BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
This is a better one to shoot for in my opinion.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
TheDanishLord
Viking Warlord
- Location
- Denmark
Languages evolve. As do writing systems.
If the phonetic parts of the system prove more competitive, they will naturally replace the pictographic elements as we assimilate bits and pieces of foreign languages the refugees bring in. We do have a lot of loan words already. The pictographs will have trouble keeping up with all those new things while the phonetic can adapt more easily. So odds are the Scribes will settle on phonetics because they are busy enough already without having to learn even more pictographs.
If the phonetic parts of the system prove more competitive, they will naturally replace the pictographic elements as we assimilate bits and pieces of foreign languages the refugees bring in. We do have a lot of loan words already. The pictographs will have trouble keeping up with all those new things while the phonetic can adapt more easily. So odds are the Scribes will settle on phonetics because they are busy enough already without having to learn even more pictographs.
Epic Age IV
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X][Main] Build Annex - Arsenal
[X][Secondary] Study Metal
[X][Secondary] Support Artisans
Provinces – [Main] War Mission x2 – Khemetri, [Sec] Raise Army
Policy – Redshore Aqueduct (4/6), Significant Walls (12/42)
Stallion – [Main] Build Walls
Western – [Main] Support Artisans, [Sec] New Settlement, [Sec] Build Walls
Greenshore – [Sec] Build Walls, [Sec] New Settlement
Gulvalley – [Sec] War Mission – Khemetri, [Sec] Build Watchtowers
Heaven's Hawk – [Sec] Build Walls, [Sec] Build Watchtowers
Txolla – [Main] Build Walls, [Sec] Expand Econ
Tinriver – [Sec] Expand Econ, [Sec] Trade Mission – Trelli
The People were beset on all sides, near enough. While fortunately not unexpected, the Highlanders had launched a massive invasion out of the western passes, overrunning the warriors in the field. What had happened to the fortified settlements in their way was unknown, but they probably still stood and had simply been bypassed for the most part. Unfortunately, this had allowed the Highlanders to massively disrupt trade and essentially cut off Gulvalley and Upper Hatvalley from proper reinforcements, right as the King of the Khemetri actually showed up with the rest of his army. And then the Thunder Horse had decided that they wanted in too and had massively overrun the Txolla, whose defence had collapsed with alarming rapidity, pushing them back to a handful of fortified settlements.
And yet the People came onward, tens of thousands of warriors hurled into the teeth of the enemy. The slaughter was incredible, and while the People were being steady pushed back and isolated, their reserves of warriors were deep and more could be trained up in short order. Were it just the Thunder Horse and Highlanders, there would be no issue, but the Khemetri had quickly been revealed as something else. They too seemed to have endless reserves of warriors and conscripts, and their king - or maybe it was heir, it was hard to tell - was a glorious shining beacon of martial skill and morale. Even in the face of superior weaponry the ranks of thousands at his command refused to break, and in fact overran more than one engagement that should have been assured for the People. In general part of the problem was that the People were actively looking for a fight against the Khemetri while the Khemetri wanted to conquer territory. While the People had inflicted severe losses Weirdly this meant that those most successful at stymieing the Khemetri were the Trelli mercenaries, because they tended to try to avoid fighting warriors and instead preyed upon villages and camp followers. The People didn't like it, but it certainly worked, and certainly helped keep them fed when the supply route into the region was mostly cut by the Highlanders.
Despite all of this, the core remained strong and robust. The People were upset and unsettled, but more than that they were angry.
