Remove ads

Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

Reader mode
Cariyaga said:
Yeaaah, same. It's like, I've gotta refresh the thread 15 times before I go to sleep just in case someone makes an insightful suggestion that I can chime in on before I sleep!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Plus you know that if you miss it, SOME OTHER CHEEKY BASTARD IS GONNA SAY IT FIRST because y'all are a bunch of clever assholes :p
 
eaglejarl said:
If it helps, I'm going to bed now and the post is maybe 1/3 written. Expect it no earlier than mid-afternoon tomorrow, more likely sometime in the evening.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Like I said, I'm not actually waiting for the story update.

I'm mostly split between wanting to see the next clever idea that comes up in the thread, and wanting to know what the final verdict on modular sealing is.
 
Jello_Raptor said:
Like I said, I'm not actually waiting for the story update.

I'm mostly split between wanting to see the next clever idea that comes up in the thread, and wanting to know what the final verdict on modular sealing is.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Yeah, I'm much the same. There are people here of all time zones (and sleep patterns), so half the time I'll wake up to 3 or 4 more pages.
 
HoratioVonBecker said:
The two word term Hazou and Noburi were confused about, for one.
For a more general criticism, it seemed jarringly reliant on 'real world' references - this is the first we've heard about hydras in the EN, for one thing, even if it's probably more of a nod to the MCU - and on the whole, it didn't seem as simple or as trustworthy as a proper cult recruiter would make it out.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Actually, Orochimaru transforms into an eight-headed hydra (presumably the eponymous Yamata no Orochi) when fighting Itachi.

It's a bloody stupid move since Itachi is using Susano'o at the time - the amazingly exact mythological equivalent of transforming into a hydra to fight Hercules - but it's canon nonetheless.

What's the MCU?
 
Last edited:
Velorien said:
What's the MCU?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Marvel Comics Universe

Fwiw, Hydra to me is more "why did it have to be sneks?!" And less "Captain America to the rescue"* so I didn't see the connection before someone else voiced it. It's still not something I think of when rereading the relevant segment.

*in the context of Naruto works.
 
Last edited:
Muer'ci said:
Marvel Comics Universe

Fwiw, Hydra to me is more "why did it have to be sneks?!" And less "Captain America to the rescue"* so I didn't see the connection before someone else voiced it. It's still not something I think of when rereading the relevant segment.

*in the context of Naruto works.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

IIRC, MCU is Marvel Cinematic Universe and specifically refers to the current series of films.

The comic's main 'verse, by contrast is "Earth 616".
 
@MadScientist Add Momentum-endowing storage seals to the list? Also maybe momentum-sharing, depending on how PMYF works out. If PMYF works to share the momentum, then I suspect storage seals in general would, and a standard storage seal would make an excellent surprise-kunai delivery device in taijutsu, and PMYF would be an excellent way to multiply thrown kunai. Well, to add a payload of shuriken to them too, anyway, I doubt a kunai would pop out point-forward consistently.
 
Cariyaga said:
@MadScientist Add Momentum-endowing storage seals to the list? Also maybe momentum-sharing, depending on how PMYF works out. If PMYF works to share the momentum, then I suspect storage seals in general would, and a standard storage seal would make an excellent surprise-kunai delivery device in taijutsu, and PMYF would be an excellent way to multiply thrown kunai. Well, to add a payload of shuriken to them too, anyway, I doubt a kunai would pop out point-forward consistently.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I thought we already knew that an item coming out of storage does so relative to the seal, meaning it will have the same velocity as the seal relative to everything else, but either more or less momentum depending on whether it's more or less massive than the seal (usually more massive, so usually more momentum, hence why PMYF is "railgun no jutsu").
 
MadScientist said:
I thought we already knew that an item coming out of storage does so relative to the seal, meaning it will have the same velocity as the seal relative to everything else, but either more or less momentum depending on whether it's more or less massive than the seal (usually more massive, so usually more momentum, hence why PMYF is "railgun no jutsu").
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I wasn't sure whether we'd ever actually done any experimentation on that. If so, then we should definitely integrate that into our fighting styles at the first opportunity -- this is something we can ALL use in one fashion or another, though we'll need Kagome's help with positioning the seal safely on our fists.

e: welp. I, uh, didn't realize I posted so much in this thread. I'm only around 40 posts below @eaglejarl ...
 
Last edited:
MadScientist said:
How about a seal to produce a zone of low gravity?

We could train the team to fight in low-G, but any enemies would be completely thrown off their game.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'd prefer high gravity for that; low gravity would cause issues with locking your movement while in the air. Good idea, though. Maybe we can simulate a black hole for our time dilation device! I see no way this could go wrong.
 
The low gravity sounds a lot like my slow motion seal idea, but I suppose it is sufficiently different to have its own uses for containing people. If you could get the gravity down to zero and stack it with the slow acceleration seal we could trap people inside both effects unable to escape.
 
HoratioVonBecker said:
The two word term Hazou and Noburi were confused about, for one.
For a more general criticism, it seemed jarringly reliant on 'real world' references - this is the first we've heard about hydras in the EN, for one thing, even if it's probably more of a nod to the MCU - and on the whole, it didn't seem as simple or as trustworthy as a proper cult recruiter would make it out.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Velorien said:
Actually, Orochimaru transforms into an eight-headed hydra (presumably the eponymous Yamato no Orochi) when fighting Itachi.

It's a bloody stupid move since Itachi is using Susano'o at the time - the amazingly exact mythological equivalent of transforming into a hydra to fight Hercules - but it's canon nonetheless.

What's the MCU?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I don't know why it took this conversation to trigger my trap senses, but this has been bothering me since the update. Why is Orochimaru advertising the snake motif in his cult? With the Liberator, you had to be in the gang and start asking questions before there were any snake references, but here, it's on the nameplate. He might as well have labeled it Orochimaru and Kabuto's Secret Cult Hideout! (Girlz Keep Out!)

Non-mutally-exclusive options I've thought of (some of which make me just as happy the option I voted for this update lost):
  • It's a honeypot, looking for Jiraiya's operatives.
  • It and the Liberator are distractions, and Orochimaru's actual plan involves something that he's not advertising at all.
  • Rational Orochimaru/Orochimaru in a world without easy Sharingan transplants didn't get himself booted out of Akatsuki, and he's providing a distraction for their plans.
  • It's the snake-summons equivalent of the Naraka Rollers. Back when he wasn't a missing nin in hiding, he made a contract that all of his organizations would have a snake motif.
Just to throw out one super-paranoid option, if he's still in Akatsuki, and if chakra signatures are a thing, and if different sensors can meaningfully talk about them, we were in an area with Orochimaru's people in Iron, and then we got tagged by sensor rain in Rain. They may know we headed South.
 
On the note of time dilation, any ideas for what we could do about that? I mean, intermediary steps too... it's obviously not the kind of thing we'd be able to do in one step.
 
Cariyaga said:
On the note of time dilation, any ideas for what we could do about that? I mean, intermediary steps too... it's obviously not the kind of thing we'd be able to do in one step.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Currently I have it as

  • Altered Gravity Seal
    • Black Hole Seal (plz no)
      • Time Dilation Seal
utilising gravitational time-warping, but maybe we could find something more effective by analysing the summon scroll's spacetime manipulation.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top