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justinkal said:
You could make the case that Homura is a better candidate for "Who is going through similar worries about their relationship prospect?"
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"No."

"Really Homura, I've none else, please help me?"

"No. There's must better people to ask about this."

"I've already asked everyone and nobody's been able to help me..."

"I'm the bottom of the list?"

"No- well yes- well no..."

"... My answer's still no."

"Look, the only other person I can ask is Sayaka-"

*TIME STOP*

"So you and Mami. We'll figure something out."

"You're the best."
 
aeqnai said:
Though I'll admit, fucking up the thing because she kept her feelings secret is really in-character for Sabs. You could easily argue secretiveness has been her most defining character flaw thus far.
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When dealing with infohazards, secrecy is a must. But yes, we do tend to be a itty-bit paranoid about our secrecy. And our science. And our ultimate plans. But never our intent, that one is clear and loud.

TheEyes said:
Not to mention that we had to painstakingly create laser shields for ourself and our allies.
-[x] The whole thing needs work before it's ready for prime time also. Shielding issues, dialing in a proper yield, thermal bloom... really, the setup for the attack was more like getting ready to set off a bomb rather than unleashing a directed energy weapon.
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Sadly, outside our area where physics reign unchallenged all our attacks are of the "collateral damage" variety, and probably will be. Energy being energy, and all of that.

The only idea I have to solve that would be using a neutrino beam of enough density, but that would leave everything around it mildly radiactive, and penetration would be a somewhat difficult to solve issue.
 
So... let's suppose we use some Witchy stuff to affect the air within our range into not absorbing heat -or at least a tube of air, not necessarily ALL the air.

If we now shoot a laser through this 'witch enchanted' air, would that avoid thermal bloom (within range)? And would the laser still be able to travel outside our range (though heating up air outside our range)?

...

How well can we calibrate the strenght of out lasers? If we need to shoot a meguca outside our range, we would need the meguca not get turned into slag, mech less her Soul Gem. It'd be silly if after this, we end up using our rifle next time a meguca tries to snipe us.

Also, we can make fire and magnetism... maybe we could directly control heat within our range, with Grief, to not get wrecked by our own lasers?
 
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At battle speed, our best tactic is still "shred everything with grief blades".

We can create a dynamic, multi-particled shield, capable of reconfiguring to absorb, deflect or evade any sort of impact. It can also capture, cut, push, pull and otherwise alter the trajectory of any object within range.

Inside our range we are unstoppable, as long as we see the threat coming. Our ideal combat strategy will always be "storm of grief", or any derivate thereof.

Now, combat outside our range? Our only viable options are artillery, laser weaponry and closing range.

Grief can always be used for defence, and a Grief battle station should be viable (Light is light is light, multi-spectral googles should work outside range, as should telescopes). But unless our enemy is deliverately hiding, the safer alternative (for them) should always be to engage at ramming speed.

If we want to maximize our safety, a grief fortress capable of launching laser attacks can be done in a pinch, as would be more exotic battle shapes (concentrating X-ray sources on a 3D point beyond our range, via multiple collimated sources, for example)
 
bird_poison said:
Sadly, outside our area where physics reign unchallenged all our attacks are of the "collateral damage" variety, and probably will be. Energy being energy, and all of that.

The only idea I have to solve that would be using a neutrino beam of enough density, but that would leave everything around it mildly radiactive, and penetration would be a somewhat difficult to solve issue.
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Well, a Grief railgun / coilgun would have less thermal bloom and radiation issues. Hmm, I wonder if we can make eezo, Grief up a Mass Accelerator Cannon from Mass Effect.
 
Before trying anything complex, we should just try grabbing stuff with Grief and THROWING it.

:p

Who knows, maybe we don't need barrels, or electromagnetic rails, or anything like that.

[ ] Grab a piece of scrap metal.
-[ ] Fling it with Grief as (safely) fast as you can.

