Woooo another Yuno focussed update let's fucking goooooo!!
I read the plan before reading the chapter
@Shrooms , and I gotta say das good shit.
Yuno gave a warm smile. "Thank you, Hazō. Satsuko and I were worried. It happens all the time, this thing where I share my feelings and people freak out and then won't tell me why.
Awww, you precious murder-y cinnamon roll.
"Speaking of massacring civilians"–Hazō said some words he never expected or wanted to say in his life–"
Hahahaha
If humanity goes extinct, that means no more sacrifices, right?"
"Sure," Yuno said, "but it's not like that's ever going to happen."
"It's not," Hazō agreed, keeping the fierce determination out of his voice because that wasn't what this conversation was about.
Hell yeah brother!
"Mass starvation," Yuno said. "Too many predators kill too much prey, and then they starve because the prey can't breed fast enough to maintain the food source. Not enough predators, and the prey breed too much and run out of their food source, and the same thing happens. If that food source is important for other things, it can ripple out and do terrible damage to the entire habitat.
Clever girl...
(said that in Albert Wesker's voice, not for any particular reason other than the fact that I love his voice actor)
He wants me to take over Birth. Will you help me with that?"
The silence stretched a while, long enough for Yuno to notice the tracks of a greater needlemouse and make sure they gave it a wide berth.
"I'm very flattered you'd see me that way, Hazō," Yuno said carefully, "but I only want one man to father my children, and it's Noburi, the second he's old enough for the Perpendicular Anointment Ceremony and I figure out how to get the Isanese priests to brew me the Nectar of Joy."
LMAO, actually spat out my water, thanks hahahaha
NTR is a trash fetish anyway
"Then we figure out the replacement rate and sacrifice everyone who isn't needed to maintain it, and that way Lord Jashin gets the greatest possible number of births and deaths, and we don't risk any of the problems of overpopulation or decline. Hazō, that's brilliant! Of course I'll help."
Whoaaaa nah, chill fam, we're just sticking with step 1 of increasing life, nothing further.
You have to make sacrifices to Lord Jashin part of the fabric of society now, so nobody thinks to question them when the time comes for mass sacrifice, just like Akio made the rules about being cruel to the unclean, so when I was growing up, nobody thought to question them even though I almost never did anything wrong."
Why you tryna copy Akio and Isan when their shit clearly didn't work out. Like, it made you feel like shit, and I guess maybe you wanna find some reason in that, but nah. We're not copying their models.
Also, we gotta make sacrifices to Jashin now? What form does a sacrifice take, Yuno? Who are you going to sacrifice, and how are you going to pick them? What if we told you to sacrifice kids, would that be right? What if Hidan told you to?
Obviously, we'd be wrong in that situation. So there's a right and wrong way to sacrifice people, if you wanna sacrifice at all. There's a lot to discuss on the nature of sacrifice, so slow down.
Also,
we're not even interested in sacrifice. If Hazou is even remotely trying to make sense of Jashinism, it has to be something he'd believe in, and he for sure does not believe in sacrifice. The
only aspect he'd represent is more life. If he's doing that, he has no reason to be sacrificing. Jashin is clearly happy with him doing his own thing even without sacrificing. Let Hazou go his own way, and Yuno, please follow his lead if you can support him.
"Then make them," Yuno said without any particular emotion. "Nobody outside the cult accepts being sacrificed either, so you sacrifice them through force because it's what's right. Lord Jashin is already guiding you in that direction.
No, see above.
It's why all the seals you invent for the sake of Uplift are seals for killing people, not seals for, I don't know, making the soil more fertile or making women more fertile.
Hazou's kill count is low, so I don't really accept that as evidence. If we're talking about whether Hazou has overall caused more deaths or caused more lives to be saved, it's definitely the latter.
It's why he gave you Mari, who hurts people for you without ever telling you, instead of Ami, who ends wars by persuading people to be nice to each other.
OK, I'll allow it.
It's why he sent the Great Prophet to teach you about murder instead of leaving you alone to carry on with the Uplift you were already working on.
OK, I'll allow it.
"The more I talk to you about this, the more it makes sense," Yuno said with a trace of exaltation in her voice. "Everything I went through in Isan… maybe it was for this moment. Isan is defined by tradition, and my life was defined by tradition, and that's why I know that tradition is the most powerful force in the world if you can shape it, and a wall that you can't break down by being nice to people or using arguments that make sense or giving them things they ought to want.
I don't agree that tradition is the most powerful force in the world, but if you believe that it's cool and I respect your opinion, Yuno
This is how I help you–not just by killing people who need killing, but by making sense of my life in Isan and teaching you how to use the same power, but in Lord Jashin's name."
I respect that you wanna make sense of your pain and past. I don't get what power you want to teach Hazou to use, though.
Yuno mutters something under her breath on seeing Hazō's actions.
"lmao he's trying to enter combat with those stats, git gud"
"The blood," Yuno explained. "I thought at first it was lime, but it's not. It's a kind of greenish-yellow I haven't seen before. I'm going to have to go find a dye seller and ask them what it's called. Do you know how exciting that is?"
Hazō decided not to press the matter further.
Shitty brother, at least be happy for her smfh
"I take it you killed the discord pigeon?"
"Sure did,"
AYYYY, WE STOPPED THE DISCORD PIGEON FROM EVOLVING INTO THE DISCORD APP IN THIS TIMELINE!
