We were already little past the point when speed was helping, so Panem actually reduced panic and let people actually spend money on things other than food, so they also could live without it.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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I think you are going to have to reprioritize, simply because we don't have the Cent room for this. We are at 8~10 Centralization as it is, and higher then where we want to be when our cities start coming back up. We should be able to do one Main Road a turn (give or take) once PSN comes back online, but in the meantime I think we should work on other low hanging fruit - lake Annexes.
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- Austria
Anti-hoarding solution to increase trust in government and stimulate spending? I guess...we got lucky with Trelli exploding there.
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- USA
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Right so I mean over the course of several turns using PSN to vent centralization, with the two Main Roads and two annexes being an unordered first phase that we take when they are otherwise reasonable and that we finish all of that before building an additional Governor's Palace.
I'd be happy to build more Annexes than that, but I don't see more as required to build an additional Palace.
Well, the idea with the policy is that it buys us a few turns while making the floor of the crisis not as bad. We definitely got lucky, but that doesn't mean that getting lucky was required for that to be a successful component of a more broad solution.
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Personally, I think we're at 1% or less to cure the disease here.
Though who knows, maybe AN has a 100 on any Study Health roll cure it. That doesn't seem like the most likely scenario to me, though.
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So, what do we think some annexes would do?
Stables: Local horses for the palace, encouraging people to have stables in their areas so a local contingent of light cavalry is more likely, a dedicated courier service.
Gardens: Better health in fresh produce for the palace (leader longevity rolls? is that what the first one did, because I don't think we saw a mechanical benefit for it), pioneering gardening and encouraging local houses to plant their own gardens, increased effectiveness of diplomacy actions as they are impressed by our gardens.
Library: National Library, beginnings of places that have their own little libraries to run things more efficiently
Grand Hall: Area in palace dedicated to receiving different kinds of visitors (Likely would be very strong with a library upgrade in addition), place to showcase various ideas to visitors.
Thoughts? I really do want more annexes.
Stables: Local horses for the palace, encouraging people to have stables in their areas so a local contingent of light cavalry is more likely, a dedicated courier service.
Gardens: Better health in fresh produce for the palace (leader longevity rolls? is that what the first one did, because I don't think we saw a mechanical benefit for it), pioneering gardening and encouraging local houses to plant their own gardens, increased effectiveness of diplomacy actions as they are impressed by our gardens.
Library: National Library, beginnings of places that have their own little libraries to run things more efficiently
Grand Hall: Area in palace dedicated to receiving different kinds of visitors (Likely would be very strong with a library upgrade in addition), place to showcase various ideas to visitors.
Thoughts? I really do want more annexes.
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- USA
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We know it would do something; the question is whether that something is what we need to do. I don't think improving our wall quality, riot resistance, or siege resistance should be our focus at this stage.
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- Panama City
....that second valleyhome canal is one that fully connects valleyhome to the river Redshore is on IIRC, not to the lowlands. The only canal to the lowlands requires dam first, no way around it.
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Point of note, the patricians rolled blood well for their new quest. They want a greatly expanded Great Hall, but are offering a government upgrade as their reward.
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- Austria
Okay, this shiny I am going for...wait, upgrade to what form?
Whelp, then Great Halls they shall have. Added bonus that this is mainly an opportunity cost in that we can only have so many annexes, but is relatively action/stat cheap.
Fair enough, I misread that.
I agree that we should build more annexes, but at this point we don't have much information on what the annexes actually do which is annoying.
Wait wat?
A government upgrade, as in improving Classical Elective Monarchy?
Good thing we have the annex slots available. There's a lot of things affected by that, should be very useful.
I think you have to be at level 2 to start gaining mechanical benefit. Anyway, a garden's primary purpose is to be a botanical garden, which help us adapt to climate changes and climate instability.
I have repeatedly pointed out that fortifications will be a godsend in protecting the grain supply and keeping government functioning during a quarantine.
Colossal walls will do the same for us during a quarantine.
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- Canada
Did you word this wrong? Because the last update just showed why all three things are vitally important to our current civ's survival.
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- Austria
Llllet's make sure it's an upgrade to government form we would want first, okay?
They rolled VERY WELL, so it's unlikely to be a trap quest.
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- Austria
They rolled well for noble quest. Which means it's something which will benefit nobles. Maybe it will benefit us too. Maybe not.
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- United States
I'm assuming a super upgraded Great Hall will make it both easier for Patricians to network with each other and for Patricians to seek audience with the King, making a sort of proto senate?
The king still decides things in the end, but most of our reaction update options come from Patricians discussing thing narratively already, so it seems like the next logical step.
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- Staring into the void
Blood well? Are we playing dominions 4?
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- Canada
Isn't it connecting the major river that feeds into Redshore to the newly made Valleyhome-Lowlands canal?