Cut the wordcount to 443, with some minor word choice alterations to better convey the connotative feel that I think you're aiming for.



The magenta line is something you may want to reconsider wording, since dehumanization of the Clanless is pretty common place and things like "philosophical personhood" may not necessarily exist in MfD --beyond, perhaps, the Five Thinker Clans. Like the QMs have pointed out, civilians aren't moral/legal persons --immigration/emigration of civis isn't noted at all --and first generation ninja are seen as little better than Civilians.

I'd suggest something about disenfranchized nationals being less loyal to their homes, and that enlightened self-interest should mean that civilians should be treated with more respect (if for no other reason than someone has to farm, shovel shit, and other meanial/mundane labor and ninja are too busy fighting chakra beasts, sealing away rampaging Tailed Beasts, stopping Pein, putting down doomsday cults, etc).

Unfortunately, the very deathworld nature of MfD --and the fact that ninja are bred and slaughtered against the ceaseless tide of existential threats --means that attitudes toward civilians are often (at best) Ino's particular brand of "they live by our sacrifice, and the peace they enjoy in bought with the blood and tears of our people." And while Asuma isn't actively bigoted by the way of the Hagoromo, I could see him subscribing to this "casual bigotry" that persists in even the "liberal" Leaf Clans.
Implemented most of this, I left the magenta line mostly the way it was but switched "dehumanized" to "disenfranchised". Still, I'd note this conversation isn't really about convincing Asuma of anything, it's about clearly establishing how Hazou thinks so Asuma doesn't have to constantly wonder about his motives.

Also, with my blue light filter on that yellow text was really hard to read :rofl:
 
I recognize that this may be going against the spirit of the plan, @Shrooms, but I really think you should communicate with Mari to make sure that the plan isn't a bad idea. Not in the sense of having her optimize the plan, but in the sense of giving her the plan (in writing) and saying "will doing this get us killed and/or otherwise fuck our relations with Asuma, Y/N?". We can then tell Asuma with 100% honestly that we never consulted Mari on how to present this to youonlywhetherornotweshould.
 
I recognize that this may be going against the spirit of the plan, @Shrooms, but I really think you should communicate with Mari to make sure that the plan isn't a bad idea. Not in the sense of having her optimize the plan, but in the sense of giving her the plan (in writing) and saying "will doing this get us killed and/or otherwise fuck our relations with Asuma, Y/N?". We can then tell Asuma with 100% honestly that we never consulted Mari on how to present this to youonlywhetherornotweshould.
  • Asuma
    • (Verify with Mari that talking to Asuma like this isn't suicidal, reputationally or literally)
Like this?
 
i am of the opinion that informing AMI of the dragon situation is a pretty big opsec breach. confirmation that a lot of leaf resources are being allocated to fend off powerful beings that have no physical presence and (therefore not mist's problem) will open the door to negotiations that put Leaf in their back foot against mist. even if Ami already knows i rather not have it be our fault as we can't lie for shit apparently.
 
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i am of the opinion that informing AMI of the dragon situation is a pretty big opsec breach. confirmation that a lot of leaf resources are being allocated to fend off powerful beings that have no physical presence and (therefore not mist's problem) will open the door to negotiations that put Leaf in their back foot against mist. even if Ami already knows i rather not have it be our fault as we can't lie for shit apparently.
Vel said earlier that it is not an OPSEC breach (so far as Hazou is aware, which should be quite aware considering he's organized like the entire response to the crisis)
 
Hazou checks in with Keiko in the morning and evening, so he could feasibly do it later in the day, but I think doing it the next day makes more sense in-character
 
Might as well slap this plan down as well since voter turnout is extremely low right now and it'll give another option.

