Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

[Orisha91]

Well it sucks, but I think our only useful bits of the gator for tool use. Like the head and maybe the other lighter body parts. The hunt was a bust overall but we did succeed in the scouting part and our map should be very helpful on the next attempt.

-[X] Hey, you guys feel absolutely free to use our stuff as long as you're nice about it!

-[] Something else?
--[] Carry back the head, and the tail. The tail should be divides into 2.

I'm thinking the head/ tail should be enough. We'll need to ditch the main body which is heavier.
If any of the above is not intact, 15 lbs of meat should be good enough for each of the genin to carry, IMO. I'm thinking the limbs aren't gonna look as meaty as the tail, so best if we carry that.

Actually, I'm thinking predators usually go after the innards so , we should be fine, I think.

 

[chaonaut]

Your characters have no experience with field-dressing animals (genin don't get sent on missions that require them to live off the land)

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When we have an Hidden Village and a training process for future genin, can it include information useful to the first missions of a genin, for example, field survival training, so in the event that they have a multiday mission that takes them outside the village, we don't need to provide money for boarding or force their jōnin sensei to teach them basic survival skills in situ? Especially if we plan to be anywhere near allies with Konoha and will have our genin taking their Chūnin Exams in the Forest of Death?

On the other hand, "before dark" or "after dark" is a false dichotomy. Better to ask "how long after dark": unless some creature is stalking us just waiting for it to get dark enough to attack, then, assuming threats arrive by a Poisson process, the expected extra danger during 30 minutes of dark is about half that of 1 hour of dark, etc..

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Field-dressing does seem like a sound idea. I don't really know how much of the body-mass of the gator would go to internal organs and skeleton, but carrying several smaller fragments should be much easier and faster than the whole thing. If nothing else, each of the genin preserves individual freedom of movement.

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I'm on board with harvesting some of the meat, even if we do it poorly (avoid the bowels, we don't want shit in our food, basic principle of food), and being willing to arrive reasonably after dark, if needed.

 

[Radvic]

Initial thoughts: Well, that was eventful. We've survived many close death experiences, I don't like that. Related: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY CHAKRA.

So, I did some brief research on field dressing aligators (read: googled "how to field dress an aligator"). Looks like in the real world you need to get it on ice within 4 hours. We didn't, so unless the Noburi water drain has been killing any infection, there's a decent chance it's infected at this point. Especially after the millipedes attacked (I know I wouldn't eat that). This is definitely worth considering. I also looked up a youtube video on field dressing an aligator. The upshot is we don't have anywhere near the time necessary (1-3 hours) to get the gator comprehensibly field dressed, and we're lacking the tools (e.g. compressed gas) to do so well in the first place (not to mention the constant danger).

With this in mind, my current idea is that the aligator has minimal import for us, though it's worth attempting to get some of it. There's three basic possibilities I see for taking a portion of the gator:

• Take the tail
• Take the head
• Take some legs

Given the difficulty in getting any appendage removed (need to go through the scales and bones) It's probably worth trying to cut off each appendage once or twice and then take whichever come off - head, tail, and a leg ideally. This is dependent on getting through the aligator skin, which is hard, then the aligator bone, which is also hard. I don't know if a kunia will cut it. It's probably worth prioritizing the tail and head, but honestly, we may not be able to cut those off quickly, so a leg would be great if we can remove that.

On being out in the dark - it's a bad idea without a light in the real world. A terrible idea in a death swamp. Even if there were no predators, we'd likely get lost. Let's prioritize avoiding being lost in the death-swamp at night if at all possible.

ETA: How likely is it that we are lost already? We passed one landmark we hadn't seen on the way back, we've been in combat several times (which would likely turn us around), and no comment has been made about familiar landmarks. Do we know how good our sense of direction is? Is there a roll associated with that? Would we know if we had failed such a roll?

 

[redzonejoe]

600kg gator lost 90kg (200lbs) to bugs, May be starting to rot. Still 510kg, 170kg each instead of 200. Won't improve travel time any.

Taking it with us means traveling at half speed. Arriving 30 minutes after dark means we're at least 30 minutes unburdened travel time away from camp.

If we want to be optimistic, it may be an hour and a half until dusk, and we're an hour away from camp. That gives us 30 minutes to work with the Gator.

