Sure. Let's go with "expensive". Certainly, at 5-7 Main Actions for 1 Stability, it couldn't be called cheap.
Well, the Stability gain is just the cherry on top due to Divine Stewards (and we'd also get a payout from Stone Age Canal). The primary benefits of the Dam are elsewhere. Probably boosts to Econ-related actions, plus construction experience. And with our level of development, maybe boosts to hydro power.

Well, I refuse to do something as reckless as starting TWO megaprojects unless we've cleared out everything else that could distract us.
Well, the Stability boost wouldn't necessarily be wasted, you know. We can enter a Golden Age beforehand, start the double projects, then take in refugees before they finish. Golden Age can be maintained at any positive Stability.
 
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All im saying is that there a good chance marial overflow when we take in stallion and we could use a way to get rid of some marial other then make a new merc
 
But no targets. The only people besides us at the coast are nomads and Trelli. Nomads are dirt poor and can just move away, and we still need Trelli as trading hub.

And if we raid in the Lowlands, we'll just start yet another war.
Thats just one more reason to take Trelli
Think of all the new people and ideas we could get exposed to from access to the not mediterranean
 
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Your current traits preclude raiding outside of the process of formal war against someone you have a valid casus belli against. This is mostly because the People go to war as one, so some lads heading out to do their own thing only happens when Martial is high enough that the state can't control them all.
 
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Well, the Stability gain is just the cherry on top due to Divine Stewards (and we'd also get a payout from Stone Age Canal). The primary benefits of the Dam are elsewhere. Probably boosts to Econ-related actions, plus construction experience. And with our level of development, maybe boosts to hydro power.

Pretty much the only major source of renewable energy in the modern era until the recent development of solar and wind energy. Also serve as a mean to store energy for later use through pumped hydro power. We could probably build some windmills that pump up water for later use.

Let's face it, if we do make our great Not! Black Sea Empire that's the best place to set up a capitol and it lets us smack the slave trade in the balls, so yeah pretty much a good idea to do one day

I prefer means of diplomatic annexation rather than conquest, which takes forever, but doesn't aggravate the increasing militarism of the Ymaryn.
 
Thats just one more reason to take it
If you're talking about using raids to deliberately drop Martial, then you're deliberately sending men out to die, King David style.

If we have a good reason to fight, then edging away from our Martial cap may be a side benefit. But it shouldn't be our primary motivation. Better to Support Subordinate or something.

@Academia Nut If we found a new March several turns *before* integrating the Stallions, will any of the Stallions go there after integration?
 
If you're talking about using raids to deliberately drop Martial, then you're deliberately sending men out to die, King David style.

If we have a good reason to fight, then edging away from our Martial cap may be a side benefit. But it shouldn't be our primary motivation. Better to Support Subordinate or something.

@Academia Nut If we found a new March several turns *before* integrating the Stallions, will any of the Stallions go there after integration?
Thats just one more reason to take Trelli
Think of all the new people and ideas we could get exposed to from access to the not mediterranean
 
Probably because we have designs on the MW and the empty Hathyn land which will cause us to slowly enroach on them until they are forced to join us either peacefully or forcibly. Plus if we set up a trading post there then in due time that post will want to become a colony because thats the nature of things.
 
Your current traits preclude raiding outside of the process of formal war against someone you have a valid casus belli against. This is mostly because the People go to war as one, so some lads heading out to do their own thing only happens when Martial is high enough that the state can't control them all.
How exactly does the Red Banner fit into this? Or is "they're paying us to kill people" enough of a valid cassus beli?
 
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Well, the Stability boost wouldn't necessarily be wasted, you know. We can enter a Golden Age beforehand, start the double projects, then take in refugees before they finish. Golden Age can be maintained at any positive Stability.
I never said it was? :confused:
Nothing stops us from using any of our multitude of stability options to get down to 2 or less before we finish the project; in fact, it would probably be harder to end at max stability.

That doesn't make getting to full stability in the first place any easier, however.
 
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