[X] Action Plan: Keiko Becomes Religious (Not Clickbait!)
Word Count: 292
  • Offscreen:
    • Check if Tsuande minds us using her reputation as a medic to sway Isan - specifically offering training/sharing of medical techniques. If not, what can we promise - if anything? (Clinics, access to services?)
  • Plan for Isan team to optimize, implement if approved:
    • We want to lift the curse on Yuno.
      • This mitigates her social stigma. Potentially courts other cursed individuals.
    • Contract and summon a Pangolin cleric to perform ritual purification.
      • Craft ceremony informed by both Isanese and Pangolin traditions.
      • Plan and revise carefully to avoid faux pas. Ask Yuno, Mari, Keiko, Takahashi.
    • Perform ceremony as publicly as is sensible.
      • Arrange for rumors to spread if not wise to do so publicly.
  • Meet with Kannagi:
    • Roll into the ceremony if team agrees it's wise.
    • Thank the Kannagi for caring for the previously cursed Yuno, and for hosting the Isan crew as honored guests.
    • Their devotion to Isan and Ui's legacy (subtext: Keiko, Leaf) deserves recognition.
      • Keiko has ideas but knows too little about them to select the most appropriate offering.
      • Her ability to recognize them is limited by the lack of formal relations between Isan and Leaf, but she will do her best with the resources available to her as a powerful figure in Leaf's politics and the Pangolin summoner.
        • Subtext: courting them for a Leaf alliance.
    • It has been an honor to fight alongside Kannagi nin in her hunts.
      • Express appropriate sorrow for their fallen.
      • Keiko would not wish anything, or anyone, to bring harm to a clan she is now bonded to through Yuno's marriage.
        • Subtext: That includes Azai, who Keiko has been told sees the Kannagi unfavorably.
 
[] Action Plan: The Machinations of Hazou's Mind, Revealed

Swear to Jashin this is going to get us killed, but I think this general goal is the correct one.
 
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Edits to your plan, Shrooms, mostly with the goal of QOL. I have made some edits which I think are needed and asked questions below it, so please be aware of that.
Word Count: 433
  • Ami:
    • Explain the Dragonwar Crisis. Hopefully the Condor Scout will inform the others, but that could take weeks.
    • Keiko's mission is classified, don't talk about it. If Ami presses, offer to forward messages/gifts to her.
    • What's Ami's take on the Bank Run? (Don't owe her a favor, let her be mysterious if necessary)
    • How're you doing? Been up to anything interesting?
  • Asuma:
    • (Verify with Mari that this plan isn't suicidal, reputationally or literally)
    • Asuma feels he cannot trust Hazou's motives. Hazou wants to elucidate them so Asuma can fully understand his actions.
      • Hazou won't be deceptive about who he is. He's seen how this destroys a person firsthand.
      • If there's anything Asuma doesn't understand about Hazou, please ask so there's no doubt.
    • Leaf is more than a means to an end, its wellbeing is itself a goal since it's home to people Hazou loves/respects. A stronger Leaf means protecting them.
      • Hazou wants a warless world.
        • He's not unique, Jiraiya (among others) felt similarly.
        • Hazou doesn't know how to achieve this yet; he isn't completely naive.
        • To Hazou's great loathing, kindness from Leaf would presently be abused by other villages.
      • Hazou wants clanless ninja recognized.
        • Hazou grew up essentially clanless. He's seen how their lack of support disenfranchised them and undermined Mist's strength.
        • Asuma thanked Hazou for good ideas regarding clanless, but they're more than ideas to Hazou.
        • Asuma's proven he'll engage Hazou's ideology seriously, even if he doesn't necessarily agree. Jiraiya was the only other authority who did this.
          • Hazou respects both immensely for it.
      • Hazou wants civilian lives considered worthwhile.
        • It feels herculean, but seeing Leaf begin embracing clanless makes Hazou hopeful.
        • Civilians are developing Skysliders, Gaku (a civilian), is crucial to our clan's running...Hazou's often frustrated that they aren't seen as people sometimes.
        • However, he believes he'll be taken seriously when the discussion crops up, which is itself very important to Hazou.
    • Asuma's paranoia thinks Hazou benefited from disaster, but it's more accurate to say Hazou has experienced failure so often that he's nearly mastered damage control.
      • Intentionally hurting innocent lives for personal gain is antithetical to the world he wants to build. It's more than hypocrisy, it actively sets his goals back to use those methods. Hazou hates that he's had to do this in the past.
      • Hazou does want Goketsu to prosper, if only to promote his beliefs, much like other clans. However, he doesn't want it to come at the expense of Leaf.
    • Thank Asuma for hearing Hazou out. Asuma doesn't have to be so considerate, and the fact that he is matters to Hazou.
He essentially grew up clanless, and lack of support more than undermined Mist's strength, it disenfranchised clanless.
How visible was the bolded to Hazou/Leaf in general? Is this lack of support as undermining in Leaf, xor is the effect a consequence exacerbated by Yagura?
However, he believes he'll be taken seriously when the discussion crops up, which is itself very important to Hazou.
Could you explain this; I'm not quite parsing what it means. Are you referring to Hazou's conversation with Asuma RN, xor a future conversation convincing the Clans to support civilian rights, xor something else entirely?
Asuma's paranoid side seemed to think Hazou benefited from disaster, but it's more accurate to say Hazou has experienced failure so often that he's nearly mastered damage control. (Humor): This conversation notwithstanding.
Asuma's paranoid side isn't telling him that Hazou didn't benefit from the disasters that befall Leaf, it's telling him that Hazou's goals include causing disasters to befall Leaf. Also not sure how relevant Hazou mastering damage control has to this conversation, and I'm not sure he really has.
 
