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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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VELORIEN: I'm gonna end the chapter early, what're you gonna have Orochimaru do?

EAGLEJARL: idk just leave it vague and see what the players come up with. I'll just pick the most interesting option
 
Velorien said:
But then, Lord Noburi was something of a dark horse—on the surface, he was as apolitical as a clan founder could realistically be, but the deeper Ruri dug, the more she found. He'd been the Gōketsu's first new summoner, despite the clan head's desire for a scroll. Her medic-nin contacts considered him unremarkable, yet his medical work had generated connections with both Orochimaru and Tsunade. He was an ex-Mist ninja with the shallowest possible roots in Leaf, yet he'd been the one to marry Gasai and become Leaf's bridge to Isan instead of Lord Hyūga's nephew. And now, it turned out he possessed a Bloodline Limit with strategic-level implications.

There had been a man, once, the master of this very compound, whose name meant nothing to ninety-nine percent of the population, yet who at the height of his power had been a threat to the Third Hokage. If Lord Gōketsu miraculously survived all his self-inflicted disasters, including this one, long enough to become Hokage (and she could not see him as a boy with lower ambitions), Ruri had an inkling as to who would be reaching out from his shadow.
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Velorien said:
As the guests drifted gradually into the central room for the promised speech, it was increasingly apparent that both Lord Gōketsu and Orochimaru were missing.
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*Ahem*
faflec said:
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Dictator4Hire said:
I admit I completely forgot about his no draining summons rule.

Maybe we could set up some kind of controlled experiment with tiny amounts of non-human chakra just to see its affects but I would be more comfortable with doing so if we have some back up way of expelling any dangerous/hazardous chakra Noburi might come into contact with.

As for normal assassins vs. other countries using their own summons Leaf is much more prepared to fend off normal ninjas since they have been doing it for decades.* Summons can be esoteric enough that they could have unexpected and therefore unprepared for abilities and they have the upside of not having to worry about exfiltration. If you really want someone dead in MfD and can convince a summon to go through the pain of being popped you have as many kamikaze fighters as you can contract.

*The debacle with Rock collapsing a ton of buildings I would consider an outlier for what it's worth.
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Ipsos Custodes said:
In canon, absorbing any nature chakra without a lot of specialized training turns you into stone, and the training involves having someone beat the nature chakra out of you with some sort of special anti-chakra stick within moments of displaying imminent petrification while you attempt to absorb it safely.

That being said, this isn't canon, and no one really knows, even Jiraiya didn't know, but he was sufficiently concerned about the possibility of a really bad outcome to warrant interfering with the Chunin Exam.
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We can test whether draining summons is bad by having an Aburame have a bug drain one. The bugs don't transfer chakra to the Aburame, otherwise Leaf would have an entire clan of Narutos, so it's a safe enough way to test.

If the bug turns to stone, then we know it's not safe. If the bug doesn't turn to stone it's not a guarantee that draining is safe but at least it's more likely. We'd need to ask the Aburame how emotionally attached they are to their insects though. If they think of individual bugs in the same way the Inuzuka think of their dogs they'll refuse, but I doubt that's the case because tons of their bugs probably get squished in the normal course of combat.



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This would need to be done with the strictest possible OPSEC, and may open up a nature chakra arms race. However, we're in the best position to win such an arms race since we have tons of summons and people who can drain without dying themselves. I think it might be worth doing at some point.
 
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Sentient Tree said:
We can test whether draining summons is bad by having an Aburame have a bug drain one. The bugs don't transfer chakra to the Aburame, otherwise Leaf would have an entire clan of Narutos, so it's a safe enough way to test.

If the bug turns to stone, then we know it's not safe. If the bug doesn't turn to stone it's not a guarantee that draining is safe but at least it's more likely. We'd need to ask the Aburame how emotionally attached they are to their insects though. If they think of individual bugs in the same way the Inuzuka think of their dogs they'll refuse, but I doubt that's the case because tons of their bugs probably get squished in the normal course of combat.
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I mean, Jiraiya was concerned enough about the Aburame draining the Pangolins that he specifically called out Shino to the Kages.
 
If we want to mess with draining summons we should do the thing where we consult with experts. The toads know about it so just go and ask them about it
 
So, talk about Danzo with Ruri? We should also talk to Noburi regarding social attacks, because he doesn't seem to understand how absolutely powerful he is in Leaf.
 
Very fast reactions

Velorien said:
bad things would happen when Hyūga Motokazu regained the power of speech after listening to Yuno's views on Neji and Noburi's relationship,
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Ha! We discovered a method to temporarily jam some traditionalists! It's win win, either we gain advantage or normalize certain dynamics in their eyes.

Velorien said:
the three newbies were feeling desperately out of their depth and as their clan head it was his job to regularly reassure them.
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We really need to find a way to integrate them better, even if their current role fills an entertaining archetype.

Velorien said:
He'd lost track of the dogs early on, and wasn't sure he dared to find them again
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That says a lot about ones summoning clan, but he Does trust them, so it's probably fine.

Velorien said:
this point he'd gladly take a sudden injection of chaos over the steadily sinking status quo.
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Oh hey, it's the EN, and the real world! Neat, in a very desperate way.

Velorien said:
This, nephew, is why I do not care for diplomacy. It is like dealing with children, except that silencing them only increases the noise in the long run."
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That's truly horrifying, not the least because the lack of ruckus Oro is saying comes with his silencing of children.

Velorien said:
He gave an oddly human put-upon sigh
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Also appreciate the recognition that his acting human is a deviation from the norm.

Velorien said:
Sacred Slithering Sage!" it exclaimed. "Oh, thank you so much for this opportunity, Mister Lord Orochimaru Summoner sir! I know everyone says you're creepy and scary and people should stay away from you if they value their lives, but maybe you're not so bad as icky hairy mammals go!"

