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[X] I don't know. Nothing like this happened the first time, but I figured I wouldn't make anymore Barriers. If the Barrier did somehow cause this... I don't know how that could happen, but I won't to risk a repeat. Also, Kyuubey showed way too much interestest on the first one.
[X] About the feather itself... It doesn't feel like my constructs, right? To be honest, it kind of freaks me out.

As the vote asked, we've got a new voting round since the conversation deviated from Oriko. I don't think we want to bring her up again? Even mentioning her makes Homu feel bad.

Need better phrasing...
 
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Pray SV pray to God that you will be able to social, from what I have seen you need the luck.
Edit: you're doomed, needed a 50+to suceed
Lordsservent threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Social Total: 34
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[x] It doesn't feel like my powers. At least, not to me. And I certainly never intended for any of this to happen. Does it feel like my constructs to you?
[x] It's not the first time I made the barrier. I made the same barrier the same way earlier and nothing like this happened then. That said, I don't know for sure, so I figured I wouldn't make any more Barriers until I had made sure that they're safe. It takes too long... and I don't want to risk a repeat. Also, Kyuubey showed way too much interest in the first one.
[X] I'm not even sure whatever made the feather is responsible for what happened to Sayaka. It could be someone trying to tell me something, maybe give me a warning, or it could just be an elaborate coincidence, or even intentionally placed there to sow doubt. Who knows?
[x] To be honest, it kind of freaks me out though, if only because I don't know what to expect. At least the feather itself doesn't seem to be acting oddly to me.
[x] What I do know is you are my friends. I have no intentions of hurting any of you and I wouldn't use my powers in a way that I believed was going to hurt any of you.
[x] Whatever is wrong can't be fixed until we learn more and panicking or acting rashly isn't going to help, so we should be cautious and stay alert, but wait until we know more before we decide how to deal with the problem.

Okay. How's this?
 
Figured out a way to sort of still enjoy the main thread. Stick to only the first page or so after each update, and don't diligently follow the intense debates that follow when votes start being crafted. (This means I won't be voting except under extreme circumstances as I don't want to "fire-and-forget" vote)


Anyways, remember my big post about barriers and stuff (TODO, insert link)? One of the possible triggers I listed to shelve "barrier tech" long term (rather than just mid term) was if there was strong signs it was "helping" Feathers. Well...
Given the strange whispery inivisi-text while we have had it (including during timestop!), in combination with the future changing in a way that baffled even Oriko at around the same time as the feather appearing...yea. I think that is decent evidence that Feathers can sort of "use" our barriers to help start messing with stuff.
The "zoning out during setup thing" and Kyubey attention are overcome-able (I at least I think they are), but Feathers...yea, NO! Probably want to "shelve" "barrier tech" HARD until we understand what the hell is going on with Feathers (or get strong evidence that it wasn't our barrier that helped it out after all). Unlike most of the other downsides and challenges to overcome with this "tech tree", the rewards are NOT worth it if Feathers is involved...
 
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I totally agree, until we find out what caused the feather to appear, no more messing with barriers.
 
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You know which sphere of Grief the feather's in, and you summon it over with a moment's attention, catching it in your free hand. You bring it smoothly froward, presenting it to Homura and Mami. A line splits the featureless, midnight purple surface, and it parts to reveal the Feather, long pinioned and matte black.
[http://Who is dreaming?']
Both Mami and Homura look at the Feather uncomprehendingly. A frown etches itself onto Homura's face.
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So. Who is dreaming? Sabrina? Madokami? Akuma Homura? Cthulu?

Redshirt Army said:
While grinding up and snorting the feather might bring interesting results, doing regular spectroscopy first is probably a good idea.
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We can probably also build a device to analyze the shape of the feather and see if it matches any normal birds. I doubt that it does, but we should check, just to be sure.

Muramasa said:
[] It doesn't feel like my powers. And I certainly never intended for any of this to happen.
[] It's not the first time I made the barrier. I didn't make it any differently and there weren't any feathers then.
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This part is great. It's a succinct answer to Homura's question.

[] I'm not sure whatever made the feather is even responsible for what's going on. It could be someone trying to tell me something, maybe give me a warning.
[] It could just be an elaborate coincidence, or even intentionally placed there to sow doubt.
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Some speculations about the feather. It makes sense for us to bring these up.

[] What I do know is you are my friends. I have no intentions of hurting any of you.
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It shouldn't be necessary for us to say this. Neither Madoka nor Homura is worried about our motivations, and we just explained to Homura why we don't think that the Feather is related to our power.

Sereg said:
[] It's not the first time I made the barrier. I made the same barrier the same way earlier and nothing like this happened then. That said, I don't know for sure, so I figured I wouldn't make any more Barriers until I had made sure that they're safe. It takes too long... and I don't want to risk a repeat. Also, Kyuubey showed way too much interest in the first one.
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I don't know that we should promise not to make Barriers. So far they seem to be incredibly useful. If we're going to promise not to use them "until we're sure they're safe", then we should at least come up with a way to verify their safety. We could make one now and have Homura and Mami be on the lookout for anything suspicious, perhaps?