Took massive damage, increased Martial score anyway. Choose a bonus
[] [WB] Gain the The King Still Stands Legacy
[] [WB] Upgrade We Have Reserves
[] [WB] Gain a new Honour Code slot
[] [WB] Gain a free use of Main Proclaim Glory
[] [WB] Let the storytellers sing of this forevermore (+8 Culture)
Meanwhile the king desperately tried to get the best equipment and magic he could to those fighting on all fronts. A huge new section of the palace was built to accommodate work spaces for the very best of the artisans in the kingdom to work with the full backing of the king and access to the finest materials. While for the most part this unfortunately didn't improve the quality of things quite as much as hoped - initially anyway - it did begin the process of transforming how things were done. With the artisan associations deeply rooted in the largest settlements and spread out to support the smaller ones, for those in charge it quickly became sensible to reorder how goods flowed. The clerks didn't need to stand between the farmers and miners and the artisans, but work alongside them to get everything to where it needed to be without having to stop at depots along the way.
Palace Economy -> Guild Mercantile
The artisans supply the warriors and nobility with all the things they need to do their jobs, so the rest of the economy should be geared to supply them with what they need to produce those goods.
Extra Actions: +1 Secondary/3 provinces for manufacturing (must take min. number of actions)
Temp Econ Damage: Event + 1 - Centralization/3
Wealth Generation: Leading/2
Passive Policies: 1 + True Cities (includes Free Cities)
Special: Penalties for over-centralization doubled
Special: Low Wealth can generate Stability loss
There was one peculiar thing that spilled out of the sponsorship of the king and having artisan facilities in the castle, and that was that the ever curious mystic got to watch the smiths work up close, and thus got to ask a rather peculiar question one day.
"Why are you throwing that bar of iron out?" Desdydyn asked one of the smiths who had tossed a piece he had been working on in the waste bin, to be brought back to the kilns.
"I shoved it into the forge to heat up but I forgot about it when Yumuthyn distracted me. When you do that you get all of this garbage scale on it and you have to hammer and grind it down, which is a job for the apprentices in the mills," the smith replied.
Going to examine the crusted up bar of iron, the smith cautioned, "Sir, be careful, those scales are brittle and sharp."
The king paused and considered this for a moment before he asked, "Could you do that to something already sharp? Just give it a little bit of scale to make it sharper?"
The smith opened his mouth to explain why that was a stupid idea, paused when he remembered he was talking to the king, began to rethink what he was going to say, and then after a moment's consideration replied, "Actually, I don't know. Maybe? If you want me to potentially ruin a couple of completed arrowheads or the like to see I suppose I could do that."
"Absolutely. At the very least we can include it in the artisan's library of things not to do," Desdydyn stated.
With the experiment in motion, it was discovered that you could make a sharper edge by very carefully immersing an iron item in charcoal in just the right way. While widespread use of this would take quite some time, and getting these new, sharper weapons to those who needed them most was something of a challenge, it certainly had immense long term potential.
Further, between the war and the reorganization of the artisan associations and the way the People were bent towards throwing their all into this, it became the perfect cauldron of social alchemy to bring genius to the fore. In this time of heroes and epics, the greatest had to step to the front.
Hero unit production boosted for everyone right now, choose from the following
[] [Hero] Upgrade current heir to Heroic Martial, Good Diplo, Good Admin
[] [Hero] Gain a Genius general
[] [Hero] Gain a Genius artisan
[] [Hero] Gain a Genius alchemist
[] [Hero] Gain a Genius trader
[] [Hero] Randomly gain at least one new technology (exploding dice)
AN: Genius is Hero+
Of course, the biggest question was where to focus efforts on the places where the People were being attacked. The People obviously needed to clear out the obstruction the Highlanders had made to most effectively continue prosecuting their fight against the Khemetri, but the Highlanders could also hit their holdings in the lowlands. While the fighting against the Khemetri was probably the hardest, the Txolla were also in need of the greatest amount of reinforcement against the Thunder Horse. Fortunately the Hawks and Stallions were going to be slamming into the Thunder Speakers from the north with all the fury they could muster, which was considerable. Of course, that would just be distracting them unless they got spectacularly lucky and were able to cut through the Spirit Channel and get into the lowlands.
Choose which theater to focus on. Priority will be given in order of the number of votes taken
[] [War] Hatvalley (Khemetri + Highlanders)
[] [War] Western Lowlands (Highlanders + Thunder Horse)
[] [War] Txolla (Thunder Horse)
Snap and press The Button?
