Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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[X] Send an envoy to request the Thunder Speakers rein in youths (-2 Diplomacy, chance of TS king actually complying, small chance of triggering war)
[x] Support son (chance of -1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
Looks like a good vote to me
[x] Support son (chance of -1 Legitimacy, heir becomes Yehlmyn [Mediocre Martial, Good Diplomacy, Heroic Admin])
Looks like a good vote to me
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
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That's more of a jealousy /passiveness thing I would hazard
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
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Fidelity of the females is universal yes, but the expectations of male fidelity is distinctly abrahamic.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Which would be a lot more reassuring were the Xohyssiri not currently under the thumb of the Thunderjerks*, and might not be able to control who they fight.
*Not to be confused with the Thunderfriends, who are also under control of Thunderjerks.
I dunno, a human refinding love on their deathbed is a pretty common romantic plot. It could happen.
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- Mists of Albion
Even when the person near death is already married, in love, completely faithful and the person they are falling in love with is much younger? (Please remember that Mag was in her fourties when she was elected in, this turn happened after half a generation after that and the brides are young enough to take her son as a lover, so unless you like wrinkled old ladies having sex with twenty or so year olds I'd try not to push for it anymore)
You seem to be a sucker for bad romance plots, so I'm just going to say that you can make that your headcannon if you want to daydream.
But it didn't happen.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
A person moving on from their lover who died thirty years prior with a new relationship? Heck yeah I run into that. Less common with a same-sex couple and an age gap, but I've seen weirder.
Remember, lack of proof that something happened is not proof that something didn't happen.
I would be amazed if you had any, though, given that we haven't even reached the neccesary "deathbed" stage yet.
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- Mists of Albion
I just had a sad thought.
The son has slept with several of his mothers wives, having children with them, hell he might even love some of them.
The sad part is he can't be with them openly.
We could have married them to him, he could have had these women and been able to claim his children as his own, openly be with the people he loved in marriage without having to worry about insulting foreigners and other lords.
I find it sad that we denied him the ability to do this.
The son has slept with several of his mothers wives, having children with them, hell he might even love some of them.
The sad part is he can't be with them openly.
We could have married them to him, he could have had these women and been able to claim his children as his own, openly be with the people he loved in marriage without having to worry about insulting foreigners and other lords.
I find it sad that we denied him the ability to do this.
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- Mists of Albion
Her husband hasn't been dead for thirty years, where did you get that from?
She's still married to her husdand in the last update and is happy with him, she loves only one person in her life, her husband who is alive.
Every logical piece of evidence has pointed towards it not happening.
Hell! Last time it did happen it became a major part of the narrative of the update, if it happened a second time it would at least gain a passing mention. It hasn't, yet another reason to believe it didn't happen, something to add to the multitude of pieces of evidence that is only contradicted by your desire to see 'ma lesbian couple' or 'ma quirky romance plot'.
I have evidence implying it didn't happen, you don't have any evidence implying it did
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
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- United States
I don't think you understand how evidence works, Lack of evidence means that it didn't happen, you have to PROVE that it does, The burden of evidence lies on you, not mcluvinA person moving on from their lover who died thirty years prior with a new relationship? Heck yeah I run into that. Less common with a same-sex couple and an age gap, but I've seen weirder.
Remember, lack of proof that something happened is not proof that something didn't happen.
I would be amazed if you had any, though, given that we haven't even reached the neccesary "deathbed" stage yet.
So
From you, because we don't have to prove straight women are not having lesbian sex
Edit: Remember lack of proof DOES mean it most likely didn't happen it only gets blurry when your talking about ancient civs modern, and erasing evidence, but that isn't happening here
Were not, only the fringe groups far away from our core will think it was nepotism because our core KNOWS it wasn't because they think him competent, they are only waiting for the mother to endorse like they always do before the vote.
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Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
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It's extremely unlikely, and by the update its far more likely that she did not, as she doesn't care that her own son is getting it in with em. Especially since its unlikely that shes homosexual or bi.
Yes, that's the specific definition being made there. Polyamorous relationships are unusual, but not forbidden, because while it's hard to juggle to everyone's happiness, it can be done. Cheating in a relationship is forbidden because it spawns strife.
Actually odds are the very next time we have an opportunity for a megaproject the long pent up Dam voters are going to release their frustrations in a single great surge, damn the consequences. We're reaching the point where they won't even buy "one more turn is the best timing" anymore.