With field dressing taking at least an hour before Radvic's info, I'm thinking that's a lost cause. The possibly spoiled meat is too heavy, and too hard to get at.

We could possibly behead it in 30 minutes, or go for it's legs. One person per limb for 2 legs and a head? It's something.

Otherwise we have to leave it. If we do this, then we should take the time to string it up or protect it somehow (bury it underground?). We could mark the trees in this area to guide a retrieval group tomorrow, in the hopes of getting at least the bones and claws, if that's worth the effort.

Final option is to just keep marching, and hope we're close enough to camp when night hits that we can signal the camp for aid. 30 minutes is a ways away, but then we're moving pretty slowly. Still not a good idea.

 

[WanderingAirhead]

Why would you even want the head? Honestly the skull serves little purpose. It's value as an impromptu tool is minimal, and the teams sent to the village should easily be able to acquire basic tools fairly easily. Not to mention - any experienced ninja with earth affinity should be able to get more work done than a few people with shovels.

The full field-dressing may take a while, but getting rid of internal organs, cutting off the head, and maybe legs, and then severing the rest into three neat pieces shouldn't take that long.

But taking everything into account, maybe it really is better to just head to base, and just leave the gator. Chances to retrieve it later are minimal, but maybe the next expedition would be more fruitful.

 

[Radvic]

600kg gator lost 90kg (200lbs) to bugs, May be starting to rot. Still 510kg, 170kg each instead of 200. Won't improve travel time any.

Taking it with us means traveling at half speed. Arriving 30 minutes after dark means we're at least 30 minutes unburdened travel time away from camp.

If we want to be optimistic, it may be an hour and a half until dusk, and we're an hour away from camp. That gives us 30 minutes to work with the Gator.

With field dressing taking at least an hour before Radvic's info, I'm thinking that's a lost cause. The possibly spoiled meat is too heavy, and too hard to get at.

We could possibly behead it in 30 minutes, or go for it's legs. One person per limb for 2 legs and a head? It's something.

Otherwise we have to leave it. If we do this, then we should take the time to string it up or protect it somehow (bury it underground?). We could mark the trees in this area to guide a retrieval group tomorrow, in the hopes of getting at least the bones and claws, if that's worth the effort.

Final option is to just keep marching, and hope we're close enough to camp when night hits that we can signal the camp for aid. 30 minutes is a ways away, but then we're moving pretty slowly. Still not a good idea.

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Easiest way to leave it would probably be to make a sort of bear bag. Basically, find a branch at least 30 feet off the ground, throw a rope over it, get the gator suspended at least 18 feet from the ground and 4 feet from the tree. Note this would require a strong rope and branch, but wouldn't take too long using water whip to throw the rope over. It also wouldn't actually protect from many things in the swamp (anything with more intelligence than a real world bear and ranged attacks, or anything which flies).

Why would you even want the head? Honestly the skull serves little purpose. It's value as an impromptu tool is minimal, and the teams sent to the village should easily be able to acquire basic tools fairly easily. Not to mention - any experienced ninja with earth affinity should be able to get more work done than a few people with shovels.

The full field-dressing may take a while, but getting rid of internal organs, cutting off the head, and maybe legs, and then severing the rest into three neat pieces shouldn't take that long.

But taking everything into account, maybe it really is better to just head to base, and just leave the gator. Chances to retrieve it later are minimal, but maybe the next expedition would be more fruitful.

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In the youtube video I saw, it took over 20 minutes for the guy to remove the skin, which we'd need to do if we want to remove internal organs. Anything besides the most basic of procedures is likely to take too long. The value of the head is the skull, the teeth, and a little meat (tongue, brain and fat). Value of the tail is quality meat (unless it's spoiled). Value of legs is some meat, bones, and claws. If we were confident this was edible, the tail would be the best. Given that we're not, the skull, teeth, claws, and bones have some value even if the meat is inedible. Also, no matter how we try to make it better, we're still going to try to carry 510 kg. It's certainly not feasible for humans to carry over extended periods, maybe ninja, but I'd rather not risk it. Other benefits to taking the head is that it looks impressive and might be a moral booster for our group, or give us some social credit as the genin which took down a gator (and they claim they killed a spiderbear).

I'm currently leaving towards just abandoning the gator and getting our valuable info to the village, especially Keiko's observation on apex predators. That's a concern Shikigami should hear. I'll be back in 4 hours or so and try to think some more in the meantime.

