@Concho117 I forgot to ask earlier, but please spoiler your pictures. It is rude to cell phone users.
Thanks for the reminder Sivantic.

"Let's use our advanced sociological knowledge to predict future events and then orbit our space stations in ways that convey mathematical representations of our predictions."
Translation: "let's mess with the lower lifeforms Bob!" "Okay Jim!" :V


Spoiler that one quick please.
 
Thanks for the reminder Sivantic.


Translation: "let's mess with the lower lifeforms Bob!" "Okay Jim!" :V

This is my new head cannon now and nobody can tell me otherwise.
 
Ugh I am going to hate myself for this, but the priests have already been having issues fighting against the KH's gods due us having comparatively much less RA to the point that the usually political neutral faction wants a spiffier temple
AN has already said that at a minimum we lose at least -1 RA by choosing no. That might be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

I Really Really Really Really Really don't want to let the Highlanders off the hook, since this is clearly a ploy setup by their intrigue hero to screw us over, but having our gods supplanted by the KH's is even worse.

[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)

I will just have to hope that when the Highlanders betray us they completely botch their War and Diplomacy rolls leading us to annex them relatively painlessly.
 
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And just for fun, I'd like to bring up one particular piece of fiction relevant to this argument.
Unsong.

People discovered the first few Names of God through deep understanding of Torah, through silent prayer and meditation, or even through direct revelation from angels. But American capitalism took one look at prophetic inspiration and decided it lacked a certain ability to be forced upon an army of low-paid interchangeable drones. Thus the modern method: hire people at minimum wage to chant all the words that might be Names of God, and see whether one of them starts glowing with holy light or summoning an angelic host to do their bidding. If so, copyright the Name and make a fortune.
 
"Let's use our advanced sociological knowledge to predict future events and then orbit our space stations in ways that convey mathematical representations of our predictions."
N=number of satellites, if orbital polity predicts far reaching events going down they increase number of satellites to observe the area.

Thus N increasing can be used to predict that far reaching events will happen.
 
@NewAgeOfPower, found you a governess to help you with your bleats:
>Constantly implies feudal imperialism is a good thing and advocates we adopt it as our social model
>Snidely suggests outside conquest is the solution to the Middle East
>Postulates rationale for conquest as 'because we can' [sic] and that it should be universally applied
>Dodges questions when asked how such rules should be applied today

And you dare ask "How am I trolling?"
 
[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)
 
[X] No

I hate the HK enough to risk the god's wrath falling down on us.
You need to add the (???) to the end of that no vote.
Any emotional reason to smite the HK is equally valid for the TH.

Both are dicks.
Both backstabbed us repeatedly.
Both would kill and subjugate us given the chance.

Hating one and not the other is inherently illogical and experience shows that hate-boners make poor advisors.

There are perfectly reasonable and logical reasons to subjugate the HK and not the TH and those serve us much better.
While you are correct that it is better to use the logical arguments as they better push forward the cause, emotionally the TH are farther than the HK. For one, the view of HK and TH is different. TH is expected to be this far-away warring kingdom that will fight anyone in an endless effort to expand like some sort of nomad. The HK are close neighbors that we regularly are in contact with and hear more of in general. Finally, and the most important part, the HK have hurt us a lot more than the TH using their intrigue alone, not just through warring alone. We are not aware of the full extent, but we do know they have done many actions within our kingdom and likely have some form of contacts or spy ring within our borders.

It is reasonable to dislike the HK a lot more than TH. At first glance, the two may appear to be equal, but in reality the HK have done a lot more. As I said though, you are correct in stating that we really should just use the logical arguments because stating "I'm voting this because I hate HK" makes us look illogical and like we would be willing to throw away everything we have worked for for short-term vengeance, which is far from the truth.
 
[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)

If you don't like the people following prophecies, then Yes will help show fault in these predictions. If you want to keep chasing the (probably not real) magic, vote Yes to pursue mysteries.
 
Before the next lock occurs...

[X] Yes (Forfeits the CB against the Highlanders, declares war against the Thunder Horse, brings Yenyna out of retirement, ???)

I've tentatively come around to @notgreat way of thought. It will hurt, but it will pay off.

Still should max that stability and not kick to prevent serious issues if HK goes for a new round.
 
@NewAgeOfPower

>Constantly implies feudal imperialism is a good thing and advocates we adopt it as our social model

I have explained myself on fuedalism and imperialism from rather early on the thread, I addressed thier benefits and detremints and how to avoid them.

>Snidely suggests outside conquest is the solution to the Middle East

No I was nitpicking, If any implications where drawn, they were not meant.

>Postulates rationale for conquest as 'because we can' [sic] and that it should be universally applied

This falls under the first, I had already argued that position a few hundred pages ago, it is largely sentimental yes, but there is a method to it.

>Dodges questions when asked how such rules should be applied today

You asked about a modern state acting like a bronze Age state, and I answered no.
All states should act for thier interests, but time and geography greatly changes the form and kind of actions that can be taken to further one's interests. Thus what one can do in the iron age is of utter irrelevance to what one can do in the modern era.


And you dare ask "How am I trolling?"

Indeed how am I trolling?
 
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