Taxation efficiency, manpower application efficiency, corruption resistance and law enforcement are all elements here. A census makes resources significantly more available than usual, as normally you'd need to lowball things significantly to account for inefficiencies.
Silver is the color your hair gets when you have black hair and are greying over time.
White is when you are so old theres not a trace of pigment left.
It's a trust thing. Betrayal of trust is a major problem in every functional society.
Well...Stability drops and refugees...
Romv
A Memory of TREES
If the update'd mentioned anything about it, Omegahugger wouldn't have had to ask, now would they?
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
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I mean, her own son having sex with her wives Heavily implies that she doesn't care or isn't in love with them
But I don't think it'd matter because Omega seems to be.... VERY VERY keen on our leader being homosexual or bi.
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- Mists of Albion
Because it was an unnecessary question that answers itself.
It's been jumped because it's basically just him trying to ship and screw with a nice part of a good character because of 'ma lesbian'
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
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- United States
It would be fine if he just said he'd ship it, but hes trying to prove that shes lesbian or bi when evidence points the other way... other wise I wouldn't say anything because shipping happens, people ship
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- Hell
And with the fact that we right on clay tablets, we are literally cooking the books
Nope, Heroic Admin. We don't get to choose and he will make pushes toward what he is good at. So more econ and expansion
Nooooooooo
Relationship is about trust. Infidelity rises when not all parties agree upon a relationship. Hiding it doesn't stop it from being infidelity. Convincing the other person to accept your infidelity, doesn't stop it from being infidelity.
Everyone has to agree beforehand to bringing another person into a relationship or else it is infidelity. Even Open Relations have to do this to avoid venereal diseases
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Okay, I could've sworn her husband died alongside her children in the initial update, but I cannot find any mention of that now, and therefore publically retract everything (since it was pretty much the crutch everything I said relied on).
I am an idiot.
"X hasn't happened" is a positive claim, and therefore one that needs proof.
If I had said that she had or would fall in love with a girl half her age, that would be a positive claim that needed proof. But merely saying that something could happen does not.
Of course, @McLuvin kindly pointed out that I had entirely misread a key piece of evidence, which, while technically not making the other developments impossible, certainly makes them approximately 100 times more unlikely.
And they weren't ever likely to begin with.
What's with you people and wanting the girls to have sex with each other? You realise that you don't need that for a romantic relationship, right?
I wasn't even the one who asked, I just saw something remotely shipping-related and stuck my nose in on reflex...
Correction: I am very keen on our Admin heroes being in same-sex marriages rather than them being homosexual or bi. Slight but very important difference.
The reason I reacted to this is because people seem to assume that because some of the wives-of-an-unknown-number decided to have children, it means that they all must be straight, which really bugs me.
This is really a minor point by now, but I have never argued that either Magwytha or Gwygoytha would be lesbian. Because they are clearly not.
And I've also never tried to prove anything, merely pointed that we don't actually know... Unless we assume that bisexuals actually do get magical powers, which Maggy lacks, but I've yet to see anyone use that argument.
Romv
A Memory of TREES
You being intent in turning this into a lame debate is way more annoying than someone asking the QM an innocent question.
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Maybe we'll get lucky and Yehlmyn will marry one of Attrikwyn's sons to secure ties with the March.
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- Hell
Keep in mind she suddenly married 12 other women. While I do not think she fell in love with all of them, there is still the possibility she liked one of them
*shrug*
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Did we also get an exact number on the wives?
Wow, never have I been so worthy of my self-given title as I've been these past few updates.
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
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- United States
First off not it is not a claim, we have heavy indication that she is straight, We don't have to prove a denial of her being gay or bi, You have to prove your claim that her political marriage is more than just that
Idk where Gwygoytha came into this, since I never said anything about her. Anyways we assume it because despite this world having a super massive unnaturally large percentage of homosexuals, its not that big a percentage even then, assuming heterosexuality is actually the normal thing to do >.>.
It just soooo unlikely that the unnamed princesses are gay since it assumes the vast minority is likely nevermind that the leader is Straight.
Edit: This is why we need updates, we start arguing over stupid shit
Edit2: I still dislike that I have to argue over illogical things that I don't really care about but it bugs me to assume the extreme unlikely and be disingenuous about it
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