Unfortunately due to the Steppe population density they're highly resistant to most epidemics because theres nobody to pass diseases to.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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They are congregating together to attack us.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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Yeah but that's in nomad camps. Still not exactly a dense form of settlement.
Not even then. It's more like...3-4 clans meet up and then attack, then disperse, and another 3-4 clans have their go as they arrive.
ABalloonyChaos
Drifts wherever the wind may take me.
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- USA, up in the air.
I am find my self actually having to wait for the update to this tread. I'm not quite sure of what to do with the time. Deciding next turn plans are utterly pointless as our future will depend heavily on how the battle goes or what else happens. There is also probably not enough time to really focus on an omake without new, at least for what would need( get distracted easily).Well I could talk about other things... I listened to some songs/ seen stuff on youtube and elsewhere that might be appropriate for our civilization and how weirdly we been developing.
Now let me see if can get the video up. Not exactly sure the best way to do it so putting it in spoiler in case of fail. Can you see it clearly? If so behold what may be a good approximation of the battle song of our people.
What do you think Greater than our Wood Dawelf spaghetti or a bit away from what you were thinking?
- If we have the stability for it: Waagh! It's the only thing that makes sense with our traits.
- If we do not: pay tribute, get stability and economy, then Waagh!
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They're Scythians, not Mongols.
I know they're not mongols. I am specifically talking about a force based on the mongol.
@DragonParadox wants to be the not!romans, to keep sending armies of soldiers one defeat after another.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- Germany
*Looks at the last update few updates where we kicked ass through sheer numbers*
You want even more dudes ???
Why not? Zerg rush of elite soldiers.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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corruption of our society to a militaristic and patriarchal stance? No thx.
And how peaceful and egalitarian do you imagine we will be if we get conquered by nomads and they become our new martial/political elite?
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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assumes we'll lose, gl w/ that
I feel like this might still result in the warriors being elite warriors, tho tbh idr the stat conversion for this
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It's a common pattern of what happens to sedentary civilizations abutting the steppes if they do not maintain military superiority on the nomads. I'd rather have our homegrown martial elites (as they are now because make no mistake they are pushing us towards social inequality) over conquering barbarians.
We are compensating. Carrion Eaters are an elite category with the express purpose of reducing losses.
Also you need to be clearer on the pseudo nobles. We're packing the following at present:
-Nobles - Chiefs, Political families with a history of leadership. Main source of chiefs and kings.
-Clerks - Administrator families. They don't do the direct political power thing, but they DO allocate all resources and teach their children how to tax people.
-Warriors - Warrior families. They fight good and teach their children to fight good.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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*shrug* and I'd rather have more walls and watchtowers over both
Walls and watchtowers can't defend the farmers, only provide early warning and a place of temporary safety.
We're actually established enough through tradition and a strong bureaucracy that we're probably never going to end as martial-focused as the worst 'martial elite' cultures. Magwyna and son are tough examples to ignore and the honour trait is pretty well mitigated by our other traits- the earlier Stallion Tribe leaders probably didn't even share all of them and they actually toed the line shockingly well.
I agree that we need to be careful in what martial-building actions we take, but we certainly can't avoid them forever in fear of societal change. If we're trying to avoid elites, I'd suggest laying off the 'Build Chariots' action in particular for a while, as chariot archers specifically are a 'train from birth' position that particularly risks establishing martial-focused hereditary nobles. (As opposed to the administration-focused hereditary nobles we've already got.)
'Expand Warriors' is probably pretty safe though.
I agree that we need to be careful in what martial-building actions we take, but we certainly can't avoid them forever in fear of societal change. If we're trying to avoid elites, I'd suggest laying off the 'Build Chariots' action in particular for a while, as chariot archers specifically are a 'train from birth' position that particularly risks establishing martial-focused hereditary nobles. (As opposed to the administration-focused hereditary nobles we've already got.)
'Expand Warriors' is probably pretty safe though.
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Iron should unlock melee elites as well. And there's still the Carrion Eaters and Blackbirds.