It may be time to finally work out what the blazes we're going to do with Kyouko.

Everything else is starting to come together. Kyouko remains un-anything-bombed. Maybe we've metabombed her?
 
It may be time to finally work out what the blazes we're going to do with Kyouko.

Everything else is starting to come together. Kyouko remains un-anything-bombed. Maybe we've metabombed her?
If we can avoid a repeat of the original metabomb fiasco, then yeah. She deserves to know.

It just a question of how.
 
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I didn't mean comparing Gretchen to Walpurgisnacht. I meant comparing Walpurgisnacht across loops.
If Walpurgisnacht was at the cap for determining strength, we wouldn't be able to tell that something was stronger than her, whether that thing was a different witch or the same one from later timelines. Durability, sure, but area, thoroughness, and speed of devastation are also measures of power and none of them ever seem to increase.
 
There's more than the metabomb to worry about, with Kyouko. Or perhaps topics that are opened for talking if we metabomb her.

Yuma has grandparents. Yuma has abandonement issues and internalized guilt.

She could live in an actual house with actual adults who'd care about her if they were aware of her situation, if she told them, but she's afraid of 'being bad' and of being abandoned due to 'being bad', so she won't ask for help.

Yuma's 'mother' burned cigarettes on her scalp whenever she cried.

So while Yuma's better off with Kyouko than with her 'mother', she's still basically living on the streets, even if she gets to sleep in a nice bed because Kyouko has no problem breaking into hotels.

Are we in the right if we stay silent about all this? :/
 
In the future in which we somehow have a Pokemon Crossover and everyone turns into pokemons for a day, Kirika shall be the Squirtle.
an Eevee would be perfect for Mami. [...] A Diancie for Madoka, of course. And... A Vaporeon for Sayaka. You're not sure what Homura should have. Dialga, perhaps, or was it Palkia?
While it was about pokemon as pets, not transformations, we already have a few matches.
  • Mami: Eevee
  • Madoka: Diancie
  • Sayaka: Vaporeon (with move mimic)
  • Homura: Dialga
  • Sabrina: Shaymin
  • Kirika: Squirtle? Gallade?
  • Oriko: Absol? Espeon? Gardevoir?
Somewhere out there, there's a meguca whose wish magic allows them to make pokémon companions for MG's. We just have to find her!


Also, from the same update:
"Hmm..." you hum thoughtfully. "Is there an amusement park in town we could go to? Maybe bring Nagisa along?" You pause on the thought - Nagisa. Hopefully Kyuubey hasn't called on her, though you did remind her to let you know if it did, so.

"There is!" Madoka says, brightening. "I haven't been there in a while."
We totally forgot about that, didn't we?



"Usual immunities? Us and your friends? What about the shrimp?" Kirika asks.
Since Kirika already mentioned it, can we please verify whether she can exclude e.g. Homura's timestop from her antimagic blasts? If not, we might have to work around that.

Random snatches from around the world, I suspect, and nothing I can direct.
If Oriko's clairvoyance is currently undirected, enchantments may be able to fix that. Be it a scrying focus or jewellery on whose wearer she can lock on.

"... do you have manacles I could use?" Kirika says. "I dunno what you think of us, but we don't."
We can Grief-forge anything, though we mostly work with gold. Manacles are far harder to get out of, so could we please forge them and have them enchanted?

@Onmur: Would you add these three to your vote?
[] Ask Kirika whether she can exclude someone from anti-magic blasts as well.
[] Use Grief to forge manacles from steel, have them enchanted.
[] Suggest enchantments: scrying focus or jewellery on whose wearer Oriko can lock on

[X] Onmur
 
While it was about pokemon as pets, not transformations, we already have a few matches.
  • Mami: Eevee
  • Madoka: Diancie
  • Sayaka: Vaporeon (with move mimic)
  • Homura: Dialga
  • Sabrina: Shaymin
  • Kirika: Squirtle? Gallade?
  • Oriko: Absol? Espeon? Gardevoir?
Somewhere out there, there's a meguca whose wish magic allows them to make pokémon companions for MG's. We just have to find her!