How visible was the bolded to Hazou/Leaf in general? Is this lack of support as undermining in Leaf, xor is the effect a consequence exacerbated by Yagura?
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say, but to more clearly state what I meant: Withholding support from clanless makes them weaker in the long run, which weakens your own military. The way it's worded right now, I would say Hazou is only talking about Mist at the moment. I'm not sure how 'visible' it is because everyone just accepts things as they are, until evidence points otherwise. That said, it definitely was exacerbated by Yagura because clanless didn't have anyone to shield them from the tyranny.

Could you explain this; I'm not quite parsing what it means. Are you referring to Hazou's conversation with Asuma RN, xor a future conversation convincing the Clans to support civilian rights, xor something else entirely?
I'm imagining he means when he pitches things to Asuma in the future

Also not sure how relevant Hazou mastering damage control has to this conversation
This conversation is damage control, is the joke

I'm not sure he really has.
I would say he is quite good at damage control, due to the nature of the hivemind etc. Look at how he handled the Collapse, the Bank Run, and so on. I forget which chapter it is, but after the Cold Stone Killers incident, I think it's Noburi that comments about how Hazou can instantly think of plans when things go wrong, while everyone else is still reeling. Sure, he's not Mari, but I'd say he's pretty good at mitigating damage when given the chance to.

> Hazou hates that he's had to do this in the past.
Uh, when has Hazou intentionally killed innocents solely for personal gain? The only thing that's even close was the Sunset Racer, which was mostly to prevent the jeopardizing of a bigger mission, one which ultimately saved more lives. Sure, it was a shitty thing he had to be a part of but that's a lot different from something like selling Leaf out to Rock and reaping the benefits.
 
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say, but to more clearly state what I meant: Withholding support from clanless makes them weaker in the long run, which weakens your own military. The way it's worded right now, I would say Hazou is only talking about Mist at the moment. I'm not sure how 'visible' it is because everyone just accepts things as they are, until evidence points otherwise. That said, it definitely was exacerbated by Yagura because clanless didn't have anyone to shield them from the tyranny.
Right, but I'm not sure how much Asuma believes in clanless ninja being disenfranchised causes a military weakness, and I'm not sure how much Hazou is aware of how bad things got under Yagura (or, for that matter, how it compares to in Leaf).
I'm imagining he means when he pitches things to Asuma in the future
Makes sense, though I...I think I would rather this be left out in that case, it seems a bit presumptive.
This conversation is damage control, is the joke
I would say he is quite good at damage control, due to the nature of the hivemind etc. Look at how he handled the Collapse, the Bank Run, and so on. I forget which chapter it is, but after the Cold Stone Killers incident, I think it's Noburi that comments about how Hazou can instantly think of plans when things go wrong, while everyone else is still reeling. Sure, he's not Mari, but I'd say he's pretty good at mitigating damage when given the chance to.
I...don't think a couple of incidents makes Hazou a master, or even nearly so. Not really seeing a good way to change this, but I think Hazou's experience in failure/damage control shouldn't be the emphasis.
> Hazou hates that he's had to do this in the past.
Uh, when has Hazou intentionally killed innocents solely for personal gain? The only thing that's even close was the Sunset Racer, which was mostly to prevent the jeopardizing of a bigger mission, one which ultimately saved more lives. Sure, it was a shitty thing he had to be a part of but that's a lot different from something like selling Leaf out to Rock and reaping the benefits.
Bleh, I forgot to make the other change. I wanted to add that Hazou ought to say he's against sacrificing innocents because it would make his goals easier, and not just focus on personal gain, since I think very few ninjas of importance do stuff solely for personal gain. The Sunset Racer is a good example because of how killing the civilians on that boat is something he accepted doing because of the (from his perspective) minor risk of being found out and etc. etc..
 
