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Abby Normal said:
Even if we can, i'm rather wary of that... If things are similar to the real world, we'd get to be responsible for super plagues destroying entire civs, which sounds like the kind of thing our civ would respond...poorly to, assuming we keep our general values that long (among other things, the possibility of managed ecosystems collapse occurring due to us spreading plague for once instead of spreading the solution, and our solutions being too late or not strong enough to save the natives, would probably lead to "must take actions to save as many people and systems as possible")

That said, i don't think AN would stick to the real world version of things. I personally am guessing that the Not!Americas have more surviving domesticatable animals than just the llama, and will have more advanced polities with enough large cities with close animals to have spawned plagues of their own, leading to a less total destruction during contact...and having similar effects on us or whichever civ makes contact, from their unique plagues that we're not used to.
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Look at it this way. Someone somewhen is going to visit the Americas and is going to unknowingly unleash several super plagues. The sooner that said plagues are introduced, the less people that will be killed, and the sooner that the Native American civilizations can begin rebuilding.
 
Kiba said:
It's necessary to connect to the America, even with the super plagues. There's no going around it killing everybody.
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That doesn't mean it won't hurt when we do; i legitimately think we'd proc a crisis by going there, either with stab hits if we don't do enough to save the people our plagues are killing, or by way of major epidemics if my guess about the AU changes is right. Of course, as others have said, that makes us the best people to find it, but we should keep in mind the possibility when we get the choice tofund an expedition while dealing with our fifth tax crisis :p

(oh, another AU possibility: a remaining land connection, or closer ocean connection, to Asia, meaning that the Americas have contact with other plagues and domesticatable animals sooner
 
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Malevolo said:
Oh boy, another glorified inbreed rat.

If it can't protect your house or your family, immobilize a threat, or do anything usefull, it's not a dog, it's a rat.

*looks angryly at chihahua, yorkshire, pug, Dachshund*
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...... Did you just call my beloved childhood pet a 'glorified inbred rat'?

I'm cool with banter and shit like that but there is a line mate. I love my dog, he is my family, show some respect for that mate

Edit: Don't mean to bite your head off there man it's just I really love my dog and it's not nice to see someone insult him like that.
 
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I don't want to think about America. Why? Have you played civilization with barbarian options turned to maximum?

An entire landmass filled with abundant stuff and competing tribal nations, that's about as dangerous as facing united nomads.

Also being vaccinated against stuff does not mean you are not carrying those stuff.
 
McLuvin said:
...... Did you just call my beloved childhood pet a 'glorified inbred rat'?

I'm cool with banter and shit like that but there is a line mate. I love my dog, he is my family, show some respect for that mate
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I didn't talk about your dog in particular, i talked about certain breeds, and i have so much respect for dogs that i can't accept that some breeds are a total disrespect to a species that helped us survive. They're with us about 20,000 years, and we go and do this to them...

Sorry for disrespecting your family in particular, i know that love, but is that love that make me hate the humans that created them and perpetuate them because they're cute.
 
Malevolo said:
I didn't talk about your dog in particular, i talked about certain breeds, and i have so much respect for dogs that i can't accept that some breeds are a total disrespect to a species that helped us survive. They're with us about 20,000 years, and we go and do this to them...

Sorry for disrespecting your family in particular, i know that love, but is that love that make me hate the humans that created them and perpetuate them because they're cute.
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Sorry man, I'm just a bit stressed whilst I'm on painkillers and my dogs not been well for a while. He's getting old and I tend to get defensive over him. They bred King Charles Spaniels to be cute, loyal and eager, not be resistant to diseases and the troubles of old age.
 
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McLuvin said:
Sorry man, I'm just a bit stressed whilst I'm on pain medication and my dogs not been well for a while. He's getting old and I tend to get defensive over him.
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I had mongrel that i feed him in the mouth (17 years) because he was old and sick, but damn dog, saved my family and my neighbors from a invasion.

I'm defensive of all dogs, but some breeds of them make me sick and hateful.
 
BungieONI said:
I think the general idea(do note I am not a supporter since I think it is the unworkable kind of insane), is that with two Mega actions on mega support one action can be dedicated to the Census and the other to the Games while the Law bonus doubles one or the other. In a perfect world, which this ain't, we could sit on megasupport for a few turns and have those both churned out. E: Basically the idea is to do them at the same time over multiple turns and then finish them at the same time.

Totally nuts but I think resource wise it would be fine after we finish the palace since the Census at that point is basically a Myst generator.
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I personally think the best way to get a legacy would be to start a golden age during ruinous climate shift.
 
Susano said:
Why?
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Bunch of reasons. Initiate the not!Columbian Exchange, which will bring new crops and ideas to accelerate the timeline.

Susano said:
That sounds like some highgrade Hard Men Making Hard Decisions stuff.
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There are no Hard Men Making Hard Decision, just that it is basically unavoidable. Somewhere, sooner or later, one of the fraction in Eurasia or Africa will sail to America, because the negaverse knew the benefit of getting there.
 
...i just realized my joke about the Khemetri has somehow led to first an explanation of how to greet a cat and now to an argument (with pictures) over dog breeds...

@Academia Nut this is what happens when you give us easy votes and then take too long* to update :p

All that salt from the palace argument is just being channeled into pet arguments, and all because the damn Khemetri are hogging the cats! :V

*and by too long i of course mean "the normal time for updates, given that you have other things to do and its not even been that long, we just were all agreed on the vote for once" :p
 
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