[] [Kick] No
[] [Kick] 1 Stability
[] [Kick] 2 Stability
[] [Kick] 3 Stability
[] [Kick] 4 Stability
[] [Kick] 5 Stability
[] [Kick] 6 Stability (requires Proclaim Glory choice)
[] [Kick] 7 Stability (requires Proclaim Glory choice)
AN: You are only a few years into the war and not yet at the mid-turn, so you do not have any reaction type actions yet. This can also be seen of as your war missions being double strength meaning that you get the same amount of fighting done in half the time and thus get additional sub-turns for fighting
Also, yes, you rolled pretty garbage on your war mission rolls (except the Trelli mercs) while your foes rolled amazing and I think every nation in this mess has a Heroic Martial king or prince now, but We Have Reserves prevented the majority of damage from actually hitting
[X][Secondary] Study Metal
[X][Secondary] Support Artisans
Provinces – [Main] War Mission x2 – Khemetri, [Sec] Raise Army
Policy – Redshore Aqueduct (4/6), Significant Walls (12/42)
Stallion – [Main] Build Walls
Western – [Main] Support Artisans, [Sec] New Settlement, [Sec] Build Walls
Greenshore – [Sec] Build Walls, [Sec] New Settlement
Gulvalley – [Sec] War Mission – Khemetri, [Sec] Build Watchtowers
Heaven's Hawk – [Sec] Build Walls, [Sec] Build Watchtowers
Txolla – [Main] Build Walls, [Sec] Expand Econ
Tinriver – [Sec] Expand Econ, [Sec] Trade Mission – Trelli
The People were beset on all sides, near enough. While fortunately not unexpected, the Highlanders had launched a massive invasion out of the western passes, overrunning the warriors in the field. What had happened to the fortified settlements in their way was unknown, but they probably still stood and had simply been bypassed for the most part. Unfortunately, this had allowed the Highlanders to massively disrupt trade and essentially cut off Gulvalley and Upper Hatvalley from proper reinforcements, right as the King of the Khemetri actually showed up with the rest of his army. And then the Thunder Horse had decided that they wanted in too and had massively overrun the Txolla, whose defence had collapsed with alarming rapidity, pushing them back to a handful of fortified settlements.
And yet the People came onward, tens of thousands of warriors hurled into the teeth of the enemy. The slaughter was incredible, and while the People were being steady pushed back and isolated, their reserves of warriors were deep and more could be trained up in short order. Were it just the Thunder Horse and Highlanders, there would be no issue, but the Khemetri had quickly been revealed as something else. They too seemed to have endless reserves of warriors and conscripts, and their king - or maybe it was heir, it was hard to tell - was a glorious shining beacon of martial skill and morale. Even in the face of superior weaponry the ranks of thousands at his command refused to break, and in fact overran more than one engagement that should have been assured for the People. In general part of the problem was that the People were actively looking for a fight against the Khemetri while the Khemetri wanted to conquer territory. While the People had inflicted severe losses Weirdly this meant that those most successful at stymieing the Khemetri were the Trelli mercenaries, because they tended to try to avoid fighting warriors and instead preyed upon villages and camp followers. The People didn't like it, but it certainly worked, and certainly helped keep them fed when the supply route into the region was mostly cut by the Highlanders.
Despite all of this, the core remained strong and robust. The People were upset and unsettled, but more than that they were angry.
Took massive damage, increased Martial score anyway. Choose a bonus
[] [WB] Gain the The King Still Stands Legacy
[] [WB] Upgrade We Have Reserves
[] [WB] Gain a new Honour Code slot
[] [WB] Gain a free use of Main Proclaim Glory
[] [WB] Let the storytellers sing of this forevermore (+8 Culture)
Meanwhile the king desperately tried to get the best equipment and magic he could to those fighting on all fronts. A huge new section of the palace was built to accommodate work spaces for the very best of the artisans in the kingdom to work with the full backing of the king and access to the finest materials. While for the most part this unfortunately didn't improve the quality of things quite as much as hoped - initially anyway - it did begin the process of transforming how things were done. With the artisan associations deeply rooted in the largest settlements and spread out to support the smaller ones, for those in charge it quickly became sensible to reorder how goods flowed. The clerks didn't need to stand between the farmers and miners and the artisans, but work alongside them to get everything to where it needed to be without having to stop at depots along the way.
