Do you have a source? I don't remember that.
Paths of Civilization
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Just expand east across the hills. Guaranteed new province. No defense woes
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I can take a look, if I find it, but can't promise anything, as I need to go to work soon, however if I remember it right, it was answered in relation to something @BungieONI asked
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Here you go. Not all stats and just Econ then.
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And no infrastructure, half of the reason for my plan is, that the marches & colonies will take the infrastructure actions that we are to lazy/greedy for,
Also there will be defences woes since Nomads can also come from the east & we have no March there to take care of the problem
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??? But that makes no sense, why shouldn't our martial and our diplo score rise alongside it
@Academia Nut can you explain why new provinces only raise the Econ cap ?
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The other caps are also raised.
Hills being a very solid terrain to build on against nomads, not concerned.
Laziness...absorbing the ST is liable to make things far worse on that end due to defensive overextension.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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I like the plan, but I don't actually think it's laziness or greed. We simply don't have enough actions per turn to do everything we'd like to do.
Which is the main reason I like the plan. More actions gets us closer to achieving all our priorities.
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Here you go
Not as good as Walls+Towers+Forests, which is what a MArch would do & what is an hard earned battle to archieve with the thread
Which is why we would expand in the same Turn
Build NE MArch + Absorb Stallions
Then next turn
Double main roads
Then afterward
Build North of the Stallion tribes a New March + absorb the Western Wall
Double Main roads again
and finally build a March north of the Western wall + founding a colony west of the western wall
These are 5 turns worth of action, that do not need to be chained & can be taken with breaks in between
BungieONI
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I think if we pop out the NE March they will handle their internal trails connections, mostly because of few rivers, and then we can focus on connecting them up with the main body and fixing our internal trail problem.
This all is part of the delicate dance of logistics we have to deal with right now.
Questions to the thread. Is our coastal logistics for the provinces Southshore, Northshore, Redshore, and Blackriver sufficient for the next three main turns? How about our internal land and riverine connections for the Inland Provinces; Valleyhome, Sacred Forest, Stonepen, Redhills?
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
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Even getting one turn of that out is asking a lot, you have a lot more faith in the voter base than I do. That is 100% for sure.Here you go
Not as good as Walls+Towers+Forests, which is what a MArch would do & what is an hard earned battle to archieve with the thread
Which is why we would expand in the same Turn
Build NE MArch + Absorb Stallions
Then next turn
Double main roads
Then afterward
Build North of the Stallion tribes a New March + absorb the Western Wall
Double Main roads again
and finally build a March north of the Western wall + founding a colony west of the western wall
These are 5 turns worth of action, that do not need to be chained & can be taken with breaks in between
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- United States of America, Michigan
We already have a professional army with our warrior clans who spend all their time training instead of splitting it between farming and training. What AN (as the heroic martial king) said double main expand warriors will do is create 'professional citizen soldiers' which is an oxymoron since professional and citizen soldiers (militia) are different things.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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Hey burning a few humans isn't that bad. We did entertain similar idea when we were in deep shit.
Didn't we just built a grand temple?
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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we have 8 provinces <3
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- Austria
Not quite: more provinces also means harder-to-maintain balance of politicans and more fires to put out and more strained communications and administration.
pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
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Size is also good for communication and ensuring cultural homogeneity, as being able to simply move more people and goods balances the lower speed.
Noting that bare hills are actually better defenses against Nomads than Walls + Towers + Sparse forests like we have in the Stallion Tribes. It flat out makes their main strategy and unit type unusable.
Yeah hell no. That's definite overextension into the Steppes right when the cavalry transition is about to start.
Just walk across the hills eastwards and commit to building some light walls by hand or by Balanced.
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Speed is better for communications from the central government towards the northern provinces and periphery states which is what I'm aiming for. Speed plus size would probably happen after the thread achieves long boats.
We need that relay network built, which we could get by building watchtowers and extensive roads.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
I also feel that leapfrogging Marches are probably going to have significant issues socially. Not only are you sending out large quantities of warriors with a mandate to do their own thing with the plan of reabsorbing them in a few generations, you're also trying to reabsorb long spun off marches like the Stallions which have different values. That seems like a recipe to crush our stability which is already low and hard to raise and might accidentally give us less Ymaryn values.
BungieONI
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Personally my take on it is that they solve the same issue, connectivity, differently. Speed carries urgent messages, while size helps with resources. I see no problem, except time and opportunity, in building designs around those. I'd prefer to add one speed to our current portability + size first but that's just me.