 

[faflec]

Most of the loss from the gator would have to be from its face, right? Our kunai struck it in the head and we didn't use any else, so...? It's a good thing because the bulk of the gator's meat content (tail, legs...) is likely not fucked up. Just cut off the tail/legs (Water Whip/chakra enhancements?) and be done with it.

 

[redzonejoe]

Why would you even want the head?

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Teeth? Trophy? Bone plate to be sewn into leather armor? Maybe a medic-nin could get something useful from studying it?

A head has got to be better than spoiled meat from, say, a section of tail.

If the meat isn't spoiled, then part of the tail might be better, sure. Food is why we brought it in the first place.

We could just phrase it in such a way that the GM decides, based on what's more likely to be useful.

[] Carve off whatever you think you can carry in under 30 minutes, then head back to camp at full speed.

Most of the loss from the gator would have to be from its face, right?

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Mori and Wakahisa's flurry of kunai struck its enormous face, making it thrash in pain for the few seconds it took for Wakahisa to deploy his Water Whip and asphyxiate it.

After enough strangulation to make sure the crocodile was very definitely dead, plus kunai through both eyes in case it changed its mind,

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an insect would jam its pincer-equipped head into one of the wounds made by the genin's weapons, tear a gobbet of flesh out, and then step aside to let the next one have a turn.

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Yep. 90lbs of face have been eaten. Neat.

 

[faflec]

Yeah, if it's only the face/upper body that's been eaten we shouldn't have to worry too much about infection; the lower half of the gator hasn't really been exposed to water and should be cleanable.

I wonder if the Water Whip can seep into the gator's flesh and expand outwards to rip limbs off faster?

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@eaglejarl @Jackercracks @Velorien @AugSphere How are we looking for chakra? Can you confirm the gator lost its flesh from the face/upper body?

 

[Rihaku]

Hm... how long would it take to just cut steaks out of the choicest areas of the gator / spiderbear and book it for home? ~150kg of food is still a very decent haul and Hazou probably has enough Taijutsu knowledge to at least know where the biggest segments are.

Vote #2, what to do out of story?:

In this post, I had Hazou burn some chakra to fight the spiderbear. On the one hand, GMs shouldn't blithely burn up player resources. On the other, y'all needed the boost, I was confident you would have voted for it, and it didn't actually damage your resources because Gatorade-guy was there. Also, it let me fit in a Watsonian description of chakra usage. So:

-[] OY! GMs! Keep yer grubby mitts off our stuff!
-[] Hey, you guys feel absolutely free to use our stuff as long as you're nice about it!

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Given Waka's presence and the imminency of life-and-death encounters, I have no problem using chakra in fights. In fact, we should use more! +2 dice instead of +1 would have given us a much safer margin of error against that thing. It's good to know that a spiderbear is below our apex combat output in melee, though this swamp once again presents a tough challenge. A generalist chunin works off something like 5x-6x our total XP and would have had an equally tough time; it's a good thing at least one of our team is as specialized as we are.

 

[Rihaku]

We should be able to tell how bad things are after dark from our observations of last night, which were also spent on the island during the rest day. Even if we ourselves didn't directly observe anything, surely at least some of the jounin/chunin were keeping watch and rumors / useful information would have disseminated. That gives us an estimate - immediately lethal, merely perilous, etc.

"Yes," Keiko said. "But there's a piece missing here. We've seen too many apex predators and not enough game for them to feed on. Maybe there's a lot more fish than we saw, but evolution fitted this monster to take down large prey, not the occasional watersnake. One explanation would be that there's something deeper in the swamp that's recently arrived and is dangerous enough that it's been pushing apex predators out of their normal hunting ranges."

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On the bright side, if this situation continues for any significant length of time, the apex predators - having nothing to eat - will swiftly kill each other off in an internecine frenzy or starve to death!

 

[eaglejarl]

I wonder if the Water Whip can seep into the gator's flesh and expand outwards to rip limbs off faster?

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Nice thought, but no.

@eaglejarl @Jackercracks @Velorien @AugSphere How are we looking for chakra? Can you confirm the gator lost its flesh from the face/upper body?

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Face and upper back, yes.

You're all full up on chakra.

Given Waka's presence and the imminency of life-and-death encounters, I have no problem using chakra in fights. In fact, we should use more! +2 dice instead of +1 would have given us a much safer margin of error against that thing.

