Why would we loose history?

It's not like we'd burn all the old history, we'd just have to retranslate it.

Make sure we keep plenty of dictionaries well preserved ones at that, and we should be in the clear...

Theoretically.

Besides it'd confuse the **** out of future archaeologists :V
Pretty much that re-translating stuff.

I see little need to push a change. I figure just let that go naturally, it's better at self-optimizing than we are at trying to actively optimize it.

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Why would we loose history?

It's not like we'd burn all the old history, we'd just have to retranslate it.

Make sure we keep plenty of dictionaries well preserved ones at that, and we should be in the clear...

Theoretically.

Besides it'd confuse the **** out of future archaeologists :V
Translations tended to be imprecise and people are lazy when transcribing old records(which if you want to be completionist, would require a megaproject's worth of investment to convert), while differences in understanding can lead to concepts drifting.
 
Why would we loose history?

It's not like we'd burn all the old history, we'd just have to retranslate it.

Make sure we keep plenty of dictionaries well preserved ones at that, and we should be in the clear...

Theoretically.

Besides it'd confuse the **** out of future archaeologists :V


Oh stop that friend no need for it.

Besides it was Marx doing the pouring not Stalin :D.

Maybe we can be Not!Japanese and have multiple words letters for the same thing.
Kanji/Hiragana/Katakana.
 
You have to keep in mind the enabler is the spread of hammer mills, which IRL only really got popular when the Black Death killed off so many people that it was more economical to invest in the infrastructure expensive but manpower cheap plate armor.

Before that...why go to the expensive effort of producing plate metal when you could just use a dozen apprentices/slaves to churn out scales and rings repeatedly?
Local economic maxima says that as long as manpower is cheap, people will avoid developing expensive labor saving infrastructure. People hate large upfront costs but are willing to pay hundreds of small ones.
I'll admit, there was a big impetus to rely on cheap manual labor to avoid expensive mechanization somewhat in the Roman Empire- but we know that the Romans had trip hammers and used them to process ore and make sheets of metal.

For instance- the lorica segmentatum was case hardened. And that still doesn't address the expense of maintaining that sort of gear either.
 
Translations tended to be imprecise and people are lazy when transcribing old records(which if you want to be completionist, would require a megaproject's worth of investment to convert), while differences in understanding can lead to concepts drifting.

Not to mention that our archivists are already choosing what to preserve and what to not preserve. Abandoning our current system to get a 'superior' phonetic writing system is just stupid.
 
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I see little need to push a change. I figure just let that go naturally, it's better at self-optimizing than we are at trying to actively optimize it.
Translations tended to be imprecise and people are lazy when transcribing old records(which if you want to be completionist, would require a megaproject's worth of investment to convert), while differences in understanding can lead to concepts drifting.
Fair enough, though a good dictionary would probably solve part of it...

Actually that is a decent idea for a mega project, seeing how most parts of the people will have different dialects, a mega project to make a single dialect and writing system might cause greater centralisation.

Hell in England this didn't happen until the Norman Kings finally started using the London dialect of English to make official communique.
 
Fair enough, though a good dictionary would probably solve part of it...

Actually that is a decent idea for a mega project, seeing how most parts of the people will have different dialects, a mega project to make a single dialect and writing system might cause greater centralisation.

Hell in England this didn't happen until the Norman Kings finally started using the London dialect of English to make official communique.
Lets make a doomsday book too
 
I'll admit, there was a big impetus to rely on cheap manual labor to avoid expensive mechanization somewhat in the Roman Empire- but we know that the Romans had trip hammers and used them to process ore and make sheets of metal.

For instance- the lorica segmentatum was case hardened. And that still doesn't address the expense of maintaining that sort of gear either.
This bit runs past the stuff I'm easily familiar with, but I recall the issue was partly the cost and difficulty of producing large single pieces of iron with bloomery iron.

Likewise with maintenance, the difficulty largely varied along with production method(generally, if you could build it economically you could maintain it), but transitioning to steel made it a lot less concerned with rusting.
 
A completely phonetic writing system simply do not offer enough advantages to offset the loss of cultural knowledge we will suffer.
Well at this point my policy is, if it happens it happens.

And what would go in this book?

Our means through which we can end the known world? Or our prophecies on how it may end?
Even worse.

TAXES.

Who says the middle ages didn't have a sense of humour/dramatic irony.
 
Fair enough, though a good dictionary would probably solve part of it...

Actually that is a decent idea for a mega project, seeing how most parts of the people will have different dialects, a mega project to make a single dialect and writing system might cause greater centralisation.

Hell in England this didn't happen until the Norman Kings finally started using the London dialect of English to make official communique.
China did it fairly early on....with a hefty dose of oppression.
 
I'll admit, there was a big impetus to rely on cheap manual labor to avoid expensive mechanization somewhat in the Roman Empire- but we know that the Romans had trip hammers and used them to process ore and make sheets of metal.