[] To be honest, it kind of freaks me out though, if only because I don't know what to expect. At least the feather itself doesn't seem to be acting oddly to me.
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Causing us to perceive invisitext when we look at it doesn't count as odd?

[] Whatever is wrong can't be fixed until we learn more and panicking or acting rashly isn't going to help, so we should be cautious and stay alert, but wait until we know more before we decide how to deal with the problem.
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Agreed, but we should have some ideas on how to move forward in order to learn more.

techsy730 said:
One of the possible triggers I listed to shelve "barrier tech" long term (rather than just mid term) was if there was strong signs it was "helping" Feathers. Well...
Given the strange whispery inivisi-text while we have had it (including during timestop!), in combination with the future changing in a way that baffled even Oriko at around the same time as the feather appearing...yea. I think that is decent evidence that Feathers can sort of "use" our barriers to help start messing with stuff.
The "zoning out during setup thing" and Kyubey attention are overcome-able (I at least I think they are), but Feathers...yea, NO! Probably want to "shelve" "barrier tech" HARD until we understand what the hell is going on with Feathers (or get strong evidence that it wasn't our barrier that helped it out after all). Unlike most of the other downsides and challenges to overcome with this "tech tree", the rewards are NOT worth it if Feathers is involved...
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The invisi-text is evidence that the Feather has weird powers. It is not evidence of anything related to our Barriers.

One experiment that we could do to figure out the relationship between the Feather and our Barrier is to create one, stick a couple rocks in it, then collapse it. If the rocks get kicked out, then it's evidence that the Feather might have been in the barrier (e.g. dropped by "Feathers") rather than created by the Barrier itself.
 
boonerunner said:
We've already put it in a ball of grief to no ill effect. What exactly are you expecting to go wrong if we create a witchy device just to look at it?
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A ball of non-witchy grief. That's pretty much inert.

I expect it to be better protected than Grief Seeds. It seemingly can act as it is. Considering where it came out from, I'd much rather not cause an interaction between the Feather and Witchy stuff.
 
[] I don't know. Nothing like this happened the first time, but I figured I wouldn't make anymore Barriers. It takes too long... and I don't want to risk a repeat. Also, Kyuubey showed way too much interest in the first one.
[] About the feather itself... It doesn't feel like my constructs, right? To be honest, it kind of freaks me out.

Voting this for now in case I can't later, but we can definitely do better.

As for who is dreaming...that has very strong post-Rebellion implications. As in, in canon it's a direct reference to amnesiac Madoka in Homulucifer's world.
 
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Maybe we could try this !!SCIENCE!! But that can wait until we fix our issues with hormura.
 
boonerunner said:
It shouldn't be necessary for us to say this. Neither Madoka nor Homura is worried about our motivations, and we just explained to Homura why we don't think that the Feather is related to our power.
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Homura's reaction was worrying. I do want to reassure her that we're on her side and that we're not going to risk anyone.


I don't know that we should promise not to make Barriers. So far they seem to be incredibly useful. If we're going to promise not to use them "until we're sure they're safe", then we should at least come up with a way to verify their safety. We could make one now and have Homura and Mami be on the lookout for anything suspicious, perhaps?
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I certainly don't want to make barriers without checking their safety, so I'm happy to promise that. Having our friends as spotters is a possibility, but currently a bad time.


Causing us to perceive invisitext when we look at it doesn't count as odd?
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I didn't think of that (are we even sure that's the feather), but maybe I can reword.


Agreed, but we should have some ideas on how to move forward in order to learn more.
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True, but that's less immediate a concern.


[x] It doesn't feel like my powers. At least, not to me. And I certainly never intended for any of this to happen. Does it feel like my constructs to you?
[x] It's not the first time I made the barrier. I made the same barrier the same way earlier and nothing like this happened then. That said, I don't know for sure, so I figured I wouldn't make any more Barriers until I had made sure that they're safe. It takes too long... and I don't want to risk a repeat. Also, Kyuubey showed way too much interest in the first one.
[X] I'm not even sure whatever made the feather is responsible for what happened to Sayaka. It could be someone trying to tell me something, maybe give me a warning, or it could just be an elaborate coincidence, or even intentionally placed there to sow doubt. Who knows?
[x] To be honest, it kind of freaks me out though, if only because I don't know what to expect. At least the feather itself doesn't seem to be attacking us or anything like that.
[x] What I do know is you are my friends. I have no intentions of hurting any of you and I wouldn't use my powers in a way that I believed was going to hurt any of you.
[x] Whatever is wrong can't be fixed until we learn more and panicking or acting rashly isn't going to help, so we should be cautious and stay alert, but wait until we know more before we decide how to deal with the problem.
 
Barriers taking too long to make is irrelevant. I get the intent but saying we're not making barriers because it's impractical is just flat out untrue.
 
Muramasa said:
Barriers taking too long to make is irrelevant. I get the intent but saying we're not making barriers because it's impractical is just flat out untrue.
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Uh Muramasa, I do not want to make more barriers, maybe this could result in more feathers, or wose feathers showing up in person to try and kill her targets. Still probably exaggerated, but let's not play with lava here.
 
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