Very beefy plan, but I kinda think it's worth the XP penalty to be explicit to Asuma about what it actually is Hazou wants. This conversation may be better saved for later but I thought I might as well post it now so it can be refined down the line if necessary.

[X] Action Plan: The Machinations of Hazou's Mind, Revealed
Word Count: 450 OOF
  • Ami
    • Explain Dragonwar Crisis. Hopefully the Condor Scout will inform the others, but that could take weeks.
    • Keiko's mission is classified, don't talk about it. If Ami presses, offer to forward messages/gifts to her.
    • What's Ami's take on the Bank Run? (Don't owe her a favor, let her be mysterious if necessary)
    • How is Ami doing? Been up to anything interesting?
  • Asuma
    • (Verify with Mari that this plan isn't suicidal, reputationally or literally)
    • Asuma feels he cannot trust Hazou's motives. Hazou wants to elucidate them so Asuma can fully understand his actions.
      • Hazou won't be deceptive about who he is. He's seen how this destroys a person firsthand.
      • If there's anything Asuma doesn't understand about Hazou, please ask so there's no doubt.
    • Leaf is more than a means to an end, its wellbeing is itself a goal since it's home to people Hazou loves/respects. A stronger Leaf means protecting them.
      • Hazou wants a warless world.
        • He's not unique, Jiraiya felt similarly, among other ninja, probably including Asuma.
        • Hazou doesn't know how to achieve this yet. He isn't completely naive - presently, kindness from Leaf would be taken advantage of by other villages, something he loathes.
      • Hazou wants clanless recognized.
        • Hazou grew up essentially clanless. He's seen how their lack of support disenfranchised them and undermined Mist's strength.
        • Asuma thanked Hazou for good ideas regarding clanless; they're more than ideas to Hazou. Even if he doesn't completely agree/understand, Asuma's proven he'll engage Hazou's ideology seriously.
          • Only other authority who did this was Jiraiya, and Hazou respects both immensely for it.
      • Hazou wants civilian lives considered worthwhile.
        • It feels herculean, but seeing Leaf begin embracing clanless makes Hazou hopeful.
        • Skyslider team is run by civilians, Gaku (a civilian) is vital to Goketsu's success, and Hazou can be frustrated with the world that they aren't seen as people sometimes.
        • However, he believes Asuma would at least hear him out if any discussion about the matter crops up, which is itself very important to Hazou.
    • Asuma's paranoid side seemed to think Hazou benefited from disaster because he expected it, but it's more accurate to say Hazou has experienced failure so often that he's nearly mastered damage control. (Humor): This conversation notwithstanding.
      • Intentionally hurting innocent lives for personal gain is antithetical to the world he wants to build. It's more than hypocrisy, it would actively set his goals back to use those methods.
      • Hazou does want Goketsu to prosper, if only to promote his beliefs, much like other clans. However, he doesn't want it to come at the expense of Leaf.
    • Thank Asuma for hearing Hazou out. Asuma doesn't have to be so considerate, and the fact that he is matters to Hazou.
Okay I changed a bunch of stuff, might be worth just reading through the plan again and seeing how it parses
 