Also, from the same update:

We totally forgot about that, didn't we?




Since Kirika already mentioned it, can we please verify whether she can exclude e.g. Homura's timestop from her antimagic blasts? If not, we might have to work around that.


If Oriko's clairvoyance is currently undirected, enchantments may be able to fix that. Be it a scrying focus or jewellery on whose wearer she can lock on.


We can Grief-forge anything, though we mostly work with gold. Manacles are far harder to get out of, so could we please forge them and have them enchanted?

@Onmur: Would you add these three to your vote?
[] Ask Kirika whether she can exclude someone from anti-magic blasts as well.
[] Use Grief to forge manacles from steel, have them enchanted.
[] Suggest enchantments: scrying focus or jewellery on whose wearer Oriko can lock on

[X] Onmur
Kirika can indeed select who her AM blasts affect, so no problem there.

I assumed making the manacles would be an automatic action with the voteline (and that there might be jokes about O&K and manacles :facepalm: ), but now Kirika's about done enchanting the chains, so it's kind of late for that. Maybe we could test whether we could reshape the already enchanted chains, or just ask Kirika to enchant some actual manacles we'll make some other time.

Or maybe just ask Firn to retcon that. There's a constant struggle between lowering the word count (assuming Firn will automate certain actions) and being clear (and making votewalls). If I had thought we needed to clarify we'd be making the manacles, I would have asked that be included in the vote.

I mean, it's kind of dumb walking away with enchanted chains instead of manacles because of something like this? I guess the chains could be useful enough, so maybe it doesn't matter?

I'm gonna go full wordage of now and worry about conciseness later.

[X] Show curiosity about those 'random snatches', maybe they're hints you can puzzle out together?
-[X] Theorize about what the scrying might be meant for. To watch over Kirika? And others she cares about?
[X] Let Oriko know what you see in her Soul Gem.
[X] Be happy that she's doing better. It's great if she gets new superpowers, but more important that she's doing better.

[X] Ask Oriko if she's thought about 'Feathers': it's behavior, where (in and outside Mitakihara?) and when (is it triggered by certain kind of events? Despair, tragedy?) it acts, what are its direct actions, the seemingly intended consequences of those actions and the actual consequences of them (did Feathers want Sayaka dead to Elsa Maria, or did they want Sayaka contracted, which was the final consequence of that?)...

[X] Double down on FRIENDSHIP.
-[X] Hugs.
-[X] Tell O&K (specially Oriko) they're Good people. They don't need to save the world or risk their lives to prove it to anyone.
-[X] Promise them a gift once they move to the new place.

[X] Thank Kirika.
-[X] You seem to have forgot you could've made the manacles out of the chains. Oops? Maybe tou can reshape them without breaking the enchantment? Or you'll bring some actual manacles next time?
-[X] Maybe just retcon it so we already did


[X] Pass the time until Yuki/Kyouko might be awake.
-[X] Feed Aurora happy magic.
-[X] Optional: Inquire about Oriko's newly developing shitposting powers. Congratulate them on her progress so far.
-[X] Optional: Talk about your respective dates.

[X] Yuki.
-[X] Arrange a visit later today: You need to talk with Anri; somehow get therapists involved stat, and share contact information for meguca Befriending.

[X] Kyouko.
-[X] Meet up for brunch. You need to talk.
 
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Kirika can indeed select who her AM blasts affect, so no problem there.

I assumed making the manacles would be an automatic action with the voteline (and that there might be jokes about O&K and manacles :facepalm: ), but now Kirika's about done enchanting the chains, so it's kind of late for that. Maybe we could test whether we could reshape the already enchanted chains, or just ask Kirika to enchant some actual manacles we'll make some other time.

