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Uh, I said kill-on-sight. As in, if by some fucking horrible screwup we actually see her, we slag her head and if the gem is still intact afterwards then that's nice.
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Uh, I said kill-on-sight. As in, if by some fucking horrible screwup we actually see her, we slag her head and if the gem is still intact afterwards then that's nice.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Firn totally likes the idea of Chibi-Brina.I like the paintball gun idea so much, I'm including it in my vote.
[x] Squee.
-[x] Glomp both Mamis. Mami? What's the plural? Either way, so cute~.
[x] Reply to Homura.
-[x] Uh, the most adorable thing ever is happening right now. Talk in a minute or so.
[x] Ask Mami all the questions.
-[x] Wow! Does that - can she see through it? How autonomous is it? Is she just concentrating on the outer appearance, or...? How has she done this wonderful thing?
[x] Get back to Homura.
-[x] Sorry about that. Mami showed me how she can use ribbons to make a chibi of herself and it's the cutest thing. Anyway, Sayaka not copying your power should be fine. Consider coming anyway? I'd like it if you and Sayaka got along better, and being present at her training would help with that. It's your call. And if you come relatively soonish, you could catch the tail end of me and Mami's testing.
--[x] Actually, regarding Sayakas training... how good are you with paintball guns? Some ranged combat experience might be helpful for her...
[x] You'll use Mami's name. It is your first laser, so 'First Light' is quite fitting.
-[x] The whole thing needs work before it's ready for prime time also. Shielding issues, dialing in a proper yield, thermal bloom... really, the setup for the attack was more like getting ready to set off a bomb rather than unleashing a directed energy weapon.
-[x] Heh. Maybe 'Finale' should be an attack that can combine with Tiro Finale. Combination attacks would be so cool.
[x] Wait for Homura to get back on attending/not attending before doing 'Good Morning Mitakihara'. You don't want to put her on the spot.
If the prospect of getting to shoot Sayaka with paintball guns doesn't get Homura to show up for her training, nothing will.
We should make a Chibi-Brina to play with Chibi-Mami.
Yeah, and Mami had controlled their entire fight in Rebellion. Place Homura and Mami on equal footing, and Mami likely wins hands down. Which implies interesting things in certain elements in the upcoming concept movie.
There's also something else I wanted to bring up. It's been discussed what Sabrina's role in Madoka's wish in the last timeline. But what does that mean for Feathers? I guess it's possible that it showing up now in this timeline is a coincidence, but I can't help but doubt that.
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Masterful. I concede.
[x] Squee.
-[x] Glomp both Mamis. Mami? What's the plural? Either way, so cute~.
[x] Reply to Homura.
-[x] Uh, the most adorable thing ever is happening right now. Talk in a minute or so.
[x] Ask Mami all the questions.
-[x] Wow! Does that - can she see through it? How autonomous is it? Is she just concentrating on the outer appearance, or...? How has she done this wonderful thing?
[x] Get back to Homura.
-[x] Sorry about that. Mami showed me how she can use ribbons to make a chibi of herself and it's the cutest thing. Anyway, Sayaka not copying your power should be fine. Consider coming anyway? I'd like it if you and Sayaka got along better, and being present at her training would help with that. It's your call. And if you come relatively soonish, you could catch the tail end of me and Mami's testing.
--[x] Actually, regarding Sayakas training... how good are you with paintball guns? Some ranged combat experience might be helpful for her...
[x] You'll use Mami's name. It is your first laser, so 'First Light' is quite fitting.
-[x] The whole thing needs work before it's ready for prime time also. Shielding issues, dialing in a proper yield, thermal bloom... really, the setup for the attack was more like getting ready to set off a bomb rather than unleashing a directed energy weapon.
-[x] Heh. Maybe 'Finale' should be an attack that can combine with Tiro Finale. Combination attacks would be so cool.
-[x] Should you try and make a chibi? You probably won't be able to look through it like Mami can without additional effort, but a chibi is its own reward. Consult with Mami on this.
[x] Wait for Homura to get back on attending/not attending before doing 'Good Morning Mitakihara'. You don't want to put her on the spot.
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*eyes vote*
Wtf am I even voting for at this point? Sweet lord.
