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In case anyone is curious about why I'm subjecting myself to combing through this thread again.

An attempt to document the Ymaryn rulers

  • Tribal Council
  • Unnamed Chief of Chiefs (Chief of Chiefs/Big man) - Created the Title.
  • Unnamed Chief of Chiefs (Chief of Chiefs/Big man) - Created Irrigation, Successor to the first Chief of Chiefs.
  • Unknown number of Big men.
  • Ashryn the Proud (Chief of Chiefs/Big Man) - Rival of Crow
  • Unknown Chief of Chiefs (Chief of Chiefs/Big Man) - Met and offered Friendship to the Traders, Successor to Ashryn.
  • Unknown number of Big men.
  • Cwyrl (Chief of Chiefs/Big Man) - Son of Ashryn and Myta(n).
  • Unnamed Chief of Chiefs (Chief of Chiefs/Big Man) - Successor to Cwyrl, Skilled in administration, Reigned during the Great Drought, met the Sea People.
  • Ferfthyn the Wise (Chief of Chiefs/Big Man) - (Might be the the successor to Cwyrl mentioned above) - Organized the expedition to the Sea People that Dwthwyr was part of.
  • Unknown number of Big men.
  • Unknown Chief (Chief of Chiefs/Big Man) - Reigned during the debate to merge the Three Tribes.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - (Unknown if this is the same person as the previous Chief) - Reigned during the integration of the Three Tribes, the Great Flood and the First Weather Disturbance, Created the First Holy Site.
  • Unknown number of High Chiefs.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - Created Taboo of the Dead, Met with Nishiphur of the Lowlanders Settlers.
  • Unknown number of High Chiefs.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - Reigned during the integration of the Lowland Tribe and the youth of Gwygoytha.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - Made Gwygoytha his heir.
  • Gwygoytha (High Chief) - Daughter of Dwthwyr and Zinabba, Pupil of Crow, a Roaring Flame.
  • Yhirlin/Yhirlyn (High Chief) - Son of Gwygoytha, An able leader with a stable rule.
  • Fthgoya (High Chief) - Daughter of Yhirlin/Yhirlyn, Ruled during the start of the Forest Blight Crisis.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - Not of the line of Gwygoytha, Combated the Blight.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - (Might be the same High Chief as the above one) - Combated the Blight, made contact with the Western Confederacy
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - Led the People when the Blight was fought into the 3rd generation and solved, met with Patrikwos of the Storm Clan, led the people during the war with the Storm Clan.
  • Unknown amount of High Chiefs.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - (Might be the High Chief above) - Sent the trader Mythwyn and Shaman Dellgynna to make contact with the Spirit Talkers, Fought the Storm Clan until the death of Patrikwos. Accepted one of Patrikwos' sons as part of the People.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - Noticed corruption of lower chiefs and confronted them, created the Blackbirds.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - Ordered the exploration of the Lowlands, learned of the Wall of Skulls.
  • Unknown amount of (incompetent) High Chiefs.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - A warrior that wanted his son to become heir, managed to get the lower Chiefs in line through treat of violence, gave the shamans a vote in the election, died of a broken heart after his son's death.
  • Hewthyun (High Chief) - Administratively competent compated to the previous High Chiefs. Met the Thunder Horse Tribe and their leader Wendtikwos, Ruled during the creation of the Star Axe and unleased the Thunder Horse on the Lowlands, Reformed the election system, Had a mind for numbers, Started building the Canal, Ruled during the death of Wendtikwos and the loss of the Star Axe, Went Senile.
  • Unknown amount of High Chiefs.
  • Unknown High Chief (High Chief) - Integrated several members of the Thunder Horse that were left behind.
 
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You know as one of the first terms to come up there and connecting it Terminology, I cannot help but wonder

How is Txolla pronounced?

'tx" is something I see in Nahuatl, so it makes me think of the Spanish 'll' or 'y' sound.

So potentially Txo-'ya' or Txo-'la'

Then there is the potential difference between 'tk'-so and t-'sho' for the first part because 'x' can be pronounced 'sh'.

What combination is everyone else using?
 
Sivantic said:
You know as one of the first terms to come up there and connecting it Terminology, I cannot help but wonder

How is Txolla pronounced?

'tx" is something I see in Nahuatl, so it makes me think of the Spanish 'll' or 'y' sound.

So potentially Txo-'ya' or Txo-'la'

Then there is the potential difference between 'tk'-so and t-'sho' for the first part because 'x' can be pronounced 'sh'.

What combination is everyone else using?
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Tick-sow-la
I split the x into a ck and a s sound in my head.
 
DakkaMania said:
We need a bricklayer guild so we can use Guild actions for it.

