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Hellllo, Golden Centralization! What fun!
Though, uh, I'm actually pretty confused about this. @Academia Nut - didn't we have a non-yellow centralization of 7 before Intervening In Foreign Affairs? Since then, we've added 6 more roads (11->17, +2 Max Cent), gained two provinces over cap (under 12 -> 14, -1 Max Cent), and lost two non-free cities (6 -> 4, +2 Max Cent). Not sure about GPs, but even then, shouldn't 7 be well under our gold threshold?
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Well fuck me on a pike.
E: Nevermind! He fixed it! Thanks AN!.
Phew, now we can safely spend 8. Vassal Tax doesn't seem to be applied right now.
Also we would not win on a civil war. We'd lose, probably from too much shit accumulating and we die.
What we need is to get our Econ lower, and continue the Myranyn reforms so that the Martial limit rises. I.e Second Son is going to take a few more turns to figure out, but it is possible to do now without suppressing the Yeomen.
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This is when we find out the periods of low cen lowers the cap
It seemed like the people arguing for taking Not!Constantinople were taking it in turns, whereas those against were the same people constantly debating. So I imagine that was part of the issue.
Stats update. So don't count your chicken before they stop quantum hatching/dying.
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Yeah they just changed a little.
We are now at 14 (+4) [-6] for Econ which makes me much happier.
And Martial is now down to more manageable levels. Still too high, though. 
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our centralization isn't high enough to solve the crises.
And Martial is now down to more manageable levels. Still too high, though.
We'll be yellow. At this point, I expect the reform to be the only way we're going to fix this mess.
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Cent is high enough, it's just that we still have too much martial, since it goes off of bracket martial instead of our actual martial.
Which means we'll have to spend all of our econ to get low enough to end the crisis, which is a really risky proposition.
What did I just said about counting your chicken?
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I checked after you said this, guess what ? ITS NOT GREEN.
Hey, guys! Aren't you all glad we DIDN'T go for capturing Trell while our crisis was still spinning?
First. That piece of info is outdated.
Second, stats may changes any time until the update is dropped, and even after that. So be patient.
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Indeed.
I think we actually have to hit Cent 8 to make that req green.
Oh also. We can't take main EJ because that would put us in red Cent. Fuck.
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Or possibly it just won't turn green until we meet or approach another of the requirements.
@Academia Nut - I have questions.
- Why is our Econ Tax not counted under Econ Income?
- Why are we at -2 stability? We should have gone up by 1 from the combination of EJ (+2) and refugees (-1)
- Why is Centralization 7 yellow? If you can't/won't answer that, can you at least confirm that currently, the Cent value of 7 being Yellow is correct, and the same is true for the 7 NOT being Yellow back at Intervening in Foreign Internal Affairs?
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Doubtful, since that wasn't how it worked for the Tax way back when.
Considering that our new mercenary company is call "Blood Rain", I'm going to bet that we participated in a slaughter. Although it's possible that we suffered from a new wave of disease or other random calamity.
Not to worry. {S} EJ + {S} Improve Festival is even better for stability. Or if we want more stability than that (and we almost certainly do), {S} PG + {M} RoO + {S} EJ is an even stronger combo, albeit at double the cost.
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Why are you asking questions when he's pretty clearly not finished the update yet? Let the man work.
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Doubtful, since we didn't send them. They weren't even around to be sent.
Probably a reference to their high crossbowman membership.
We can stomach the cost right? I am sad that we can't implement any of the Myranyn Reforms.
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Economy and Guild Actions.
We can do a minimum of 2 Econ in Guild Actions. If we want to send Wealth negative. In fact we can't spend more than four wealth right now, and probably no more than 3.
So as far as I can see our spending limits are 3 Wealth, and 8 Econ.
E: Though our income for it is -1 right this second so that limit is probably -2 Wealth.
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