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I originally wrote the fight with you burning three dice for utter domination. Then I remembered we had added the "can only burn 1/4 of your skill" rule in order to prevent AcademyStudent!Naruto from punting Jonin!Gai through a wall using nothing but bonus dice.

It's good to know that a spiderbear is below our apex combat output in melee, though this swamp once again presents a tough challenge. A generalist chunin works off something like 5x-6x our total XP and would have had an equally tough time; it's a good thing at least one of our team is as specialized as we are.

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You actually have no idea what the result of spiderbear vs gator would be, aside from "hilarious, if viewed from a distance".

 

[faflec]

We have full chakra? FUCK YES

Ok, I think that we should cut off the tail/lower legs, using chakra to increase our cutting strength and thus speed the process. If we have time and carrying capacity we could try to get the upper legs or lower torso but this is probably a bit much. Recall we have ~1hr which may or may not be accurate. Keiko and Hazou have the highest weapons skills and should focus more on carving up; Noburi has the highest awareness and should focus on sentry duty but help out when needed.

@eaglejarl @Jackercracks @Velorien @AugSphere May we have an estimate on how long this will take? Just carving off the tail/lower legs, avoiding bone to speed the process?

 

[Silver719]

Jutsu Wishlist:
Solid Ground jutsu (makes solid ground, infinitely useful when dealing with swamp creatures that prefer to use swampwater in combat)
Water Walking
Earth Wall Barrier Jutsu (Pulls up a slab of earth drawbridge style and infuses it with chakra for increased durability)
Rabbit Burrow Jutsu (For making livable tunnels)
Broken Burrow Jutsu (for collapsing tunnels in a controlled, strategic manner)
(Mass) Earth Spike Jutsu (Create a single spike of chakra-enhanced earth that thrusts at the enemy, multiple spikes from different direction if underground)

Water Senbon Jutsu
Water Bullet Jutsu
Mystic Palm Jutsu
Mystic Pool Jutsu (uses the Dew Kekkei Genkai to infuse an amount of water with chakra geared towards healing ala Mystic Palm, allows for the healing of multiple wounds simultaneously at the cost of a drastic increase of chakra when wounds are exposed to the water, can heal multiple persons simultaneously, chakra cost based on the size of the pool of water)
Hydro Sword Jutsu
Water Wall Jutsu
Water Slash Jutsu (extreme-pressure water stream swung in an arc for incredible cutting power)

Did I miss anything?

 

[Traiden]

@Jackercracks @eaglejarl @AugSphere @Velorien I would like to get more clarifications about what skills we do have and the validity of our character's ability to carry out. Link to my post

 

[Radvic]

Observations after reflecting and rereading:

1. Given the encounter rate we've seen, finding game to hunt should be trivial. Large meaty beasties are plentiful, we already found two today.
2. We've gotten really lucky with rolls thus far. If we keep going into combat as unprepared as we have been, we will die soon.
   1. The longer we are away from camp the more likely we are to enter combat.
3. We'll be much more effective once we know waterwalking. This should be our very top training priority. (we'd likely have been able to waterwalk with the gator and be back at camp by now, could have avoided the spiderbear, etc)
4. Gator parts can be used, even if spoiled, as bait
5. We really don't want to be out and moving at dark. That way leads to death, especially carrying a bunch of raw meat.
6. Our priority right now is getting home safely. This is our utmost concern.
7. On daylight, we should err on the side of caution. It may be hard to even find our village after dark.
8. We should start encourage/compliment Keiko whenever she suggests a good idea. We want her to do that more.

Because of 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7, I'm leaning towards completely abandoning the gator with 4 making me think we should attempt to use chakra to slice off a limb for a few minutes, so long as the cutting and carrying process doesn't slow us down by more than around 5 minutes.

Remember folks: Rome wasn't built in a day. We can always hunt tomorrow, it's entirely possible other groups have food, and we have samples of other stuff too (some of which are edible). We're not in immediate danger of starving, but we are in immediate danger of attack. We can attempt to be clever and get immediate gains, but any plan we make of that sort will add a substantial risk to our survival.