Uhhhhhhhh.
I don't like the chibiBrina. I'd rather focus on Mami's side of the issue. Actually I'd rather focus focus on Mami's stuff, but we didn't exactly get the material for that this update.
We could be suggesting ribbon platforms right now, or after glomp anyways, she just told us she can't fly. We could be passing her an enhancer to look at what making a full clone would involve. We're... Making a chibi ourselves.
Yes, it's cute.
... So is Science!Mami.
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Valid criticism, but you'll note I'm not actually voting to make a chibi - just to talk about it with Mami. I'm always willing to apply additional SCIENCE to my votes, as long as it's well formulated. Throw some ideas at me - by now it should be obvious I'm not shy about cribbing stuff I like for my votes.
This is mostly a social update, though, what with discussing shizz with Homu to be on the same page before doing the 'Good Morning' routine. Even with really good science ideas, I don't expect to get to them before the update after next.
Belated reply, but tbh, the kind of person willing to lobotomize themselves so their murder plans stay on track is a pretty nasty piece of work already.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
That part's solved.
We need to help Mami with visualization. Ask what she knows about flight? Maybe make models of lots of things that fly? Planes, birds, pterodactyls, etc....
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I mean, I'm just saying, if we suggest ribbon platforms this post, we could have Mumipingpong going the same post,
and be catching her bridal style the post after that.
bird_poison
Knowing their wrath, unfettered and raw
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Helicopters. They don't require speed, only 2 rotating parts and some support. And learning how to fly the thing, but that's kinda obvious.
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If we're gonna suggest ideas to Mami about flight, our first question should be how she makes her muskets float, and if there's anything applicable there. I have a hunch that it's an 'anchor to self' issue, so she can't pick herself up with her constructs for the same reason you can't pull yourself up by your bootstraps, but science suggestions really should be based on more then hunches if we can help it.
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It's actually not the same. We see that she can toss away a musket, no? Then she should be able to create momentum by pushing material away from her. By extension if she were to create and push off of something...
It should work for the same reason that a bottle rocket does, as opposed to not working for the same reason you can't pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
[] After exhausting clone questions...
-[] Flying... Could you do some sort of platform jumping? I don't know much about magic, but it seems to me that your muskets have mass. If you could make something a big more, say, square-like in midair, do you think you could push off of it?
AuraTwilight
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I strongly suspect that regardless of what Feathers really is, it's a karmic balancing point of the universe. Because Sabrina exists, something else must oppose her.
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Without it being anchored, you aren't gonna be able to gain much upward momentum from pushing down on something in midair. Mami's good, but not Legolas physics fuckery good.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Remember Mami can make things stay still mid air.
So ribbon platforms are probably a thing for her. It just costs MP.
So ribbon platforms are probably a thing for her. It just costs MP.
bird_poison
Knowing their wrath, unfettered and raw
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So, are we Neo?
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*coughing fit*
*deletes post*
Uh yeah that
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
"Jumping off an unanchored platform" is the same physics as a rocket engine and meguca are easily enough to produce the necessary powers and forces. Say you're throwing reaction masses that mass exactly as much as you. This effectively cuts your power in half because you're putting half of it into the reaction mass and half of it into yourself. This cuts your jump height in half. This means that Mami might be making 10-meter jumps instead of 20-meter jumps, still easily enough to get somewhere given that she's not limited by tsiolkovsky.
(edit: Legolas's thing is possible, but not the way it's depicted there. He'd have to be using stones several times heavier than himself, they'd have to stay fixed until he stepped on them because legs only move so fast (same reason jet turbines sorta have a maximum speed independent of their thrust), and they'd go rocketing off downward as he came off them.)
(edit: Legolas's thing is possible, but not the way it's depicted there. He'd have to be using stones several times heavier than himself, they'd have to stay fixed until he stepped on them because legs only move so fast (same reason jet turbines sorta have a maximum speed independent of their thrust), and they'd go rocketing off downward as he came off them.)
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I like the changes - especially potential start on autonamous in-range AIs - though miffed feeling on abandoning our multi-track conversational abilities.(Though what Kaizuki says about enchantments to help Mami concentrate is more in line of what I thought of helping her.)
