Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
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I can't wait to see future Ymaryns arguing about produce and gmos. I have no idea why that's my first post but here we are.
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DocMatoi
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a reason to do it
BungieONI
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Oh wow. Those would quite possibly be vicious.
Or completely sedate. I guess it will depend.
Anyway how fucking awesome is it that their concept of dragons spit something that is a stage more pure and awesome than lightning?
I mean jesus Crow that is far too metal for my mortal mind to comprehend.
Umi-san
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*shrug*
I don't think future Ymaryns would argue that much about produce considering that the former appear to still be grown somewhat locally (in the gardens of the city) while we have strong-ish health studies that would relatively quickly go like "oh, pesticides are bad for you."
We'd probably argue about GMO's though. Some people would be like "it lets us grow more" and others would be like "just avoid monoculture."
@Academia Nut Do we monoculture or what?
Umi-san
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inverse. lightning is the most vitriol thing, the dragons spit something a stage below that but above vitriol as we can make it.
Bronze roofs for temples might be more impressive, given the relative rarity.
Or just generally amazing architecture like the dome of the pantheon or the Hagia Sophia.
Coating everything in gold is just unoriginal and gauche.
BungieONI
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*takes a look*
Water-borne vitriol being what we can make. So they "spit" pure elemental vitriol, which is not isolate-able.
The phrase "the purest form of vitriol available in the material world" reads to me like pure vitriol is not available on the mortal world.
So the organization to me seems like:
Pure Vitriol (dragon spit)
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Lightning
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Water-borne vitriol
(E: granted this is mostly nitpicks)
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Abby Normal
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Civ sheet updated again, and we have more centralization, but we have less econ and less econ expansion??
Wait...ah, shit!
(Also, AN, does Place to the Stars provide canal bonuses?)
Diff Checker
Civ sheet updated again, and we have more centralization, but we have less econ and less econ expansion??
Wait...ah, shit!
The free city stuff changed from what it was on the last action sheet; the last action sheet said it transferred 2 econ (which would return 2 econ expansion), but now it transfers 2 econ AND 2 econ expansion (technically 4, since the 2 econ transfer would still refund 2 EE, but it eats 2 EE net...), so each free city eats 4 LTE! Which means we now literally can't even max out econ without having 0 expansion slots left... @Academia Nut why does it now eat that much econ permanently to have a free city?
(Also, AN, does Place to the Stars provide canal bonuses?)
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BungieONI
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I'd guess the econ munch is from the Free City being given sufficient land around it in order to feed itself.Diff Checker
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Civ sheet updated again, and we have more centralization, but we have less econ and less econ expansion??
Wait...ah, shit!
The free city stuff changed from what it was on the last action sheet; the last action sheet said it transferred 2 econ (which would return 2 econ expansion), but now it transfers 2 econ AND 2 econ expansion (technically 4, since the 2 econ transfer would still refund 2 EE, but it eats 2 EE net...), so each free city eats 4 LTE! Which means we now literally can't even max out econ without having 0 expansion slots left... @Academia Nut why does it now eat that much econ permanently to have a free city?
(Also, AN, does Place to the Stars provide canal bonuses?)
Basically the per turn econ cost of it being a True City has to come from somewhere so the land around it makes the most sense.
Umi-san
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Hmm... I guess that this makes sense if the dragons are supernatural rather than material.
I concur.
Romv
A Memory of TREES
Free Cities have always costed 2 econ and 2 econ expansion. Check the first update we had the option 'Banners heralding change'.Diff Checker
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Civ sheet updated again, and we have more centralization, but we have less econ and less econ expansion??
Wait...ah, shit!
The free city stuff changed from what it was on the last action sheet; the last action sheet said it transferred 2 econ (which would return 2 econ expansion), but now it transfers 2 econ AND 2 econ expansion (technically 4, since the 2 econ transfer would still refund 2 EE, but it eats 2 EE net...), so each free city eats 4 LTE! Which means we now literally can't even max out econ without having 0 expansion slots left... @Academia Nut why does it now eat that much econ permanently to have a free city?
(Also, AN, does Place to the Stars provide canal bonuses?)
maximillian
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The real question of the ages is :
How can we improve the quality of our wool to make it its own trade good?
I want my renaissance finery God dammit!
How can we improve the quality of our wool to make it its own trade good?
I want my renaissance finery God dammit!
BungieONI
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Distinctly so sir Cat. They are in fact considered Demons from the dawn of time, so you get this sort of conclusion.
The real kicker with this organization of vitriol is that it is not orthodox since it implies that our mortal alchemists can't refine pure vitriol ever.
Which must stick in their craws.
Pretty good.
I'm feeling the need for some ominous music though. Got something darker?
Well good sheep we are trading in textiles, so that may be a combo of fur and wool. And with the demand now, our wool should rise in quality naturally.
Umi-san
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Support Artisans probably.
Strengthen the weaver guild so they develop new techniques to make textiles worth exporting and have enough wealth to push shepherds to invest in sheep w/ finer wool.
Abby Normal
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Huh... you're right:
I'd been looking at the action list for it, which just says "transfer 2 econ":
But yeah, i might have voted for just a single city if i'd noticed that instead of just going off the action list :/
Hyacinthium
Writing about sad cannibals as we speak.
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Nature inspired motifs, and I will advocate for expansion of our fashion industry. Mostly a forgone conclusion when one considers the Ymaryn but still.
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Legacy Gained
The King of Kings: Every nation in the world now knows of you as the Land of the Gods. They are jealous. 'Ware Heroes come to topple your Dark Throne.
Romv
A Memory of TREES
Huh, hadn't even noticed it wasn't the same in the list, I just remembered it was two of both and went looking for an update with the option.
Umi-san
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Legacy Gained
Well Known: Foreign nations have heard of you and are curious about this power over the horizon. Random chance of foreign diplomats arriving every main turn. Minor increase in Trade Power, Pilgrimage, hostile assaults, inward and outward tech exchange. Effect strengthened as Prestige increases. Legacy lost after having less than 100 Prestige for 5 or more turns.
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BungieONI
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Oh that's far more reasonable.
But it's not as funny... *sigh*
I wanna be the Final Boss consarnit!
This doesn't seem like much of a problem, between a fair fraction of voters wanting to integrate a colony and not having a Baby Boom going on.
Umi-san
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honestly I don't want to be the final boss I just want to consume the world and then reach for the stars.I wanna be the Final Boss consarnit!
Edit: Supposedly we can integrate the WW in a single turn due to their Governor's Palace, but I'd rather integrate the Txolla instead to see if we can reach the TS and integrate them >.>