Right now we have 3 amazingly effective roads for us to work on.
  1. Temple + Library, doubling down on tech
  2. Dominate trade getting ludicrous action efficiency
  3. Pumping Stab for a golden age with innovation and action efficiency
While we COULD do something speculative and exploratory, we have glut of really good known options right now (more than any other time in this quest I believe.) It's the wrong time to explore, and the right time to build.

To me, this rules out the study options. While good, we should really grab all the birds in the hand before looking in the bush.
Not sure I totally agree with the bush thing when it comes to metal at least. We have an idea poking around, I say poke it a bit harder so it sticks in their heads. Not saying we are gonna lose it or anything it just pushes it incrementally.
 
On Fyth, I'd say picking either Matron or Harvest. Mother and Fertility are both too close to the "stay at home/baby maker" idea.
 
To me, this rules out the study options. While good, we should really grab all the birds in the hand before looking in the bush.
The issue is that our Study actions are also massively boosted by Love of Wisdom.

Basically, with Balanced, anything that we're deficient in our provinces will likely take instead. They have different priorities, but right now we have 2 actions and they have 4 (though 1 is almost certainly Expand Economy due to how ridiculous it is at +4 econ for a single action)

We know they will aim to dominate trade, so we might not need to do that ourselves. It sounds like that's going to be their top priority, but we really honestly just don't know.
 
[X] [Crow] Teacher
[X] [Fyth] Harvest
[x][Main] Great Temple
[x][Secondary] Expand Snail Cultivation
[x][Secondary] Improve Festival
I think Teacher and Harvest have a good synergy in how we focus on tech and agriculture.
 
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Why risk starving unborn and born children? Many kids doesn't scale positively with near-miss on drought. Our economy was at 2 points when the drought delayed our economy gains.
Fertility covers all that. It isn't only human fertility but abundant crops and fruitful harvests.

Early vote
Vote Tally : Original - Paths of Civilization | Page 1820 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 45486-45617]
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Task: Crow
[29][Crow] Spider-Eyed
[5][Crow] Teacher

Task: Secondary
[20][Secondary] Improve Annual Festival
[10][Secondary] Study Forests
[6][secondary] Change Policy - Megaproject Support
[5][Secondary] Improve Festival
[5][Secondary] Found Trading Post - Greenshore River Mouth
[5][Secondary] Found Trading Post - Greenshore River Mouth x2
[4][Secondary] Study Metal
[2][Secondary] Improve Annual Festival x2
[2][Secondary] Expand Snail Cultivation
[2][Secondary] Build Docks
[1][secondary] Saltern - Southshore Saltern (0/6)

Task: Fyth
[21][Fyth] Harvest
[6][Fyth] Matron
[4][Fyth] Fertility
[4][Fyth] Mother

Task: Main
[29][Main] Great Temple
Total No. of Voters: 35

My Fertility goddess ;_;
 
[X] [Crow] Teacher
[X] [Fyth] Matron

[X] [Main] Great Temple
[X] [Secondary] Improve Annual Festival
[X] [Secondary] Study Metal
 
Fertility covers all that. It isn't only human fertility but abundant crops and fruitful harvests.

Early vote
Vote Tally : Original - Paths of Civilization | Page 1820 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 45486-45617]
##### NetTally 1.9.4
Task: Crow
[29][Crow] Spider-Eyed
[5][Crow] Teacher

Task: Secondary
[20][Secondary] Improve Annual Festival
[10][Secondary] Study Forests
[6][secondary] Change Policy - Megaproject Support
[5][Secondary] Improve Festival
[5][Secondary] Found Trading Post - Greenshore River Mouth
[5][Secondary] Found Trading Post - Greenshore River Mouth x2
[4][Secondary] Study Metal
[2][Secondary] Improve Annual Festival x2
[2][Secondary] Expand Snail Cultivation
[2][Secondary] Build Docks
[1][secondary] Saltern - Southshore Saltern (0/6)

Task: Fyth
[21][Fyth] Harvest
[6][Fyth] Matron
[4][Fyth] Fertility
[4][Fyth] Mother

Task: Main
[29][Main] Great Temple
Total No. of Voters: 35

My Fertility goddess ;_;
I guess no nekkid cow girl for you?

To sum up this turn:
 
[x] [Main] Great Temple
[x] [Secondary] Improve Annual Festival
[x] [Secondary] Change Policy-Mega Project Support

We can now do the Temple at full effort without anymore religious debates and I want more stab since 1 secondary is 1 main this turn
 
On Fyth, I'd say picking either Matron or Harvest. Mother and Fertility are both too close to the "stay at home/baby maker" idea.
If any women get to stay at home and not work, they're incredibly wealthy. That's not a luxury even the Ymaryn can afford on a broad scale, so no reason to fight it.

And 'baby maker'? That's an inevitably important role with high mortality rates and low lifespans. We may be better than average for our time period, but the average woman probably has 8-12 pregnancies. So you CAN'T reasonably fight baby-maker as a primary female role.
 
We won't have it immediately regardless. At least this way we're likely going to synergize with a province action, get a guaranteed increase to trade, and likely get a discovery.
Next turn is soon enough for me.