Palace Economy -> Guild Mercantile
The artisans supply the warriors and nobility with all the things they need to do their jobs, so the rest of the economy should be geared to supply them with what they need to produce those goods.
Extra Actions: +1 Secondary/3 provinces for manufacturing (must take min. number of actions)
Temp Econ Damage: Event + 1 - Centralization/3
Wealth Generation: Leading/2
Passive Policies: 1 + True Cities (includes Free Cities)
Special: Penalties for over-centralization doubled
Special: Low Wealth can generate Stability loss
There was one peculiar thing that spilled out of the sponsorship of the king and having artisan facilities in the castle, and that was that the ever curious mystic got to watch the smiths work up close, and thus got to ask a rather peculiar question one day.
"Why are you throwing that bar of iron out?" Desdydyn asked one of the smiths who had tossed a piece he had been working on in the waste bin, to be brought back to the kilns.
"I shoved it into the forge to heat up but I forgot about it when Yumuthyn distracted me. When you do that you get all of this garbage scale on it and you have to hammer and grind it down, which is a job for the apprentices in the mills," the smith replied.
Going to examine the crusted up bar of iron, the smith cautioned, "Sir, be careful, those scales are brittle and sharp."
The king paused and considered this for a moment before he asked, "Could you do that to something already sharp? Just give it a little bit of scale to make it sharper?"
The smith opened his mouth to explain why that was a stupid idea, paused when he remembered he was talking to the king, began to rethink what he was going to say, and then after a moment's consideration replied, "Actually, I don't know. Maybe? If you want me to potentially ruin a couple of completed arrowheads or the like to see I suppose I could do that."
"Absolutely. At the very least we can include it in the artisan's library of things not to do," Desdydyn stated.
With the experiment in motion, it was discovered that you could make a sharper edge by very carefully immersing an iron item in charcoal in just the right way. While widespread use of this would take quite some time, and getting these new, sharper weapons to those who needed them most was something of a challenge, it certainly had immense long term potential.
Further, between the war and the reorganization of the artisan associations and the way the People were bent towards throwing their all into this, it became the perfect cauldron of social alchemy to bring genius to the fore. In this time of heroes and epics, the greatest had to step to the front.
Hero unit production boosted for everyone right now, choose from the following
[] [Hero] Upgrade current heir to Heroic Martial, Good Diplo, Good Admin
[] [Hero] Gain a Genius general
[] [Hero] Gain a Genius artisan
[] [Hero] Gain a Genius alchemist
[] [Hero] Gain a Genius trader
[] [Hero] Randomly gain at least one new technology (exploding dice)
AN: Genius is Hero+
Of course, the biggest question was where to focus efforts on the places where the People were being attacked. The People obviously needed to clear out the obstruction the Highlanders had made to most effectively continue prosecuting their fight against the Khemetri, but the Highlanders could also hit their holdings in the lowlands. While the fighting against the Khemetri was probably the hardest, the Txolla were also in need of the greatest amount of reinforcement against the Thunder Horse. Fortunately the Hawks and Stallions were going to be slamming into the Thunder Speakers from the north with all the fury they could muster, which was considerable. Of course, that would just be distracting them unless they got spectacularly lucky and were able to cut through the Spirit Channel and get into the lowlands.
Choose which theater to focus on. Priority will be given in order of the number of votes taken
[] [War] Hatvalley (Khemetri + Highlanders)
[] [War] Western Lowlands (Highlanders + Thunder Horse)
[] [War] Txolla (Thunder Horse)
Snap and press The Button?