For instance- the lorica segmentatum was case hardened. And that still doesn't address the expense of maintaining that sort of gear either.

Most likely has to do with need / army size / how good would it fit into their armys (how is the amount of time someone can fight in it effected / how fast is he ready for a fight / how much ground can he cover in a day/week / how much did it cost to create or maintain) if the overall answer is not as good as the armor they had we know for sure why they didn´t use it.

From what i know of history (not that much sadly) is that their armys would be the biggest in Europe for a long time.
 
Books, once lost, cannot be recovered.
Well why would we loose them?

It's not like we're suddenly going to do a mass clear out seeing as our policy seems to be to burry books we no longer use?

China did it fairly early on....with a hefty dose of oppression.
True, lets do it the english way.

The one with rabbits on snails fighting?
Which one?

This one

Or this one


Or this one?

 
Well why would we loose them?

It's not like we're suddenly going to do a mass clear out seeing as our policy seems to be to burry books we no longer use?


True, lets do it the english way.


Which one?

This one

Or this one


Or this one?

Yep.

Plus all the wang imagery.

The issue with the book thing is that we may lose all ability to read them if we transition systems if we are not careful and fuck up. Also like veekie said, the translations would not be as good as we might hope more than likely.


a somewhat dramatized account of what happens to our land if we stop maintaining the trees.
Oooooooo.

Yeaaaah. I like it.

So Topics of the Book of Doom:

TAXES
Exterminatus
The Forest Curse


So multiple things, mostly about what happens if we do something, with a side order of regular doomsday things.
 
Well why would we loose them?

It's not like we're suddenly going to do a mass clear out seeing as our policy seems to be to burry books we no longer use?

We aren't going to see a mass clear out, but the rate of loss is going to spike if we decide this new fanged phonetic system is a good idea.

Like I already said, our archivists already decide which work to preserve and which they will not, simply because there isn't enough time in a day to preserve all our growing collection of book.
 
*walks into thread, metaphorical tea in hand*

Huh.

Ok. Guess it's time then.


The Goblet, the party of survival and prosperity.

Motto: Sometimes people are dicks, doesn't mean we have to be.

Party manifesto:

The current war:
The party aims to see the People victorious and safe in combat. The final goal of the war is dominance of the south coast and a demand of tribute and reparations from the Khemetri for the expenses incurred while fighting.


Economy: The party believes strongly in the interconnected flow of goods in the suzerain-tributary relationships of the mandala. Luxury goods are greatly appreciated and supported as the gateway to culture. Thus, patronage of the arts and support for those artisans, as well as the wine, dyes and salt that made the Ymaryn their name in trading shall be a party goal. Pushes for technical advances to streamline production will be at the forefront, as their benefits are multiplicative, and the delegation of mineral rights with Royal support will continue a pace. The delegation of land is something the party is cautiously hopeful about, for as the Ymaryn people grow larger, it may be necessary to use it to discover administrative advances. Together the party hopes these goals will allow the Ymaryn people, from the least to the greatest have more time, and opportunity, for cultural and technical activities for the betterment of all in a glorious and Joyous Symphony.


Education: The way to prosperity is firmly believed by the party to lie in education. The opening of education to more people will require the establishment of many temples and library complexes, greatly pleasing the priests and installing them as our teachers. As a very positive side effect this will let more of the public interact more easily with the clergy in times of trouble, reducing stress and increasing happiness on a civilizational level.


Health and social care: The core of our Law is based on the health and care of our peoples, all peoples. As the priests and shamans are our doctors and mental health experts we must support them by building more places for them. We must also see to it that our leaders have access to these professionals so that they can correctly make decisions that help keep our society healthy. We can do this simply by expanding the shrine annex and the previously mentioned building of more temples.


Government: Not too much, not too little is the parties ideal. A hard balancing act certainly, but one the party is confident it can do. The party believes the State is a powerful tool for caring for and supporting the People. The state should act as the shield for the people, defending them in times of trouble and times of peace and care for their ills in all times. Without the people the State has nothing to support and thus no purpose and thus no power. As such it should not become so top heavy that it strangles those it cares for, and so at times a pruning and streamlining will be required, as can be seen with our laws.


Foreign affairs and defense: A core belief of the Goblet is that in these times our fellow humans are oft times not very harmonious. However, the party holds no ill will for them and in fact would far prefer to take them into our sphere as friends. In support of this the party will be pushing for trade missions to our neighbors and diplomatic overtures, with the goal of forestalling war and future friendship. The parties view on expansion is a complex one. Conquest for the sake of land is not necessary, and is actively detrimental to the Ymaryn people if a sudden reversal occurs. However, there is a long history for accidental gains to be made, so the party has a state of caution and watchfulness. Any gains made this way must be fortified quickly and thoroughly. All those who seek to come to our borders for asylum and care will also be welcomed to the best of our ability, and the party will endeavor to expand that ability, for the party very firmly believes that with patience and care all Peoples will become one with us.
 
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