Oriko does seem to be getting pretty good at alienating people she comes across. At least they don't simply hate her because of her dad though, so... progress?:V
 
Yes, you are. You're saying that Hitomi should have believed it was impossible for us to do that based on what she knew f us. Except it isn't impossible at all.
There's nothing wrong with expecting your friends to not immediately assume the absolute worst of you without actually investigating their worries. If that's entitlement, then I'll gladly let you label me as an 'entitled person'.

Please don't try to put words in my mouth. I never said nor implied she should always accept Sabrina at her word, or that Hitomi should worship us like an infallible God.
My position was and still is that Sabrina has spent enough time with Hitomi that she deserves more consideration than she received.
I think we're done here. There's no point in continuing this discussion if you're not willing to engage me and not this strawman you've constructed.
 
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Good thing that wasn't at all what I was saying, isn't it?

It's what you implied. You're taking offense at the idea that it's possible or Sabrina and a serial killer to have behaviour in common.

EDIT:^Okay! I see your problem now! Fair enough. However, what we said sounded lie a confession to her. Why do you need to investigate more if the person has already admitted that your fears are true?
 
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Sometimes it feels people are feeling other people are implying things they don't think they're implying, but somehow get microscope'd into accidentally implying things anyways.
Maybe try to not look for subtext? I don't think we purposely put in double meanings or subtext or whatever.

I dunno, I failed social in life.
 
Copied from Onmur's

[X] Say your goodbyes to Oriko and Kirika and check everybody's Gems (except Hitomi's :V)
[X] Offer your flight services. Sayaka might want to be alone, but Hitomi might want a ride.
-[X] Once outside, tell Sayaka you want to talk later. Just to talk... and if she wants, you can give more context for Oriko.
[X] Before going, check in on Homura. Reassure her if necessary and thank her for watching over us.
-[X] At least one little voice in our head considered bringing the Obrez into the meeting, so really, thanks.
-[X] Tell her she's like a Guardian Angel... with a sniper rifle! That's cool! Every Guardian Angel should have a sniper rifle.

Even the joke bits.
 
How dare you.
Oh well, that's OK.

Yes but who in their right mind would compare to Sabraina being a normal person?
I mean by that logic Hitomi could easily be a serial killer......
We are sure that she isn't right?
Against, she's a Yakuza princess, not a filthy serial killer.

She's got people for that.
 
[X] Say your goodbyes to Oriko and Kirika and check everybody's Gems (except Hitomi's :V)
[X] Offer your flight services. Sayaka might want to be alone, but Hitomi might want a ride.
-[X] Once outside, tell Sayaka you want to talk later. Just to talk... and if she wants, you can give more context for Oriko.
[X] Before going, check in on Homura. Reassure her if necessary and thank her for watching over us.
-[X] At least one little voice in our head considered bringing the Obrez into the meeting, so really, thanks.
-[X] Tell her she's like a Guardian Angel... with a sniper rifle! That's cool! Every Guardian Angel should have a sniper rifle.
I approve of your gumption.


[X] Say your goodbyes to Oriko and Kirika and check everybody's Gems (except Hitomi's :V)
[X] Offer your flight services. Sayaka might want to be alone, but Hitomi might want a ride.
-[X] Once outside, tell Sayaka you want to talk later. Just to talk... and if she wants, you can give more context for Oriko.
[X] Before going, check in on Homura. Reassure her if necessary and thank her for watching over us.
-[X] At least one little voice in our head considered bringing the Obrez into the meeting, so really, thanks.
-[X] Tell her she's like a Guardian Angel... with a sniper rifle! That's cool! Every Guardian Angel should have a sniper rifle.
 
Stop: Ugolino, Again
ugolino, again @Ugolino was threadbanned from this thread for being a persistent problem. The purpose of this was to keep him from getting into arguments, harassing people, and generally being a pest to other users in the thread.

He instead took it to profile posts and PMs, including harassing people about votes in the quest on their profile pages. This went on for months before someone reported one of his posts to the staff.

That is not a good thing. He's eaten a tempban for harassment on profile pages, if he does it again when he gets back, please report the relevant posts or PMs.
 
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BTW, tell Kirika about the Chibis and tell her to practice making a Chibi of herself so she can get GIANTORIKOHUGS.
 
[] Hitomi, you're more right than you know.
[] Oriko, what did I tell you about attempting suicide by good guy and "Redemption Equals Death" being a dumb fairy-tale thing?

Sorta joke but not really.
 
I know. Mami makes things out of ribbons.

Well, what can Kirika straight up create with magic besides her claws?

... Eyepatches!

If Mami can make Chibis out of ribbons, surely Kirika, properly motivated by the idea of GiantOrikoHugs, can learn to make Chibis out of eyepatches.
 
I know. Mami makes things out of ribbons.

Well, what can Kirika straight up create with magic besides her claws?

... Eyepatches!

If Mami can make Chibis out of ribbons, surely Kirika, properly motivated by the idea of GiantOrikoHugs, can learn to make Chibis out of eyepatches.
A low effort eyepatch isn't that far from being a ribbon anyways.
 
Thought. Biggest issue with social in RPs is the lack of contextual clues to the medium. I propose we stick around to ask Oriko about her trying to scapegoat herself and ask Mami via telepathy her thoughts on the matter. As well as talking to Mami on how it went to allow the GM to give us more social context clues via IC means. (and thus through IC biases)

Also...Leaving without commenting on something Mami AND Sabrina noticed like that would be a poor decision I think given the effort we (and thus Sabrina) puts into keeping Oriko from making her visions self realizing. Also Sayaka and Hitomi asked to see THEMSELVES out... offering them a ride may be a social faux pas.

so rough vote, lines are to imply tone rather then direct quotes. I hate having direct quotes in votes.

[X] Plan Second Opinion
[X] Offer Sayaka a cleanse before she goes via telepathy, tell her your free to talk if and when she wants to. It's been a lot to absorb though for now though so wish her a good day/evening and safe travels.
[X] Tell Hitomi that it's fine... she was working on incomplete information and extend that you are always open for further discussions, also wish her a good day/evening. Perhaps ask if she needs a cab or some other way home?
[X] Ask Oriko if she has any more tea, as a means to politely get her out of the room.
-[X] Maybe Kirika could go help Oriko with the tea wink wink
--[X] Otherwise ask Kirika if she could give of a moment with Mami
-[X] Quietly talk with Mami Mami and ask her thoughts on the meeting
--[X] Discuss the meeting and everyone's reactions (IE Mami's thought on Sayaka breaking the table)
-[X] Bring up the scapegoating and focus on possible whys, and possible goals.
[X] Talk to Oriko about her handling of the meeting after she serves the tea, namely trying to make herself into a scapegoat.
-[X]Also thank Kirika for not dismembering anyone.
-[X] We get it, you likely have some concept of the 'greater good' telling you why this is best - of course we know how I feel about that philosophy half the time.
-[X] Perhaps you are thinking drawing all their anger to you will make them less angry at me? That's kind of you - but if I have a difference of opinion with a friend I'm not using another friend to take the blame. So, no thanks.
 
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[x] DB_Explorer
Definitely like this idea over the other one.
Edit: Idk why I quoted, I meant to copy/paste, though I might as well just put it as DB since it'll probably get tweaked at some point.
 
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