Or maybe just ask Firn to retcon that. There's a constant struggle between lowering the word count (assuming Firn will automate certain actions) and being clear (and making votewalls). If I had thought we needed to clarify we'd be making the manacles, I would have asked that be included in the vote.

I mean, it's kind of dumb walking away with enchanted chains instead of manacles because of something like this? I guess the chains could be useful enough, so maybe it doesn't matter?

I'm gonna go full wordage of now and worry about conciseness later.

[X] Show curiosity about those 'random snatches', maybe they're hints you can puzzle out together?
-[X] Theorize about what the scrying might be meant for. To watch over Kirika? And others she cares about?
[X] Let Oriko know what you see in her Soul Gem.
[X] Be happy that she's doing better. It's great if she gets new superpowers, but more important that she's doing better.

[X] Double down on FRIENDSHIP.
-[X] Hugs.
-[X] Tell O&K (specially Oriko) they're Good people. They don't need to save the world or risk their lives to prove it to anyone.
-[X] Promise them a gift once they move to the new place.

[X] Thank Kirika.
-[X] You seem to have forgot you could've made the manacles out of the chains. Oops? Maybe tou can reshape them without breaking the enchantment? Or you'll bring some actual manacles next time?
-[X] Maybe just retcon it so we already did


[X] Pass the time until Yuki/Kyouko might be awake.
-[X] Feed Aurora happy magic.
-[X] Optional: Inquire about Oriko's newly developing shitposting powers. Congratulate them on her progress so far.
-[X] Optional: Talk about your respective dates.

[X] Yuki.
-[X] Arrange a visit later today: You need to talk with Anri; somehow get therapists involved stat, and share contact information for meguca Befriending.

[X] Kyouko.
-[X] Meet up for brunch. You need to talk.
A bit short on time at the moment, but I'll reiterate that I think we need to ask Oriko if she can give us any pointers on Feathers. She may not be able to view it directly, but its behavior, such as whether it's just limited to Mitakihara or not, could be telling in its own right.

- [] Ask Oriko if she's remembers anything about how the Feathers tended to behave, such having whether it took any actions outside Mitakihara, and if it tends to act in response to certain kinds of events (during or after tragedies, for instance)
 
A bit short on time at the moment, but I'll reiterate that I think we need to ask Oriko if she can give us any pointers on Feathers. She may not be able to view it directly, but its behavior, such as whether it's just limited to Mitakihara or not, could be telling in its own right.

- [] Ask Oriko if she's remembers anything about how the Feathers tended to behave, such having whether it took any actions outside Mitakihara, and if it tends to act in response to certain kinds of events (during or after tragedies, for instance)
Added... in a super wordy fashion, so as to not leave things out, hopefully.

Conciseness? Noi!

Clearly we get Yuma's grandparents to adopt Kyoko : p
It's OK to shoot for the moon, but we don't actually want to hit the stars. :V

As if that phrase made any sense.
 
One thing that's small but I kinda wanted to do. Can we finally fix Oriko's bush? It's still alive and trying to grow new roots from it's uprooted position. I kinda feel bad for it now.
 
To be honest, I think Oriko prefers it as it is, out of hatred for Hisaomi if nothing else.

"My father loved these rosebushes." Oriko's quiet voice, accompanied by footsteps rustling over grass. The seer walks forward, footsteps dainty on the grass, looking as impeccably unruffled as always despite her missing arm.

"Mmm," you say, looking at the ruined bushes.

"They look better this way," Oriko says, turning to head back into the house, Kirika immediately untransforming and bouncing along in her wake. "Do come in."

I wouldn't rule out that she could've had a change of heart regarding the roses, though...wouldn't O&K fix it they wanted it fixed?
You maintain your smile, gently pulling her over to the table that Oriko has in the garden. You eye the rosebushes, particularly the one you'd uprooted - apparently neither Kirika nor Oriko care enough to move it anywhere else, so there it remains to rot. You briefly consider covering the hole back up, at least.

Eh, maybe later.
 
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