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- He/Him
Never was. Yes. Both and neither, depending on region: the one in the palace is male.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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- Original
Never was. Yes. Both and neither, depending on region: the one in the palace is male.
- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
I think
I know whats going to happen to the trellis lose their city to freehills.
Dutch
Bored Spearman of the Wind
- Location
- CET
Because people are talking about two different meanings of the word independent.
Freehills is described fiercely independent in terms of resistance to foreign influence and demands. Not it terms of "We have to do everything ourselves, other people blow."
- Location
- Mists of Albion
....wait what? I'm pretty sure they were connected via the temple thing.
Yes, cool. He is quite the badass
Wait we never got that standardised? That's surprising considering how long ago that was an issue.
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- He/Him
Yes, but they were never married. It's much more of a mentor-student relationship for the most part.
Dithered too long on the temple and palace.
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- Mists of Albion
That's burst my bubble....
Edit: wait, most part? Can we have an expansion on that, because Crow with a pupil sounds a bit weird.
Damn it!!!
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- Location
- United States
We've never really built more temples, so I'm assuming locals just came to their own conclusions about the Gods.
Everyone shared the same framework, but without the core institution spreading around people kinda did their own thing.
Dutch
Bored Spearman of the Wind
- Location
- CET
Which incidentally would make it more susceptible to outside influences should the perceived authority of the priests falter.
*whistles*
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
More temples will make our cultural values more standardized, at least while we're building the temples which forces priests from the core to be exported to staff them.
More roads solves nearly everything.
I'd rather hold back on the Dam for just a bit while we finish the reforms, the internal reorganization, and the L2 Ironworks.
More roads solves nearly everything.
I'd rather hold back on the Dam for just a bit while we finish the reforms, the internal reorganization, and the L2 Ironworks.
- Location
- United States
Yep.
We should really build some more temples, since the new religion was just stated to have no problems with Slavery.
Our anti slavery stance is now running off of just cultural inertia, so we have to solidify it before some traders ask why slavery is really so bad and we'll have no priests to smack them upside the head for it.
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- Voidbetweenstars
Our problem, is that by going for shines our stats tend to high, thus making it impossible for building of regular backbone buildings needed to keep our nation stable, temples couldn't be built because of our high religious authority, roads earlier on weren't built because fear of high centralization, meanwhile... it means our nation cant keep up with what is needed to stable. high wealth? no more salt farms built.
- Location
- Hell
...I am not asking to build one, I am saying we had one that did not take an action for some reason
*shrug*
I will just pretend they upped their Economy just in case with everything going on.
- Location
- Austria
what?
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Do you think that them being independence-minded makes them incapable of external diplomacy? They are not SV, they can into international relationships of peer powers.
"Just"?
There is a regular stick, and then there is threatening with rebellion. Over the offensive war. Threatening with rebellion if we were, like, killing them or doing something like debasing currency down to 0.01% precious metals then "we are gonna rebel" would at least be somewhat understanable. But blackmailing king into offensive war via threat of rebellion is a step too far.
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Well, that was one exhausting debating period.
Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
- Location
- Something Clever
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- She/Her
Hm...now that the vote's been called, @Academia Nut, can you tell us what would have happened if it had been a tie? Curious how much of the concern surrounding that possibility was warranted versus overblown.
Sure. I agree with all that.
Except the part about the lowlands canal letting us shiny chase to our hearts content. There will ALWAYS be more shinies to chase than we have actions for, canal or no canal.
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- Austria
Yes, one of main sources of fun (or often !!FUN!!) in this quest is that we are perpetually faced with more shinies than we can chase. AN explictly did not want action bloat to, IIRC, preserve this among other things.
(there is still action bloat unfortunately now)
That's not going to chase.
Every time we get hit with a stability loss, probably. It's not like they will stop coming to The Games or their values stop influencing after they got their ass conquered. If the Trelli war is over, we could send our MCs to fight the Storm Tribes out of pure self-interest.
That is more of a point about keeping our RA high than building temples. And in any case, the reason we can't build more temples in the first place is because our RA is already high.
Honestly, if you want to build more temples? Try to get the Priest Mission finished. There is a decent chance that an extra Spiritual Slot will give us something to do with our actual RA, at which point we start building Temples to match the outflow.
That has been a problem on occasion, but much often than that it is just a case of not having actions to spare.
Look how we haven't build Watchtowers in half a Millennia. That isn't because they raise some stat too high, or even because they cost too much; it is just because we don't have free actions to throw at it.
Alternatively, look at Walls, Palace Annexes, Theaters, etc. We have lots of things that could use building and would give narrative and mechanical benefits for doing so, but don't get built because we ultimately don't have time.
To be fair, I think this had a decent amount to do with our SS crisis being ongoing. Notice how the Civil War would have included the same regions that an SS civil war would be fought with.
Romv
A Memory of TREES
Yes, this.
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- He/Him
For something like that, I would have eventually just gone "Sudden death, next vote for one of the two wins it"
You nearly gave me a heart attack there. I glance over your message and all I see is Sudden Death. Given all of the doom and gloom echoing throughout the thread, that is not something I wanted to see from the GM. Salt had temporarily climbed to fatal levels. Now give me a moment while I go cook dinner and convince my heart it actually didn't need to race two blocks down the street.
- Location
- Illinois
Governor: "So... you want us to just build roads? Nothing else?"
King: "Nope. Just roads."
Governor: "Uh, but my King, we've had some overcrowding issues in the cities lately, shouldn't we allocate some resources to--"
Kings: "Roads'll fix that. Only roads."
Governor: "Uh... whatever you say, my king..."