Even if it does catch fire, it still make sense to establish a March there.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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Even if it does catch fire, it still make sense to establish a March there.
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- his hidden lair
A few years isn't necessarily that long. Even a nomad chief realizes the benefits of trading if it means getting more metal for chariots three times in the time it takes the kids to be old enough to drive one versus only a single time.
They're going to hunt for food anyways anyways, spend a little more time doing it and have the kids collect amber and *bam* you've got everything you need to trade.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Er...I think you need to update your post there; you weren't quoting me.
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- Illinois
That's about the time it already takes, give or take a decade or so. 14 updates between the end of the pre-iron nomad war and the current nomad invasion, to be exact.
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ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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- Australia
Better to have surplus defence than unguarded trade.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Preeeeeeety much.
Really? Seems more frequent.
14/2 7ish main turns, about 140 years. Hmm.
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
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- United States
Hmmm, I am looking at the thread policies...
and I just think to myself, "Man, that's really low for a thread so fueled by pseudo politics and has over 2000 pages"
and I just think to myself, "Man, that's really low for a thread so fueled by pseudo politics and has over 2000 pages"
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- Illinois
Part of that is due to the minor nomad incursions, which lasted about 2-3 turns after the end of the last war, which was then followed by a lull where we get used to no nomads. Then the nomads start moving in again a bit before another horde emerges and the cycle repeats.
@Academia Nut
What actions can provinces not take while on Balanced?
Likely:
1) Anything that costs stability or legitimacy
2) Megaprojects
3) New Province
4) Establish Periphery State
Anything else?
I know they have different priorities, but I'm trying to understand why our admin king switched to Megaproject Support there instead of starting a golden age.
What actions can provinces not take while on Balanced?
Likely:
1) Anything that costs stability or legitimacy
2) Megaprojects
3) New Province
4) Establish Periphery State
Anything else?
I know they have different priorities, but I'm trying to understand why our admin king switched to Megaproject Support there instead of starting a golden age.
I don't think that we can have the nomads start exploiting the north for resources and still have them act as nomads. Inevitably, some of them will settle the area to better harvest the materials. Soon after that, the nomads that settled that area will become a separate civilization in their own right.
- Location
- Illinois
Nomads can't really settle down in the steppes though. Land is too dry to support enough crops, and any group that did settle would then become a target for the other nomad groups.
Nomads only settle after conquering other civs really.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Which is to our benefit really because they will fight off the nomads around them in order to monopolize trade with us. We can work with an actual settled civ. Granted it might take a few fitful starts before a strong enough tribe succeeds, especially since we can't help directly.
E: And yeah environment too. Forgot that.
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1.) Correct
2.) Generally correct (technically if there is nothing else to do during a megaproject they can kick in, but that seems unlikely), and absolutely correct for actually starting a megaproject
3.) They can if there are no further places to build a settlement and it wouldn't disrupt centralization
4.) Absolutely correct
- Location
- Illinois
If you don't mind, @Academia Nut how does the current king evaluate our mystic hero's insights into what he knows best (martial and diplo)?
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Can you clarify what you mean by disrupt centralization? Do you mean send us into the red for our gov type?
Because I would rate lowering it as a disruption.
Doesn't a new province always cost Cent?
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Send you into a low yellow.
Maybe road building is an action that could be automated given enough actions.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Thank you!
[X] [Curr] Yes, in Valleyhome
[X] [Horse] Crush it
[X] [Infra] Build aqueduct in Sacred Forest (-4 Econ, +4 Econ Expansion, increased True City threshold)
[X ] [Hero] Provide sponsorship (Main Study Tailings under Mystic Hero, possible Legitimacy loss, possible Religious Authority loss)
[X] [Horse] Crush it
[X] [Infra] Build aqueduct in Sacred Forest (-4 Econ, +4 Econ Expansion, increased True City threshold)
[X ] [Hero] Provide sponsorship (Main Study Tailings under Mystic Hero, possible Legitimacy loss, possible Religious Authority loss)
Any plausible theories historians could make about why the Ymaryn so peaceful and so different from other civilizations?
Kinda redundant vote with near unanimity on what to do next.
Kinda redundant vote with near unanimity on what to do next.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Initial Isolation from outsiders with a low initial population while living in hills fertile enough to support that population let them develop altruistic tendencies when they started producing more than they needed.
And the new civilization will immediately start being raided by nomads.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Rather than a river valley in plains, the Ymaryn originated in a hilly and heavily forested river valley. This kept their populations much more physically constrained and forced early evolution of pro-social mechanisms, before the advent of slavery and the warrior caste. Furthermore, the forested hills resulted in both terracing and forestry being discovered very early on, to control run-off and soil erosion. The sort of wide-ranging work required to maintain their system of agriculture made slavery impractical, and encouraged importing additional people from their neighbors via gifts and diplomatic overtures, reinforcing an altruism-based method of importing population from outsiders.
- Location
- Germany
Have you guys considered to simple raise our cap?
After all AN confirmed that our stats cap depends the size of our territory, which is why our cap is at 14 ( 7 provinces*2),
Therefore I would like to suggest something like this as an overarching plan
1. Build NE March to lower our Martial
2. Absorb the Stallions
3. Build double main trails after our Cent is lowered from the new provinces
4. Build a March north of the Stallion tribes
5. Absorb our colony
6. Build double main trails after our Cent is lowered from the new provinces
7. Build a march north of the western wall
8. build a colony west of the western wall
9. Build double main trails after our Cent is lowered from the new provinces
10. Absorb Hatriver March, who would probably be pretty swoll by then
11. Enforce our laws across the Hatriver,
That way we can safely expand our territory & thus our cap & action economy, while staying save from the nomads
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