Also, my snail-folk, doesn't it make more sense to aim for Salt now, then do a Main on Snails later? Main is where the innovation is, after all. S Snails is just +1 Diplo.
 
If any women get to stay at home and not work, they're incredibly wealthy. That's not a luxury even the Ymaryn can afford on a broad scale, so no reason to fight it.

And 'baby maker'? That's an inevitably important role with high mortality rates and low lifespans. We may be better than average for our time period, but the average woman probably has 8-12 pregnancies. So you CAN'T reasonably fight baby-maker as a primary female role.
You completely missed the point in both regards.
 
Next turn is soon enough for me.

Also, my snail-folk, doesn't it make more sense to aim for Salt now, then do a Main on Snails later? Main is where the innovation is, after all. S Snails is just +1 Diplo.
And half way to Dominant. We only need a main from what AN has said I think.
 
Oh Inb4 the Matron vs Patriarchy vs womens rights vs stay at home/make babies gets too heated. Cause that's gonna be the issue of this vote I can tell. I'd just point out that at this day and age smart women ran the household and could direct their men like puppets pretty easily. Just a note.
 
So, the Build Docks gives us 3+ diplomacy, expand our trading power, for the costs of 1 econ for a main action. Holy cow!
 
Okay, in time to do a partial analysis, which is nice. Going to do the options first to get a word in sidewise.

First, Shaman riots:
Which aspect of Crow?
[] [Crow] Teacher

Emphasis on passing down wisdom and traditions.
Risks of weakening the discovery element.

[] [Crow] Trickster

Challenging assumptions and preconceptions.
Emphasis on the discovery elements, but also inherently makes challenging social norms acceptable.

[] [Crow] Devourer

Destroyer and devourer. The one who deals with the unclean things. This is the aspect most likely to be demonized over time.

[] [Crow] Spider-Eyed

All of the Above. Focus on Crow as a mystery.

Which aspect of Fythhagyna?
[] [Fyth] Mother

Focus on the role of the mother and childbirth.
The "Be fruitful and multiply" option, which simultaneously enshrines a holy role for women...and also blocks them most heavily from social advancement by focusing on giving birth as the most important thing.

Personally dislike this.

[] [Fyth] Matron

Focus on the role of the Elder, the family head and source of wisdom. Promotes womens' role as Clan leaders, which, if you may recall, we got by matronymics.
Also has some conservativism baked in. Matrons are not known for being openminded and flexible.

[] [Fyth] Harvest

Focus on her role as the Farmer's god and enshrines their cultural importance. This will have some conflicts with cities and their growing non-agricultural importance, while in the iron age, most of the power still stems from the land's productivity.

I personally dislike this as it focuses on "what does nature give you" rather than "what can you do for nature"

[] [Fyth] Fertility

Focus on her role as nature goddess, which has some strong affinity with being in Sacred Forest, where the vitality of nature is strongly evident. This reinforces the Environmentalism aspect of Divine Stewards.

Oh and she's very often naked here, so if that's what you want...

Notable options:
Build Docks - With large numbers of ships being built, a new place to store them all, the goods they bring in, and a place to build them might be a good idea
*S: -1 Econ, +2 Diplo, potential for new innovations
*M: -1 Econ, +3 Diplo, increased potential for new innovations, increased trade power
Main Docks increases our trade power, as we can get goods to the trade partners in greater bulk.

It's a VERY efficient way to generate Diplomacy.
Expand Vineyard - There is a location in Blackriver that is judged an ideal place to grow the small fruits that are favoured for making a particularly potent drink
*S: -1 Econ, -1 Econ Expansion, +2 Diplo next turn
*M: -1 Econ, -1 Econ Expansion, +2 Diplo
We can build even more vineyards, so it might be desirable to max this out before we plant over the rest of the location.
Improve Annual Festival - A festival for every season, but their expansion can help put the People at ease and teach good practices.
* M: -2 Econ, +1 Stability, +1 Art chance for additional effects
* 2M: -3 Econ, +1 Stability, +3 Art, chance for additional effects
* Max Stability: Legitimacy - 1

Special: Due to acquiring a new luxury, the Improve Festival action is currently twice as action efficient (1S = 1M, 1M = 2M)
Festival is twice as efficient. This might be a VERY good time to Main Festival while we have the multiplier. We have the Econ for it.
New Trails - There are many settlements with only marginal trails, so more could be useful
* S: -1 Econ, +1 Centralization, other effects
* M: -1 Econ, +1 Centralization, +1 Diplo, other effects
Still marginal, which is needed for connectivity.

SO my vote for now:
[X] [Crow] Spider-Eyed
[X] [Fyth] Fertility
[X] [Main] Great Temple
[X] [Secondary] Improve Annual Festival
[] [Secondary] Improve Annual Festival x2
[X][Secondary] Study Forests

We should take advantage of the wine bonus while it's a novel idea, and get double benefit from Festivals. Once people get used to it, it'd decline in power no doubt.
This leaves us 1 Proclaim Glory away from Golden Age trigger.
E: Tactical Foresting.
 
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