[] [Kick] No
[] [Kick] 1 Stability
[] [Kick] 2 Stability
[] [Kick] 3 Stability
[] [Kick] 4 Stability
[] [Kick] 5 Stability
[] [Kick] 6 Stability (requires Proclaim Glory choice)
[] [Kick] 7 Stability (requires Proclaim Glory choice)
AN: You are only a few years into the war and not yet at the mid-turn, so you do not have any reaction type actions yet. This can also be seen of as your war missions being double strength meaning that you get the same amount of fighting done in half the time and thus get additional sub-turns for fighting
Also, yes, you rolled pretty garbage on your war mission rolls (except the Trelli mercs) while your foes rolled amazing and I think every nation in this mess has a Heroic Martial king or prince now, but We Have Reserves prevented the majority of damage from actually hitting
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VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Hey @VoidZero as to MG i think this fit us better
Tech and overwhelming firepower
E: plus "befriending"
I prefer the grief generators to be without the ability to blow up the entire human population out of spite. (At least not before my quota are filled.)
Being on the receiving end of a barrage once is enough, thank you very much~
Not to mention the bad example for a budding magical girl.
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
...holy shit we still have 2 Stability?!
General
Diplomacy 16 [+1]
Economy 16 [-2+12]
-Sustainable Forests 10/11
-Econ Expansion 6 [+2-12]
Martial 12 (+2) {17}
Wealth 12 [+5-5]
Cultural
Culture 6
Mysticism 13 (+1) [+1]
Tech 4
Prestige 61
Stability
Stability 2 (hopeful)
Legitimacy 3 (max)
Organizational
Centralization 3
Hierarchy 7
Religious Authority 4
- Location
- United States
[X] [WB] Gain the The King Still Stands Legacy
[X] [WB] Upgrade We Have Reserves
these are both sounding amazing.
[X] [Hero] Gain a Genius general
We need a General right now.
[X] [War] Western Lowlands (Highlanders + Thunder Horse)
[X] [War] Txolla (Thunder Horse)
We need to crush them so we can focus on the Khemetri and relieve Txolla
[X] [Kick] 1 Stability
Tentative choice, might be necessary.
[X] [WB] Upgrade We Have Reserves
these are both sounding amazing.
[X] [Hero] Gain a Genius general
We need a General right now.
[X] [War] Western Lowlands (Highlanders + Thunder Horse)
[X] [War] Txolla (Thunder Horse)
We need to crush them so we can focus on the Khemetri and relieve Txolla
[X] [Kick] 1 Stability
Tentative choice, might be necessary.
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- Location
- Mists of Albion
Bloody hell....
[x] [WB] Gain the The King Still Stands Legacy
[x] [Hero] Gain a Genius general
[x] [War] Hatvalley (Khemetri + Highlanders)
[x] [Kick] 2 Stability
Burn The Arrogant Khemetri, Burn those thieving Highlanders. We need every war advantage we can get.
[x] [WB] Gain the The King Still Stands Legacy
[x] [Hero] Gain a Genius general
[x] [War] Hatvalley (Khemetri + Highlanders)
[x] [Kick] 2 Stability
Burn The Arrogant Khemetri, Burn those thieving Highlanders. We need every war advantage we can get.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Holy shite! Everything is on FIRE!
[X] [WB] Upgrade We Have Reserves
[X] [Hero] Gain a Genius artisan
[X] [War] Western Lowlands (Highlanders + Thunder Horse)
[X] [Kick] 2 Stability
Knock out the smaller players and relieve the cut off army first.
Edit: setting the forests on fire to ensure we will survive and replant seems in character.
[X] [Kick] 6 Stability
[X] [Kick] 3 Stability
[X] [Kick] 4 Stability
[X] [Kick] 5 Stability
[X] [WB] Upgrade We Have Reserves
[X] [Hero] Gain a Genius artisan
[X] [War] Western Lowlands (Highlanders + Thunder Horse)
[X] [Kick] 2 Stability
Knock out the smaller players and relieve the cut off army first.
