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Maybe apply five barrier seals to the foundations of important gov / clan buildings?
Buildings are above the mass/volume limits of 5SB. Unfortunately.
To confirm, it would not be able to detect an active seal effect that extends overground through seeing chakra?
I took this to mean the exact opposite. It would see such an active seal effect. Just not the rune causing it.
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Buildings are above the mass/volume limits of 5SB. Unfortunately.
You don't need the whole building to be immovable, though, just a few key load-bearing bits. Plank of wood under each wall, cross-sectional slice of each pillar, etc. Same principle as skytowers. Once the engineering constraints are sorted out, high-security stuff will probably settle into fewer, taller buildings, and then inter-clan competitiveness will promote outlandish architecture which would be flagrantly structurally impossible without 5SBs, as a "look how many sealsmith-hours per month I can afford to permanently commit to maintenance" status display.
 
Once the engineering constraints are sorted out, high-security stuff will probably settle into fewer, taller buildings, and then inter-clan competitiveness will promote outlandish architecture which would be flagrantly structurally impossible without 5SBs, as a "look how many sealsmith-hours per month I can afford to permanently commit to maintenance" status display.
"Civilian spy can remove a single seal and collapse your entire Clan building" is probably not something that you'd want to be remotely possible. And like sure you can try to account for that... or just not make it a risk in the first place for no real advantage
 
You don't need the whole building to be immovable, though, just a few key load-bearing bits. Plank of wood under each wall, cross-sectional slice of each pillar, etc. Same principle as skytowers
You can't use the 5SB on objects that aren't discrete. So unless you want to demolish the building every month, this won't work very well.

You could still probably make something that helps support the building and 5SB it in place. But the cross-sectional shit is right out.
 
You don't need the whole building to be immovable, though, just a few key load-bearing bits. Plank of wood under each wall, cross-sectional slice of each pillar, etc. Same principle as skytowers. Once the engineering constraints are sorted out, high-security stuff will probably settle into fewer, taller buildings, and then inter-clan competitiveness will promote outlandish architecture which would be flagrantly structurally impossible without 5SBs, as a "look how many sealsmith-hours per month I can afford to permanently commit to maintenance" status display.
Ah yes, we will respond to our centralisation of power being exploited by our enemies centralising our power even FURTHER! Our sealmasters definitely aren't an exploitable weakness, nosiree
 
You can't use the 5SB on objects that aren't discrete. So unless you want to demolish the building every month, this won't work very well.

You could still probably make something that helps support the building and 5SB it in place. But the cross-sectional shit is right out.
Existing pillar could be a stack of cylindrical stone blocks. Open up a temporary gap between two of them - via Earthshaping, or just mundane structural engineering - slide an iron plate into the gap, 5SB on the plate.
 
Aren't seal effects not chakra based? I thought that's what Oro told us last talk, that chakra only powered the initial activation of the seal and the rest was Out stuff twisting reality.
Good point there, I think that it would depend on the seal, but 5SB is visible as a chakra effect, so my expectation is that while the power comes from the Out, it's used to make a chakra construct that then does the work. So the AoE detection seal creates a spherical chakra construct that when disturbed, sounds an alarm.
 
If it's load-bearing, the building will collapse while you do this.
Well-designed building will have some flexibility, redundancy, margin of safety, such that lifting one pillar by a quarter of an inch won't cause the whole structure to immediately fail. Temporary bracing could be added to keep things stable, then removed when the repair / refit is complete.
 
Aren't seal effects not chakra based? I thought that's what Oro told us last talk, that chakra only powered the initial activation of the seal and the rest was Out stuff twisting reality.
They may be powered by Out juice, but there are some like the Lightning-Chakra seal that explicitly are chakra based effects. Similarly, the pillar seal is described as a chakra construct, etc etc.
 
Well-designed building will have some flexibility, redundancy, margin of safety, such that lifting one pillar by a quarter of an inch won't cause the whole structure to immediately fail. Temporary bracing could be added to keep things stable, then removed when the repair / refit is complete.
And you don't actually need to lift the pillar. Just have a hole running through the center that you can thread a rope through. (perpendicular hole, not axial)
The seal should not normally hold any structural load, it's just a backup.

Heck. Put some activation MARS panic buttons under the hokage's desk that simultaneously activate a bunch of 5s sealed ropes run through pipes in the walls so that in an instant his office becomes much harder to dynamic entry/exit.
 
Hm. You know... if we want to make the boost to Chakdar higher in v3, we could add a sort of IFF that filters out allies based on their chakra signatures? Thus removing some of the excess noise, and allowing you to concentrate on more relevant readings?

It might be that the allies have to be present at the time of the seals infusion, so that the seal can register their chakra signatures, but it seems viable enough?
 
And you don't actually need to lift the pillar. Just have a hole running through the center that you can thread a rope through. (perpendicular hole, not axial)
The seal should not normally hold any structural load, it's just a backup.

Heck. Put some activation MARS panic buttons under the hokage's desk that simultaneously activate a bunch of 5s sealed ropes run through pipes in the walls so that in an instant his office becomes much harder to dynamic entry/exit.
I'd want it to cover the full width of any given load-bearing element whenever reasonably possible, just to make sure a pillar doesn't, say, pivot around that rope as part of buckling in a collapse. Leaving the reinforcement seals inactive most of the time makes sense, though - just bury movement-activated MARS triggers inside sub-basement walls, each linked to the 5SB or alarm system directly above it and to the next detector clockwise around the perimeter.
 
Hm. You know... if we want to make the boost to Chakdar higher in v3, we could add a sort of IFF that filters out allies based on their chakra signatures? Thus removing some of the excess noise, and allowing you to concentrate on more relevant readings?

It might be that the allies have to be present at the time of the seals infusion, so that the seal can register their chakra signatures, but it seems viable enough?
IFF will also help with homing shuriken seals, and eventual autonomous missile sealtech. 100% approved.
 
Heck. Put some activation MARS panic buttons under the hokage's desk that simultaneously activate a bunch of 5s sealed ropes run through pipes in the walls so that in an instant his office becomes much harder to dynamic entry/exit.
We need the emergency containment foam button that immobilizes everyone inside the room from Worm. It'd be doable with Goo!
 
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