ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Wait, that's possible?
And would it be compatible with Gilded Age stability loss?
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
And would it be compatible with Gilded Age stability loss?
- Location
- Illinois
Not nearly enough to invite them to the games though.
And keep in mind Trelli died and all trade was cut off for a lifetime. Any ties the traders had likely died during the plague.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Normally I'd say not, but...gilded age bonus.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I thought that a Gilded Age is sort of like the roaring 20. Huge wealth being spent in a irresponsible and unsustainable way. Having a large amount of babies can be part of that.
- Location
- Illinois
Gilded age bonuses are not infinte. They stimulate things that are already there.
What ties we have left to the Khem are likely not only fragile, but only at low levels of their government.
We also have WoAN that the Khem had retreated into their core for now. There is no reason for either our people or the Khem to make the investment for a games invite.
If we can get a Diplomat Hero, I'd actually see if we can use him to stabilize our subordinate situation and/or diplomance the Harmurri even harder.
Up to and including diplo-annexation to get that sweet, sweet ocean access.
Going to the Khemetri seems a bit like a waste to me. Lets first shore up everything closer to home. And handle that no doubt epic fallout from the levies.
Up to and including diplo-annexation to get that sweet, sweet ocean access.
Going to the Khemetri seems a bit like a waste to me. Lets first shore up everything closer to home. And handle that no doubt epic fallout from the levies.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
We always want admin heros.
- Location
- Illinois
It's actually based on the idea of having a ton of wealth without any of the foundations needed to support it. Below 3 stability but max wealth means that people feel there are unaddressed issues, but they also see that people are making a ton of money.
The age is thus 'gilded'. It looks shiny, like a golden age, if you don't examine it too closely, but just below the surface are flaws that are covered up by the wealth.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
The Harmurri are pretty distant from us for administration purposes, even I'd we have river access. It seems definitely the kind of thing that would need to be voluntary on their part.
So, what are people's guesses for our golden age bonuses?
-Megaproject track (legacy)
-Materials Technology (legacy)
-Heroes/Geniuses
-Culture/Trade/Theology Tech
Diplomacy
-Mutual defensive pact with Storm Ymaryn/Free Hills?
-Vassalize Harmurri?
Mysticism
-Upgrade Spiritual Value/Modify Purity
-Unlock Philosopher Kings
-New Spiritual Value Slot?
-More religious trait slots?
-Upgrade/replace religious trait?
Culture
-Upgrade Social Value
-New Social Value Slot?
-Influence subordinates?
-Influence neighbors?
-Megaproject track (legacy)
-Materials Technology (legacy)
-Heroes/Geniuses
-Culture/Trade/Theology Tech
Diplomacy
-Mutual defensive pact with Storm Ymaryn/Free Hills?
-Vassalize Harmurri?
Mysticism
-Upgrade Spiritual Value/Modify Purity
-Unlock Philosopher Kings
-New Spiritual Value Slot?
-More religious trait slots?
-Upgrade/replace religious trait?
Culture
-Upgrade Social Value
-New Social Value Slot?
-Influence subordinates?
-Influence neighbors?
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Horologer
Incertae sedis
- Location
- a risen sea
We have no idea what happened to the Khemetri, as far as I know. All we know is that they abandoned their northern colonies when the plague hit in a bid to quarantine themselves.
It might be a good idea to send a sailing mission to the Khemetri, if only so we know what happened to them.
- Location
- Illinois
AN told us that they were still around, but they'd pulled back to their core, abandoning their colonies and even some of their southern territory.
No clue if they are going to have a resurgence soon, or if they will continue to consolidate for now.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Starting the boundary passage might be very helpful.
Gilded Age. Not Golden Age.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
no, gilded ages are when theres a veneer of prosperity and stability at the top level, but underneath is growing social tension. the mechanic is named for the period of US History
Gilded Age - Wikipedia
I think you covered the main points, but here are some other possibilities:
Diplomacy:
- Intrigue Purchase (e.g. -10 Diplo, +3 Intrigue)
- Diplomacy mission to each neighbor
Mysticism:
- Mylathadysm upgrade/sidegrade
- RA Tolerance increase
- Reveal Astrology rolls for X turns
Culture:
- Improve Patrician/Guild faction relation, Drop spite quest
- Gain Lvl1 Library and Lvl1 Academy
On the Gilded Age, we should be falling out of it at the mid turn, as our mercenary companies should unhook from being supported from Econ and counting as part of our Military score to prevent it from massively overflowing.
As a result we'll lose six Wealth and fall out of the Gilded Age.
As a result we'll lose six Wealth and fall out of the Gilded Age.
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Why would we care about that? DoP will handle it.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
I don't think that the age will end until after we get an innovation choice, and that's post-reform, so...hard to say where wealth will be at.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
Let the Progressive Era come!
We've got spite quests because those factions are mad at "us." The spite quests are not the only way this anger is represented in setting, just the explicit one.
If the spite quest is removed without DoP, we don't have to worry about faction shenanigans to try and cost us DoP or to screw around with other factions' quests.
And there's something to be said for not having to worry about an action hijack when we're still trying to put ourselves back together in the aftermath of this war.
The actions we took in the last main turn should spend us down, so it should end by the end of the turn.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
And there's something to be said for happy factions when the new government system is about to give them a truckload of power.
(Metric truckload, if you were wondering.)
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Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Iirc @Academia Nut said that with alyx around being in red martial for another partial turn wouldn't hurt anymore than the levies already would, so the mercs are staying in for the main turn income