[x] Redshirt Army
Though thoughts on telling Homura about our slight apprehension as well? Could bond us over that.
As to non-current vote discussion...Yeah Sabrina is currently killable by almost anyone. Kagari is a nasty in potentially removing our ability to target her, but when speaking of Suzune Magica Suzune could literally kill us by walking up to us, asking our name, then punching our gem.
This is why I said I wanted to armor up our gem (and voted for it in light-testing vote initially), but perfect became the enemy of good in that discussion last time.
uh Kaizuki alarm bells going of in my head at this idea
Mostly because not everything we've been feeling is good. And that would make Mami feel badly and attempt to repress herself and distance from Sabrina - remember when she went "I tried to not call as much?" and now Sabrina goes "Yeah I'd like you be able to choose whether to do that and choose to do it, even if you can't now."
eeeeh
[x] Redshirt Army
Though thoughts on telling Homura about our slight apprehension as well? Could bond us over that.
As to non-current vote discussion...Yeah Sabrina is currently killable by almost anyone. Kagari is a nasty in potentially removing our ability to target her, but when speaking of Suzune Magica Suzune could literally kill us by walking up to us, asking our name, then punching our gem.
This is why I said I wanted to armor up our gem (and voted for it in light-testing vote initially), but perfect became the enemy of good in that discussion last time.
uh Kaizuki alarm bells going of in my head at this idea
Mostly because not everything we've been feeling is good. And that would make Mami feel badly and attempt to repress herself and distance from Sabrina - remember when she went "I tried to not call as much?" and now Sabrina goes "Yeah I'd like you be able to choose whether to do that and choose to do it, even if you can't now."
eeeeh
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I was kinda assuming she can't do that casually. Like, how many of her own body masses of ribbons can she actually make per second, and for how long? It's not really practical for flight.
Forgot about the anchoring thing, though. That makes it massively easier.
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You completely missed the point, Lement. We're totally fine with Mami dialing us to say hello frequently. We're not totally fine with the reason for that behavior. The example you just gave is not only a bad example, it's got faulty logic.
Please realize that in the end, this is about getting Mami to understand that she doesn't have to go around throwing her deeply held beliefs at our feet and asking if they're ok.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
You know, for all the potential Sayaka's power copying seemingly's got, there's not that many powers around for her to copy, despite the amount of powerful meguca in the area.
Mami: Copied, but power not very strong without a lot of practice.
Sabrina: Can't copy due to [REDACTED].
Homura: Can't copy due to personal issues.
Kyuoko: Probably can't copy?
Oriko: HAHAHA.
Kirika: HAHAHA2.
Yuma: Canon Seyiku back online!
Mami: Copied, but power not very strong without a lot of practice.
Sabrina: Can't copy due to [REDACTED].
Homura: Can't copy due to personal issues.
Kyuoko: Probably can't copy?
Oriko: HAHAHA.
Kirika: HAHAHA2.
Yuma: Canon Seyiku back online!
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You know, for all the potential Sayaka's power copying seemingly's got, there's not that many powers around for her to copy, despite the amount of powerful meguca in the area.
Mami: Copied, but power not very strong without a lot of practice.
Sabrina: Can't copy due to [REDACTED].
Homura: Can't copy due to personal issues.
Kyuoko: Probably can't copy?
Oriko: HAHAHA.
Kirika: HAHAHA2.
Yuma: Canon Seyiku back online!
See commentary about use of outside sources
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
You'll have to quote if there's anything relevant.
Sayaka can't keep a power forever; even with infinite Grief Cleansing, it'd be too damn unsafe for her to try and keep a power permanently. So she's limited to whichever meguca's on hand to copy, which is just Mami right now.
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But that's exactly what I said with that quote?
*looks at it again*
I derp grammer, I guess.
Better, now?
However, the point remains: There's a perilous gap between Mami understanding and feeling that she doesn't need our approval, and her hearing that Sabrina is unhappy with how's she's been.
Imagine you're Mami, and you're hearing Sabrina has been unhappy about your need to depend on her and wishing you could be better. And you want to do everything to make Sabrina not leave you, so you try your best to give the appearance of that.
And that line of thought is alarming to me.