Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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- Original
- Location
- Philippines
Hah the vote is done, finished, over what we should be discussing is what we will do next turn not spend all this time needlessly squabling was the vote risky yes but we have to make do with what we get.
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Others have already said it, but seriously, stop with the deliberate misrepresentation of peoples reasoning. I've barely skimmed through the recent pages and it was abundantly clear that those pushing for a tie were neither malicious nor attempting to "disrupt the quest for no reason other than to disrupt the quest."
wait...dang it, somehow i'd gotten two of the turns mixed up in my head...
As for riots...i think Andres summed it up well:
I'm pretty sure most contentious votes end up with AN commenting something like that, or with the update fluff mentioning fierce arguments...
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
Sorry the thread has hit the stability threshold.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
When the Roman empire was trying to hash out christian doctrine, at least one bishop lost an eye during the frequent fist fights.
It's not malicious, calm down. A few people liked the idea, they're allowed to vote for what they like even if it upsets you.
Also, you should probably stop being upset before AN has given us any reason to be.
- Location
- Australia
Again, shaman riot. Despite how important that sounds, they're actually pretty unimportant.
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA, United States
I asked AN and he didn't answer. It's a matter of practicality to me, unless Crow merges with Mathulmyn an alien, trickster god will be hard for people to relate to.
The last one I remember was in AoS and that went fine.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
There were a hundred people voting and, what, five or ten of them decided that it should be a tie? Then they were outvoted ninety to ten for "not a tie". Kingmaker flip-flopping doubles the apparent weight of a voter, an effect which is amplified even further in already close vote. Attempting to force a tie in this manner exploits the structure of the vote to undermine the fairness of the results. If they wanted a tie, they should have voted for "tie".
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Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
I remember Predator Quest. We got so fucked up.
Yeah, I've had that happen to me a few times.
We've asked for various changes to the voting a few times, but AN likes the salt and it's a representation of the real world.
See: the Voting Moratorium Initiative. Specifically, its complete and utter failure.
Fierce arguments and slap fights are on a completely different level from literally sending in soldiers to break up the riots.
Still, this has a lot of potential. In both directions.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
- Location
- Lickwidget
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- She/Her
Ah something useful. If Crow and Fatha (can't remember her full name right now) "marry" that will also give something like the effect you are looking for, same as what you voted for. I figure this since Fatha is a earth goddess and those are easy to understand.
- Location
- Hell
If you want to vote for something, go ahead and vote for it. However don't change your vote for comedy.
If they liked the idea, they should have run through with it and asked AN. Not comandeer the other votes for their own purpose. I voted for Crow and just Crow.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
That logic is equally functional about strategic voting of any sort.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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- within 2 hours of the White House
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- They/Them
Since it got lost in the mess, and I'm ready to not be stressed, thoughts on this concept?
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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- Anywhere but RL
I'm fairly sure there isn't any rules against voting in a certain way nor changing vote. So if it isn't outlawed then it's fine.
Being acceptable or not is an entirely different argument.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
Depends, are you a wise student of Crow, one of the misguided farmer of fathy, or A heretical follower of both?
Besides, it's actually fairly historically accurate. Creating two sides that are entirely ossified to allow a small subset of voters to seize the "swing power" and be the real drivers of politics is something that has happened before. Many times. Even today.
#Machiavelli
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BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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- Lickwidget
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- She/Her
Totally feasible. And if you spread that concept to the Universe is ready to fuck you over if you screw up it means our space safety when we get there will be really up to above par.
Voted for Crow a long while back a
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Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
Yes? Strategic voting is bad. There's an entire field of math dedicated to figuring it out and devising better schemes for reducing its effects. Intentionally exploiting strategic voting for shits and giggles like we just saw is blatantly exploitative. We don't go out and recruit people from other threads to copy-paste votes, we don't post falsified tallies to influence opinions, and we don't vote strategically.
I would argue that this falls afoul of Rule 4, "Don't be disruptive".
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- Location
- Australia
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
I think of it as being more like Crow the unknowable, tripart, and lonely figures out that he likes this one innocent great granddaughter (kinda) of his and is like "she's actually nice." And then she makes him more relatable to the people, more knowable to them.
Or the whole persephone thing but reversed where she sees a crow and abuses it until he loves her.