Jokes aside, better tech made basic walls automatic already. It's possible that a combination of ironworks and concrete (which shouldn't be too far off by now) makes significant walls much easier in terms of progress per action.
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Concrete is great, but not necessary for wallbuilding.

Probably the number one resource constraint is just sheer manpower, which may be solved by Ironwork anyway, since it does free up labor to be used elsewhere.

The Great Wall of China wasn't always made of bricks, but rammed earth, and that's good enough for the Great Wall of Ymaryn.

DakkaMania said:
Watchtowers and their eventual Castle evolution may be the best bet, though. It's defence in depth. Not because the nomads will have difficulties besieging every fortress on the way, but because besieging them costs time and strategic mobility, which is a large part of what makes the bastards so dangerous. If they have to take every castle, they get bogged down. If they ride past, they leave enemy troops in their rear to make trouble.
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Possible, but castles were usually residences owned by nobles. Since that isn't the case, it's likely to be forts instead. Though the difference is largely semantic.

Sivantic said:
You know as one of the first terms to come up there and connecting it Terminology, I cannot help but wonder

How is Txolla pronounced?

'tx" is something I see in Nahuatl, so it makes me think of the Spanish 'll' or 'y' sound.

So potentially Txo-'ya' or Txo-'la'

Then there is the potential difference between 'tk'-so and t-'sho' for the first part because 'x' can be pronounced 'sh'.

What combination is everyone else using?
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I pronounced it as 'Tox'-'la'.
 
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ctulhuslp said:
We'd lose the fleet :V
I mean, he said already that we cannot contest fleet in the strait; it's reasonable to assume that fleet near the strait would also be in trouble, the closer to strait the worse.
The point he's talking about is two-pronged strike where Freehills stare at them from eastern side and thus tie down forces, while our forces "flank" them via landing from Tinriver.
Without Freehills we'd have to split our forces which is all kinds of bad idea.
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Fleet density in the straits is absurd. You get to guard a narrow stretch of water very densely with very few ships.

The kind of naval power needed to interdict supply runs up the coast at all is at least 5-6 times higher than the amount needed to hold the straits. They would find it easier to blockade Tinriver actually.
 
Kiba said:
I pronounced it as 'Tox'-'la'.
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T-xol-la
Chol-la
etc.
ExNihilo said:
So fellow wiki-workers @BungieONI, @Kiba, @TortugaGreen, and whoever else;

How are we going to properly do Thunder Horse? Currently, three different and distinct states have called themselves Thunder Horse, notably, the original nomads who settled down, the eastern nomads who took their name, and now our vassal. Similarly, Thunder Speakers was at one point Thunder Horse. Do we need to make like 5 pages for these two names?
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Start w/ original TH, have a link during the split & continue the history of the TH until they become the TS. Then, on the page for the ETH that became the TH and then became the THEmpire, talk about their split into the MH and NTH.
 
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Biggest reason I ask is that once I started t9 mess around with the different pronunciation, I came up with the funniest one.

Chola

That painted an interesting image of them in my head :V
Kiba said:
I pronounced it as 'Tox'-'la'.
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Ah, you are one of those people.
HeWhoAdds said:
In universe, how far back do you think the Ymaryn would be able to trace this?
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To the point where we started to write stuff down. Some stuff would be lost anyway though.
 
Sivantic said:
Biggest reason I ask is that once I started t9 mess around with the different pronunciation, I came up with the funniest one.

Chola

That painted an interesting image of them in my head :V

Ah, you are one of those people.

To the point where we started to write stuff down. Some stuff would be lost anyway though.
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You can date further back than that using archaeological tools, though it's uncertain because of black soil actions and reorganization of settlements.
 
Sivantic said:
You know as one of the first terms to come up there and connecting it Terminology, I cannot help but wonder

How is Txolla pronounced?

'tx" is something I see in Nahuatl, so it makes me think of the Spanish 'll' or 'y' sound.

So potentially Txo-'ya' or Txo-'la'

Then there is the potential difference between 'tk'-so and t-'sho' for the first part because 'x' can be pronounced 'sh'.

What combination is everyone else using?
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I use a more guttural sound, so it comes out as Toc-ill-la.

When I have access to a Mic I'll do a thing.
 
for those working on the wiki. Can you include an index page? The wiki says there are 26 pages, but I can only access maybe 7 because of my ignorance on the titles of those other pages.
 
Sivantic said:
So you too ignore the spelling and switch the letters around as you feel like, I see:V
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I pronounce it 'Tux'-'O'-'la'.
Sorta. The 'Tx' at the beginning is basically this funny little click sound to me.

Marlin said:
for those working on the wiki. Can you include an index page? The wiki says there are 26 pages, but I can only access maybe 7 because of my ignorance on the titles of those other pages.
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We are working on it.
 
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