Umi-san
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The snail shells are unavailable to the Metal Miners, and kind of requires a fair bit of work because you have to extract the snail. After that, it's ~ kind of difficult as grinding flour, though it requires a different process.
Stone is even harder to grind, but can be ground through the same process.
IIRC it was the blackbirds going into camps and failing, then a big battle all as one where the shamans messed up and we charged in and penetrated their lines. Being bad at martial doesn't mean you're an idiot, it just means you're uninventive with tactics. Even people who suck at tactics can still remember and describe what occurred, as far as I can think. But being separated from the rest of our army would reduce what he could see, as well as force our troop to overextend. Idk if this actually matters as far as a description of our warriors prowess goes, AN's note that we suck in any case other than a defensive one is more convincing, as is veekie's whole +4 expand - 3 calvalry - 1 blackbirds. Though our cavalry is prolly larger than the -3 would make it appear considering how many nomads we've been taking in.
Carts: The DP don't really fight wars, they do occasional raids. But since they're likely to deal with far, far more raids than our warriors and are doing them from an offensive rather than defensive stance, it's likely that they're more experienced, yes.
They might have made tons more pastures, but it hasn't been many turns and some of that period would be spent figuring out that they need leather. I was mostly bringing up the land thing because switching to cattle means that you're getting less food out of the land per acre, though at the same time it requires less work. It's also notable because cattle area easier to raid and harder to grow in hills, which would moderately decentivize them to attack the HK. Though obviously they still will.
So basically none of this matters beyond affecting how they operate and leading to them relying more on cattle, which are easier to raid than grain. Oh, and also cattle and grazing leads to desertification unless you range a limited amount over a wide range of land. And since the DP are *not* nomadic, that's unlikely to occur.
Massed Warfare: *shrug* they're a lot better at it but we apparently used it during the big fight with the TH. Again, that got messed up cus our poor-martial leader ran ahead.
Prowess: Our warriors are full-time warriors as far as we're aware. They're semi-hereditary specialists, which means some of them come from families that are warriors and thus don't have farms to help on. Furthermore, our farmers are specialist farmers. Basically, the point that I'm making is that we've moved away from a militia-style approach to warfare and toward a specialist, class-style approach, which means that our warriors can and do spend most of their time training (and gambling, doing sports, etc.).
Armanents: Actually, we now have copper knives and axes, at least. We might have copper swords and spear heads as well, but idr. Which means that we have tools and also things that can be used as weapons, and likely can be reshaped *by us* into weapons, because copper is reshapable that way. We can probably reach copper before the DP attacking us if we do Survey Lands and take advantage of it quickly, as well as send a trade mission to the metal miners - assuming the permanent trade route goes only to their neighbors, that is. I say this because the DP is likely to deal with the HK prior to attacking us, though this ties into Info Ass.
I.A.: Maybe they have but we don't know. Torching a settlement would be difficult, as people constantly note, because we apparently still use mud bricks for our houses and probably will have a wall around the lower valley settlement if we don't make a lowland settlement that gets attacked instead. I.A. matters because surprise raids from the rear and/or shooting people from trees is an effective attack even from an outnumbered force - which is why bandits and guerrilla fighters do well, and why ambush is constantly a recommended military tactic for any group that isn't doing formal European-style arranged war.
Honestly, though, a trade mission to the HK is the best thing we can do because it will let us figure out what the DP is actually doing rn, and thus whether we urgently need to improve our military NOW or can do it piecemeal while improving our tech, first.
why would that matter? It doesn't go to the lowlands.
As mentioned above, the other thing a trade mission to the HK will give us is information.
It depends on if the HK is strong enough to last more than 1-2 turns or not. If they're already losing, we're fucked. If they're not, they'll last for more than 1-2 turns extra and will instead create a constant pressure on the DP. Which might not prevent us from being attacked but will at least provide us with an ally so that our attacks will be likely to achieve something more than maintaining our boundaries. I feel that the advantage they'd present in providing their own actions to combat the DP makes up for the actions we'd spend making up for the Econ. Assuming that the Trade Mission makes the HK last 1-2 turns more, that's still 1-2 turns of secondary-level War Missions that we can assume they're spending. They're likely to *actually* be spending Main actions toward the end, but since their population is lower it balances out. So, in a semantic-y way, we'll still end up with the same number of spent actions.
I don't get why you're against semantics, especially since they were used to correct your misunderstanding. Anyways, since you'll acquiesce on Economics and ask AN, I'll acquiesce to the nomads and ask AN. @Academia Nut Will a stronger military decrease the likelihood that the nomads will raid our northern settlements? Also, how much did the trade mission to the Metal Miners cost and why? And finally, is this a standard price for Trade Missions?
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