This one was definitely not going to improve the diplomatic situation.
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Maybe not, but the middle assessment is pretty spot on. Weird working relationship though.

Velorien said:
Ruri had quite liked Lord Gōketsu, with his layers of determination and control which didn't quite cover a boyish innocence at the core
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Yay! She finds is politically useful, which is good and mutual, but her actually liking us as people is also a victory, honestly. I'd be down for team-ups.

Velorien said:
As the guests drifted gradually into the central room for the promised speech, it was increasingly apparent that both Lord Gōketsu and Orochimaru were missing. That was a problem.
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RIP. Everything after this must be the epilogue. We had a good run, all. Though I guess continued presence of dogs means we're not dead, but I have full faith in Oro to keep us, technically, alive.

But really. Now I'm picturing a Hidan chat attempt turned into a Hidan Orochimaru rematch.
 
Shrooms said:
We should also look into Reverse-Summoning mass limits. The way I'm assuming it works is:

1: When a Summoner reverse-summons an increasing amount of mass, the chakra cost will go from negligible to not-negligible and rise with the mass
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2: The extra mass just stops getting transported at all with the Summoner past a certain point.

But I would also figure this should be known already, so...

@eaglejarl @Velorien Is it known how much mass a Summoner can reverse-summon or if there is even a limit?
At the very least we should be capable of expending enough chakra to Reverse-Summon a Kaiju's worth of rock if the Boss Summons are any indication
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A summoner can reverse-summon extra mass equal to their own weight on a single trip, which needs to be held or attached to the summoner.
 
PSA: The Vampiric Dew entry in the Bloodlines doc has been updated. It now contains the following paragraph:

It is also possible to push chakra into a cooperating target through skin contact, although the ability is rarely used because it's generally not worth the trouble. Both parties must be relatively still, it must be skin-to-skin contact, it costs 3 CP for every 1 CP infused into the other person, and the transfer rate is limited to (VD Aspect Bonus) transferred per Standard Action. The person in question must actively consent to the transfer; if they do not cooperate then the chakra cannot be transferred.
 
PSA: the Water Element: Hiding in the Mist Technique is now finished and may be found here. It incorporates both player ideas and existing QM designs.

roobee said:
@eaglejarl @Velorien Has Hazo heard news of Naruto already leaving Leaf?
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HDK, but it's easy enough to find out that yes, Naruto has been out of the village on multiple occasions.
 
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Velorien said:
PSA: the Water Element: Hiding in the Mist Technique is now finished and may be found here. It incorporates both player ideas and existing QM designs.



HDK, but it's easy enough to find out that yes, Naruto has been out of the village on multiple occasions.
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[Cheers of joy]

Now we need to make an artificial river that runs through the Compound, to give Noburi easy access in the event of an attack...

Also, once we do that, we should have any/all ninja with Water Element learn HitM in order to boost VD utility.
 
After oro talk, Wat y'all think of getting someone not hazou to talk to 9 tails beast about dragons, great seal, and afterlife if naruto still in town?
 
Velorien said:
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As the guests drifted gradually into the central room for the promised speech, it was increasingly apparent that both Lord Gōketsu and Orochimaru were missing. That was a problem. Ruri had quite liked Lord Gōketsu, with his layers of determination and control which didn't quite cover a boyish innocence at the core. More pertinently, he'd had a lot of potential as an ally to the KEI, and she couldn't count on his successor developing in the same direction. It put Ruri in a difficult position, since Lord Gōketsu hadn't made his successor public, and in any case she couldn't be sure who would be in charge of the clan by the time the war was over.

Lady Mari was the obvious choice, but clearly she'd already turned down the job. Lady Akane was the next likeliest candidate, if Ruri believed even a tenth of the rumours, and had been trusted with the reins in the past. But then, Lord Noburi was something of a dark horse—on the surface, he was as apolitical as a clan founder could realistically be, but the deeper Ruri dug, the more she found. He'd been the Gōketsu's first new summoner, despite the clan head's desire for a scroll. Her medic-nin contacts considered him unremarkable, yet his medical work had generated connections with both Orochimaru and Tsunade. He was an ex-Mist ninja with the shallowest possible roots in Leaf, yet he'd been the one to marry Gasai and become Leaf's bridge to Isan instead of Lord Hyūga's nephew. And now, it turned out he possessed a Bloodline Limit with strategic-level implications.

There had been a man, once, the master of this very compound, whose name meant nothing to ninety-nine percent of the population, yet who at the height of his power had been a threat to the Third Hokage. If Lord Gōketsu miraculously survived all his self-inflicted disasters, including this one, long enough to become Hokage (and she could not see him as a boy with lower ambitions), Ruri had an inkling as to who would be reaching out from his shadow.
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Did Ruri just compared Hazo to Danzo and think Hazo's a future candidate for the hat?
 
She thinks hazou is a canditate to the hat, she dont know that hazou would rather not use the hat but the image of a mist genim growing up to become their "THE DEVIL" is hilarious.
 
RandomOTP said:
[Cheers of joy]

Now we need to make an artificial river that runs through the Compound, to give Noburi easy access in the event of an attack...

Also, once we do that, we should have any/all ninja with Water Element learn HitM in order to boost VD utility.
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Hard agree, it affects the caster's Zone and surrounding Zones at the first level. Although most genin might not want to drop 9/10ths of their chakra in the first round of combat, whiners
roobee said:
After oro talk, Wat y'all think of getting someone not hazou to talk to 9 tails beast about dragons, great seal, and afterlife if naruto still in town?
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Naruto hates Hazou and thinks he's a traitor. I don't see anything productive coming from this conversation. Naruto will just shut Hazou down and be about his business.
 
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