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here is the third part of the bronze age collapse as the last video that was linked was old

Do we have any defenses if the sea people show up? Either they are Invaders or unpaid mercenaries or whatever. If it doesn't happen then it would be better to be prepared just in case.

Though, it would be cool if we were the sea people instead and attacked everyone when they were weak. Doesn't really fit us though.
 
china turned some provinces private but others still full-scale command economy? interesting. sauce?

The economic reforms of deng xiaoping, targeting the western cities and then slowly expanding, and most importantly, maintaining Hong Kong and Macau as hubs of private interprise whilst the rest of the country was planned economy.

This stuff is rather general you can get a good idea googling it. As for more indepth sources, I sadly cannot help as I haven't really touched China focused Academia. Maybe someone else in the thread got a good recommendation?
 
Ok, by word of AN I will change my secondaries, any arguments for the options?
I think we should integrate the Stallions since we can't guarantee we'll have time once it becomes critical to do so and we don't have indications that it will cause admin strain to reach critical levels.
 
It's what China did, and unlike the other communist regimes that liberalised large scale , the reds still rule there.
Bad sheep. You don't compare two events from vastly different time periods, with different events surrounding them and an enormous difference in technology, and use that to predict an outcome.
 
Speculators aren't doing nothing, as much as they are detested, if what they were doing was lazy or unskilled, then every Joe and Bob would be doing it.
Never said it was unskilled but they are managing to evade taxes while living well off without doing any hardwork which our society is based on. We need more temples and a stronger central government to experiment with privatisation. It will happen anyway so just be a bit more patient.
 
Though, it would be cool if we were the sea people instead and attacked everyone when they were weak. Doesn't really fit us though.
We literally have already done this to the Xoh and also have quasi done this to the Hath and it's possible that the econ and wealth damage to a already struggling Highlanders could finish them off eventually.

Over the course of the last two centuries it has become a better fit for us, double annexation of the Hath, as well as open war with them, open war with the Highlanders and the complete annihilation of Xoh and a war against their successors. We are very much closer to being the Sea People's
 
Do we have any defenses if the sea people show up? Either they are Invaders or unpaid mercenaries or whatever. If it doesn't happen then it would be better to be prepared just in case.

Though, it would be cool if we were the sea people instead and attacked everyone when they were weak. Doesn't really fit us though.
You might not have been here, but when we were getting sea raids from the Hathatyn, we built boats to outnumber them 4 to 1. We are definitely sea people.
 
Do we have any defenses if the sea people show up? Either they are Invaders or unpaid mercenaries or whatever. If it doesn't happen then it would be better to be prepared just in case.

Though, it would be cool if we were the sea people instead and attacked everyone when they were weak. Doesn't really fit us though.

We ARE the sea people.
 
maintaining Hong Kong and Macau as hubs of private interprise
Maintained HK a world-capitol of the financial sector as a result of the british influence + macau, originally owned by the portuguese for ~400 years. Neither of these are good examples of having side-by-side, same country provinces with differing economic systems, imo.

The special economic zones are a better example, though they were driven much more by foreign investment than internal capitalism. As far as I can tell, from wikipedia, the shift toward mixed free-market/regulation that characterizes china was otherwise country-wide and scope-segmented rather than geographically limited but total.

But thx.

Bad sheep. You don't compare two events from vastly different time periods, with different events surrounding them and an enormous difference in technology, and use that to predict an outcome.
Personally, I think you can and should. Obviously, you should speculate as to differences that the technology and intervening external polities might result in, however.

We ARE the sea people.
Yeah, we pretty much own our entire bay. Only the Trell could compete and their setup is such that they neither want nor can afford to.
 
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Never said it was unskilled but they are managing to evade taxes while living well off without doing any hardwork which our society is based on. We need more temples and a stronger central government to experiment with privatisation. It will happen anyway so just be a bit more patient.
No, they aren't. Not any more than the prostitutes are getting well off by avoiding hard work.
 
You might not have been here, but when we were getting sea raids from the Hathatyn, we built boats to outnumber them 4 to 1. We are definitely sea people.
Wasn't the 4 to 1 thing just from an omake? I remember it coming up a few times and asking for a WoG on it, without anyone finding it, and then when i was going thru the negaverse omakes again, the Hath negaverse omake had that bit, so i think it might have just been people remembering that...
 
The people avoiding hard work are the people paying others to do their quotas.

These "stock brokers" are simply accountants taking advantage of our heterogenous provincial laws and taxes.
 
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No, they aren't. Not any more than the prostitutes are getting well off by avoiding hard work.
False since that is considered a hobby to supplement income and is regulated(taxed). The traders aren't regulated hence the need for the Law since our society has advanced past them.
 
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Do we have any defenses if the sea people show up? Either they are Invaders or unpaid mercenaries or whatever. If it doesn't happen then it would be better to be prepared just in case.

Though, it would be cool if we were the sea people instead and attacked everyone when they were weak. Doesn't really fit us though.
We got the longships for it lets do it
glorious raids away
 
As in from 1-10 how suicidal. 1 being ordering pineapple pizza and 10 being a fusilier in napoleon grand armee after crossing the vistula.
We're at Centralisation 4 right now and your original plan would take us to Centralisation 0.
AN: Warning, hitting 0 Centralization will cause the government to reform as a City State Confederacy, likely triggering a civil war and societal collapse due to pre-existing tensions
 
It is worth remembering that integrating the stallions means we lose their 2 actions, in return for only one province action. In practice, this means that we have to build the temple they would have built, we have to do the war actions they would have done, etc.

Combined with the admin problems, I'm starting to feel that perhaps holding in favor of more palace actions could be a better idea.
 
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