Edit: setting the forests on fire to ensure we will survive and replant seems in character.
[X] [Kick] 6 Stability
[X] [Kick] 3 Stability
[X] [Kick] 4 Stability
[X] [Kick] 5 Stability
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- Location
- Sweden
[X] [WB] Upgrade We Have Reserves
We Have Reserves saved us. Let us upgrade it!
[X] [Hero] Gain a Genius general
We don't have time to wait for our ruler to die.
[X] [War] Western Lowlands (Highlanders + Thunder Horse)
They are weak, but can become a big problem in the long run. Grind them into dust, NOW, so that we can focus our full attention on Khemetri.
[X] [Kick] 3 Stability
-1 Stability. Safe-ish.
We Have Reserves saved us. Let us upgrade it!
[X] [Hero] Gain a Genius general
We don't have time to wait for our ruler to die.
[X] [War] Western Lowlands (Highlanders + Thunder Horse)
They are weak, but can become a big problem in the long run. Grind them into dust, NOW, so that we can focus our full attention on Khemetri.
[X] [Kick] 3 Stability
-1 Stability. Safe-ish.
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- Location
- United States
But yeah, the fact that we are getting 3 v 1 and still are standing strong shows that We Have Reserves is pretty bullshit.
Edit:
Txolla (Vassal-Colony) - Foreign territory under your control, follows you in war but has own agenda, restricted to expansion through settlement (L: 4/5, D: 4/5) THREATENED WAR LOSS
We might have to focus on the Thunder Horse, because Txolla is getting their ass beat.
Edit:
Txolla (Vassal-Colony) - Foreign territory under your control, follows you in war but has own agenda, restricted to expansion through settlement (L: 4/5, D: 4/5) THREATENED WAR LOSS
We might have to focus on the Thunder Horse, because Txolla is getting their ass beat.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Well no golden age for us.
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Real quick @Academia Nut Can you tell us what the The King Still Stands Legacy would be likely to give us?
- Location
- Mists of Albion
....Really dude? Everything is on fire and if we don't do something soon we might not survive long enough to reap the benefits.
We need a way to fight back now. Not an artisan
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Holy shit.
Wow we are holding out from three separate directions. Fuck me.
- Location
- Mists of Albion
Break the Highlanders then turn and break the Thunder Horse after, the Highlanders are still weak, they should fall sooner
[] [Hero] Gain a Genius general
A given leader can only exist on one front at once. Combine this with our current being heir at least 50 years old, and that he is already Excellent martial, I think that a new general would be better.
[] [War] Txolla (Thunder Horse)
I think that we should focus on reducing this from a three front war to a two front war.
[] [WB] Gain the The King Still Stands Legacy
Our legacies seem to be the equivalent of a level one social value without taking up slots or having negative effects.
[] [Kick] 2 Stability
The button is tempting, but I expect that we are going to be losing a minimum of one stability per turn.
A given leader can only exist on one front at once. Combine this with our current being heir at least 50 years old, and that he is already Excellent martial, I think that a new general would be better.
[] [War] Txolla (Thunder Horse)
I think that we should focus on reducing this from a three front war to a two front war.
[] [WB] Gain the The King Still Stands Legacy
Our legacies seem to be the equivalent of a level one social value without taking up slots or having negative effects.
[] [Kick] 2 Stability
The button is tempting, but I expect that we are going to be losing a minimum of one stability per turn.
NewAgeOfPower
Engineering Pornagrapher Extraordinaire
- Location
- An Certain Hive of Scum & Villainy, known as NYC
Case Hardened Iron? We're going to crack Steel a millenia earlier than IRL civs did, aren't we?
- Location
- United States
Gulvalley is far stronger and more defended, we need to focus on the Highlanders and Thunder Horse and crush them before Txolla falls.
If we fight the TH from this end and the Stallions and Heaven's Hawk fight them from the other end, they should break and ask for peace.