Right, but I'm not sure how much Asuma believes in clanless ninja being disenfranchised causes a military weakness.
Wasn't Leaf nin's enthusiastic loyalty to their village explicitly regarded as one of their greatest strengths when we were first visiting them? I thought Jiraiya or someone mentioned something about it.
I'm not sure how much Hazou is aware of how bad things got under Yagura (or, for that matter, how it compares to in Leaf).
Uh, how would he not? He lived as a 'clanless' under Yagura... He would've seen the difficulties his mother experienced, for instance.

Makes sense, though I...I think I would rather this be left out in that case, it seems a bit presumptive.
Hm, I don't mind cutting it I suppose

I...don't think a couple of incidents makes Hazou a master, or even nearly so. Not really seeing a good way to change this, but I think Hazou's experience in failure/damage control shouldn't be the emphasis.
Counterpoint: I laughed at my own joke so it should stay. I'll try to think about how it might be reworded, though I don't think this is particularly egregious. Perhaps just referring to being experienced in damage control generally rather than being a 'master'.
 
Wasn't Leaf nin's enthusiastic loyalty to their village explicitly regarded as one of their greatest strengths when we were first visiting them? I thought Jiraiya or someone mentioned something about it.
Would less loyalty among clanless ninja be such a major weakness such that Asuma could not justify the expenditure of resources to improve it? I'm...not certain it is the case.
Uh, how would he not? He lived as a 'clanless' under Yagura... He would've seen the difficulties his mother experienced, for instance.
Hazou's a...unique case, his family was driven out and actively attacked due to having "betrayed" the clan. How much of their life was due to having no clan support and how much of that was due to a clan actively attacking them...*shrugs*
Counterpoint: I laughed at my own joke so it should stay. I'll try to think about how it might be reworded, though I don't think this is particularly egregious. Perhaps just referring to being experienced in damage control generally rather than being a 'master'.
Perhaps emphasize how Hazou did all that under his moral system of helping the people that need the most help, those that he can help, and those who others aren't. Dunno how to make that non-accusatory, though, and we do want to avoid barbing Asuma.
 
Here's a plan. Think I'll make a non-Isan plan dealing with the current situation.

[X] Action Plan (Isan): Selling Snake Societies
Word Count: 278

Action plan prep:
Exploit Arikada's jealousy of Kabuto, by using Kei as an alternative back-channel to Orochimaru. Furthermore, use Arikada to secure the Outcasts religious/legal protections.

  • Ask Kon Ai for help in planning and improving Isan's medical infrastructure.
    • Kei can get the Nara to come up with the legalese for rights, protections, and obligations of Outcasts.
    • Consult Takahashi and Arikada. Have them ready to lean on Azai, Inoue, and Aida.
Action plan - Isan :
  • Ask Arikada about leaning on Azai to develop Isan's poor medical infrastructure along Leaf's standards. This would get the SSSSS an insider's view and coordination regarding medical research developments of Leaf and Orochimaru.
    • Might be expensive.
    • And there is a risk of running afoul of religious barriers or reluctance to experiment.
  • The solution might be found in the Outcasts there.
    • Isan's leadership would benefit if it allowed Noburi or Arikada the right to cultivate competent outcasts as potential med-nin in-training or support. Consider it an act towards holy redemption and purification for the good of Isan at little cost.
      • If they could be further trained under the tutelage and protection of the SSSSS, they could provide med-nin and assistants.
Contingencies:
  • Arikada is incentivized to keep his charges protected since he wants influence to catch Orochimaru's notice through Kei.
    • A good base of operations, resources, and religiously bound staff helps with that.
  • Azai can bolster his first foreign ally while using a problem population for Isan's progress.
  • Leaf benefits by extending her influence and guidance to Isan through its healthcare.
    • As well as guide Isan's development.
  • Ask Noburi adjust to Uplift standards.
  • Sanity check with clan, Isan team, and Asuma first.

EDIT: Pushed Ami's involvement into the background.
 
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