EDIT: Ninja'd
 
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"Safely" is the key word there. I've suspected for a while that another Bad End is to try to move some Grief "as fast as we can" and then we take off this side of the planet with an RKV.
 
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landcollector said:
Then Sabrina isn't really unstoppable if you have to add conditionals like such, "just" very powerful.
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Conditionals allow me to do that.

Onmur said:
Before trying anything complex, we should just try grabbing stuff with Grief and THROWING it.

:p

Who knows, maybe we don't need barrels, or electromagnetic rails, or anything like that.

[ ] Grab a piece of scrap metal.
-[ ] Fling it with Grief as (safely) fast as you can.
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I have a more complex yet reliable idea.

Instead of scoping random stuff and throwing, we can always grab random stuf (most likely gravel, concrete and metals), melt it, centrifugate it, shape it like a missile and THEN throw it.
The process shouldn't take more than a few seconds, and we can always distribute the mass in the tail-end of the missile, or at the middle.
 
Vebyast said:
"Safely" is the key word there. I've suspected for a while that another Bad End is to try to move some Grief "as fast as we can" and then we take off this side of the planet with an RKV.
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Well, it would be kind of boring, but we could spend an update throwing stuff at gradually increasing speeds, until we either are content with how fast we can throw, or we figure we're close to breaking something important.
 
So, if Mami gets to be able to do "remote body tech" why not us?

Yes, the 100m range limitation would make it little more than a toy, but it would be a great proof of concept for things that could be actually useful (remote sensing being a big one).

Not that I am necessarily advocating for trying it now, just at some point.
 
landcollector said:
Then Sabrina isn't really unstoppable if you have to add conditionals like such, "just" very powerful.
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Much like superman isn't totally unkillable if you can get the drop on him with a handful of kryptonite. Much like superman, Sabrina is really only "fighting" in a way that looks fair because if she decided people had to die the fight wouldn't last more than a moment or two. Literally the only person* alive right now with a chance against Sabrina is Homura, since timestop is OP in PVP.

*magical girl not associated with feathers that we know of
 
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landcollector said:
That's an assumption I'd have to disagree with.
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This. Mind control, anything with >100 m range that can gemsnipe, matter displacing teleportation, Imp style stealth... we're powerful, but sufficiently esoteric attacks from surprise can easily take us down, and with the global population as it is, assuming that Homura is the only one with the right flavour of bullshit is unwise to the extreme.
 
Gadjo said:
Much like superman isn't totally unkillable if you can get the drop on him with a handful of kryptonite. Much like superman, Sabrina is really only "fighting" in a way that looks fair because if she decided people had to die the fight wouldn't last more than a moment or two. Literally the only person* alive right now with a chance against Sabrina is Homura, since timestop is OP in PVP.

*magical girl not associated with feathers that we know of
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We can also be threatened by anyone who can pull off a sneak attack. Such as teleporters. Or invisible girls. Or illusionists. Or that precog who blew us up. Or her antimagic waifu who can just shut down our griefstorm. Or anyone with a ranged weapon who sees us before we identify them as hostile. Or anyone with a melee weapon who we don't identify as a hostile soon enough. Or Mami, who's developed fucking ribbons into guns and is currently working on wings and autonomous bodies, just in case anyone got the idea that it was easy to write off certain powersets as harmless.

People who assume their superpower makes them invincible tend to find themselves coughing up blood around the words "This cannot be!"
 
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Let's not get over confident.
If Hollywood movies have taught us anything, it's that overconfidence comes before you step on a multicolour ball and knock yourself out.
 
It depends on how forewarned Sabrina is. For example, if you told us that there's a magical girl after us and named her and described her appearance, it'd probably take us a matter of minutes to get into space and grief up a scanning array that'd find her in a couple hours anywhere on earth. A complete surprise attack, on the other hand, I'm pretty sure that Mami could snipe Sabrina. It's all about information.

Speaking of that, now that we know we can reach out further than 100m, could we please get some scanners? Like, just a millimeter-wave radar that can identify people at range and through small obstructions.
 
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