MISSION COMPLETE LADS!
Talk to the loremasters, she said. How would Yuno feel when she learned Isan had been annihilated? Would she be heartbroken? Would she be heartbroken that she didn't get to do it herself? Hazō had no idea how to navigate the complexity of her feelings about Isan. He only knew that, whatever her reaction, he would be the one responsible, and EM OPSEC meant he'd never be able to ask her forgiveness for as long as he lived.
Hazō moved on before his expression gave anything away.
Ooof, good man.
and given Jashin's the god of Birth and Death and murder and blood and possibly peppermint tea
Hehehe
I believe it's considered evil to link to TVtropes, but this is truly "Murder, Arson and Jaywalking".
... Does MfD have a TVtropes page?
"Sorry," Yuno said. "It seems like Isan's the only place where people have taken lots of care to preserve ancient lore and don't have rules about keeping everything secret. Maybe that's another thing we can change when we take over the world."
Yes, Yuno. We'll be sure to make plenty of places
juuuuuust like Isan.
Hehehehe... AHAHAHAHAHA!
Sorry...
"So it's fine if I convert the rest of the family," she concluded. "Maybe not Kagome, because the other day I taught him a secret Isanese charm to keep the hair grease demons away, and within a week it was an Academy playground rhyme, but I certainly have to bring my husband into the cult, and I already told you what I thought about Snowflake, and then I'm sure Kei will join to support her sister-lover-whatever they are. Also, Mari has no problem with torturing and killing people for a higher cause, and I may still be unhappy with her over the whole Orochimaru thing, but I'm not the kind of cultist who'd keep the joy of Lord Jashin from someone just because they did bad things in the past."
Lmao I wanna see her trying to convert Mari to Jashin-ism, ahahahaha
Also man, she's salty about Mari's Orochimaru thing too? Smh, haters. Whatever though it's in the past and we'll leave it be.
Hazō opened his mouth to object.
"Hazō," Yuno said severely, "are you ashamed to be a cultist of Lord Jashin?"
"That's not it. It's just–"
"Do you trust the rest of our family less than you trust me?"
"...No."
"Good," Yuno said. "I finally have a family, Hazō, and I don't want to see us divided. I'll talk to Noburi tonight, once he gets back from the hospital. Now come on, we have to reach the safe zone before it gets dark and the chakra chinchilla swarms erupt."
My brother in Jashin, when she asks you if you're ashamed and being all disapproving-like just fucking say "No". He's got nothing to hide. He was doing pretty good at not being a noodle but then it just kinda hit him at the end, smfh maidenless behaviour.
I feel like Hazou was kinda not engaging with her openly which ain't right, but I see from chat it's because it's not clear what Hazou's opinion on Jashin is, so that's fine. FWIW the way I think about it is
- Jashin possibly exists because of all of the fuckery that has been pulled off when we pray to it
- We got very little idea what it wants, but the fact that it supports us means we must be doing something right, or that it digs our style
- If it's supportive of us, we'll keep doing what we think is right
- That doesn't mean we agree with anything Hidan says. We're doing our thing, he can do his.
Regarding Yuno, I fucking LOVE how she was portrayed this chapter, perfecttttt job
@Velorien
Absolutely fucking NAILED the cult-like vibe I'd expect. 10/10 portrayal, bravo!
She needs to engage with the family very heavily to get outta that headspace. I still don't understand what she's thinking nor do I get her beliefs rn. It's not making sense to me.
I wanna know what she thinks sacrificing people means. In her ideal world does she just go around randomly killing people? Are people chosen at birth to be sacrifices?
- Yuno either already talked to her husband about Jashinism or will do so tonight (depending on how above time skip worked out)
- Yuno quotes Hazō
- Noburi is horrified like never before and unable to hide it from his wife. He's also unable to reconcile with her.
Nobby is chill and already knows the many ways Yuno is fucked up in the head, I do not foresee this being his reaction at all.
- Noburi is very resentful of Hazō because Hazō carries a large amount of fault for Hidan being in Leaf and also handled the fallout miserably while subsequently retreating to the sealing lab and/or focusing on other issues. If Noburi survives that is.
I also don't see this as in-character for him tbh
- Be fully open and honest about this whole Jashin thing and Yuno's involvement with at least someone in our family as soon as freaking possible. Hazō is not the right person to solve it alone. I suggest Mari or Snowflake or both.
- After having touched ground with less involved family, actually just talk to Noburi. It's his wife and our last attempt to make things better probably just made things worse. Regardless of Jashin's true will, Gokētsu is not the Clan of indiscriminate mass human sacrifice, nor should it ever be. And yet Yuno is family. And she is most likely right about nothing ever previously having resonated with her the way Jashinism did.
It's good to be open, and for Yuno's sake it'll be good for everyone to be on the same page
I don't want a specific conversation with Noburi reaction on-screen unless QMs think that would be fun, personally I think it's boring and slow-paced again. Just move to the action-part which is shower love 'n care onto your murder cinnamon roll and get her to actually talk about this stuff with the inner family as we go about doing other things. If it doesn't make sense, it'll become more obvious with time.
Looks like just really being into killing is a core part of her and that's cool, there's plenty of ways for that to fit into this world. Still ain't no reason to butt heads.
Make it clear she's not supposed to kill other people or take egregious action outside of the family without our OK. She can talk to the inner family about her beliefs as much as she wants though, and in fact I'd generally strongly encourage it.
No.
