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Umi-san said:
Why are people so against conscription? It's more or less the fairest implementation. Otherwise, you just have a bunch of poor people paying with their lives to get a chance.
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The fact that poor people CAN pay with their lives to get a chance is hugely advantageous. Avoiding conscription means they'll be paid decently. Without competition from the more educated and wealthy they'll also have a better chance to rise in the ranks. All this spells social mobility and a greater proportion of reputable middle class as opposed to exploited lower class.

At this point in time, being a soldier is probably safer than most other jobs the poor could get anyway.
 
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So long, Memories of Spirits. You shall live on in our memories.
Thunder Horse - well, let's hope you survive. We're probably going to need to rebuild you again, aren't we?
Txolla - keep up the good work. More walls and more army please.
 
drake_azathoth said:
The fact that poor people CAN pay with their lives to get a chance is hugely advantageous. Avoiding conscription means they'll be paid decently. Without competition from the more educated and wealthy they'll also have a better chance to rise in the ranks. All this spells social mobility and a greater proportion of reputable middle class as opposed to exploited lower class.

At this point in time, being a soldier is probably safer than most other jobs the poor could get anyway.
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Yes everyone should have a wish granted in return for giving up their life. :ogles:
 
Again, we have, and are currently using, conscription.

*Sees new tag.*
"omae wa mou shinderu forhuch-kun"
Erm... how new is that and can anyone translate?
 
I don't suppose the Patricians would be amenable to supporting the Yeomen with a nomadic doom horde on the way? I mean, spite about money is great and all, but it's their sons whom are in the Sacred Orders and getting mulched first. And in the second wave with the Chariots we still have. And commanding all the other ones.
 
065tdsa said:
The real problem is running out of Tech, specially if the tech to wealth conversion lasts long.
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If there's four phases in a turn, we would spend twenty tech for twenty wealth. Keep in mind that sort of spending is pushing the guilds to the limit, forcing them to rationalize and come up with new way to increase efficiency and productivity.
 
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Kiba said:
If there's four phases in a turn, we would spend twenty tech for twenty wealth. Keep in mind that sort of spending is pushing the guilds to the limit, forcing them to rationalize and come up with new way to increase efficiency and productivity.
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It could also make them push for slavery or increased half-exiledom, especially since traders are suppressing innovation.
 
Andres110 said:
It could also make them push for slavery or increased half-exiledom, especially since traders are suppressing innovation.
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Increased half exiles wouldn't help them, since the whole point of the reform is that they have to be paid the same amount as regular workers.

They could try to advocate for slavery, but that was also already shot down by the aforementioned half exile reform.
 
Andres110 said:
It could also make them push for slavery or increased half-exiledom, especially since traders are suppressing innovation.
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They're welcome to try. We just addressed that. I don't think "okay but we really want to" is going to fly as an argument, at least not while the decision to move in the opposite direction is in living memory. I'd worry more about that sort of thing a century or two down the line.
 
Andres110 said:
It could also make them push for slavery or increased half-exiledom, especially since traders are suppressing innovation.
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I think this is unlikely, since the Urban Poor would give a fit about losing their jobs.

Moreover, this is the perfect time to be increasing the overall efficiency of production because the Urban Poor are busy training or fighting in wars.
 
Kiba said:
I think this is unlikely, since the Urban Poor would give a fit about losing their jobs.

Moreover, this is the perfect time to be increasing the overall efficiency of production because the Urban Poor are busy training or fighting in wars.
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So you're saying the Urban Poor will stop the "reforms" even while they're distracted with training or fighting?
 
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