In short, you want to try and get grief to passively mimic a specific kind of magic without further input from us...with that being something we have no precedent for.

...Well, I guess trying to enchant a grief object would be less likely to make it explode than, say, rocks or teacups...
We can't have a precedent until we try. Also, there is precedent for the idea that Grief just does whatever the hell we want it to. Really strong precedent. Fire ignoring water and air, density shifting kinds of precedent.
 
Edit: holy shit I just had an idea. @Muramasa we should try to will grief to become a grief seed- make a grief seed (the container, not the contained grief) out of grief. If we can get the concept right, it should work, and if not it's valuable research information.

It's the witch core that's pulling at the grief though. The core itself isn't grief (even though it's producing grief). We would need to find out how to imitate the effect. And we'd also need to find a way to defeat the 100m range limit.
 
Waaaaaaait. What if we follow SWB's comment. There is no such thing as hope, only 'grief'. What if the glowing egg of the soul gem is literally witchified grief? And using magic causes it to revert to a natural/unprocessed/dormant state?

We know that when grief enters a grief seed, we lose our sense of its grief-ness. If we take it as the grief seed being just a reconfigured soul gem, then both the glowy stuff and the dark stuff are just masked from our senses. The glowy stuff is raw, unprocessed, "you can do the same thing a witch barrier does, but from a distance so that you don't feel the witchiness of it".

Since we do take the 'used' grief out of the soul gem, the soul gem necessarily has to replenish the glowy stuff.

So, like Yumi's gravity. We can almost certainly make grief that has that same effect. However, can we make grief that has the potential to have that effect, in a way that can be channeled by another individual?

This is actually a bit of an extension of the healing ring idea. Can we create grief that has the 'idea' of a certain type of magic contained within it? Healing powers, gravity powers, etc. And then concentrate it into a visibly active form. After that, it's just a matter of placing it inside a container that seals the witchiness away from normal senses.

This idea still has a few flaws, but I think it has potential.
 
In short, you want to try and get grief to passively mimic a specific kind of magic without further input from us...with that being something we have no precedent for.

...Well, I guess trying to enchant a grief object would be less likely to make it explode than, say, rocks or teacups...

"I wish to control grief! My own! That of others! The grief of the Witches! All of it!"
Here presented: all the precedent we need to at least try.
 
I like how @Firnagzen can toss the most prominent hints and shoutouts--the latter of which is his personal thing--every other update, then totally make the thread ignore them under the stampede of SCIENCE!

It's truely awe-inspiring :V
 
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Well explain what we're missing then, yeah? Share you wisdom with us ignorant mad-dudes.
Can't do that, I'm afraid - I'm not talking about Grief Science, though it is covered by what I said. I'll let everyone else figure it out.

also I may or may not know a lot of things due to being good friends with the QM but that's neither here nor there, and they are quite easy to figure out if you really step back and give it a go :V
 
I like how @Firnagzen can toss the most prominent hints and shoutouts--the latter of which is his personal thing--every other update, then totally make the thread ignore them under the stampede of SCIENCE!

It's truely awe-inspiring :V
Just looked through the update again, I really don't see anything besides SCIENCE and Mumi being Mumi.
 
The conversion between Grief and Witch matter?


...Why does transmuted stuff feel more Witchy than actual unrefined Grief? Just because it's the stuff of Barriers?
 
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@Rook Oh, that might be a little bit unfair then, I guess.

@Sayaka Holy crap there are a lot of those cards and they're all so damned adorable.

Seriously, look at this!
 
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I can tell you this, at least; if you broke down every other update starting from the OP, just a bit? You would be able to figure out almost everything about PMAS. You don't even need to do it that much - high school level, if that.

Although, speaking as someone who writes with the QM a lot, I can say there will be esoteric and very subtle shoutouts to everything and their shite spin-offs.
 
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