 

[Orisha91]

Observations after reflecting and rereading:

1. Given the encounter rate we've seen, finding game to hunt should be trivial. Large meaty beasties are plentiful, we already found two today.
2. We've gotten really lucky with rolls thus far. If we keep going into combat as unprepared as we have been, we will die soon.
   1. The longer we are away from camp the more likely we are to enter combat.
3. We'll be much more effective once we know waterwalking. This should be our very top training priority. (we'd likely have been able to waterwalk with the gator and be back at camp by now, could have avoided the spiderbear, etc)
4. Gator parts can be used, even if spoiled, as bait
5. We really don't want to be out and moving at dark. That way leads to death, especially carrying a bunch of raw meat.
6. Our priority right now is getting home safely. This is our utmost concern.
7. On daylight, we should err on the side of caution. It may be hard to even find our village after dark.
8. We should start encourage/compliment Keiko whenever she suggests a good idea. We want her to do that more.

Because of 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7, I'm leaning towards completely abandoning the gator with 4 making me think we should attempt to use chakra to slice off a limb for a few minutes, so long as the cutting and carrying process doesn't slow us down by more than around 5 minutes.

Remember folks: Rome wasn't built in a day. We can always hunt tomorrow, it's entirely possible other groups have food, and we have samples of other stuff too (some of which are edible). We're not in immediate danger of starving, but we are in immediate danger of attack. We can attempt to be clever and get immediate gains, but any plan we make of that sort will add a substantial risk to our survival.

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This seems reasonable enough. The intelligence we provide might be a good deal more thorough than that of the others anyway. Especially the suspicious place we came across.

I say we bail for now; our success rate should increase next time.

 

[Icehawk78]

Given the amount of time Windgator has been dead, my initial reaction is to knock out a tooth/claw from the gator (spending no more than 5 min on this) and then attempt to remove a leg from the spiderbear for inspection at a safer point in time (spending Chakra if necessary to amputate in 10 min or less). Then, book it home as quickly as possible.

 

[faflec]

It's been an hour since they fought the spiderbear so chances are it's nowhere in sight. It would be stupid for them to go back, get food from the thing, then walk back.

Don't be stupid.

 

[eaglejarl]

Could we maintain a clone and send it beyond out line of sight back to camp

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No.

When we have an Hidden Village and a training process for future genin, can it include information useful to the first missions of a genin, for example, field survival training, so in the event that they have a multiday mission that takes them outside the village, we don't need to provide money for boarding or force their jōnin sensei to teach them basic survival skills in situ? Especially if we plan to be anywhere near allies with Konoha and will have our genin taking their Chūnin Exams in the Forest of Death?

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Yes, that can be included. It's a lot more important for the Village Hidden in the Swamp than the Village Hidden in the Leaves.

Initial thoughts: Well, that was eventful. We've survived many close death experiences, I don't like that. Related: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY CHAKRA.

So, I did some brief research on field dressing aligators (read: googled "how to field dress an aligator").

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Ah, yes, Internet research for knowledge that you didn't have and the character has no way of knowing.

ETA: How likely is it that we are lost already? We passed one landmark we hadn't seen on the way back, we've been in combat several times (which would likely turn us around), and no comment has been made about familiar landmarks. Do we know how good our sense of direction is? Is there a roll associated with that? Would we know if we had failed such a roll?

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Respectively: You aren't, pretty good, not usually, no.

Otherwise we have to leave it. If we do this, then we should take the time to string it up or protect it somehow (bury it underground?).

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The water table is an inch or two down, so burying it isn't an option. Stringing it up could be done, but you have no rope so you'd need to use your ninja wire. It's also very unlikely that *something* couldn't get at it.

 

[Radvic]

Given the amount of time Windgator has been dead, my initial reaction is to knock out a tooth/claw from the gator (spending no more than 5 min on this) and then attempt to remove a leg from the spiderbear for inspection at a safer point in time (spending Chakra if necessary to amputate in 10 min or less). Then, book it home as quickly as possible.

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I like these ideas, the only problem being we were set upon by the beetles an hour after leaving the spiderbear, and it certainly wasn't a great idea to harvest the spiderbear while already carrying the gator.

Now it's probably worth knocking out a tooth or claw though. That shouldn't be too hard. Nice thinking.

In retrospect, we should plan for the unexpected better. It would have been better to carve up the gator back at the shelter than now (or, even better yet, after we first caught it).

 

[eaglejarl]

Given the amount of time Windgator has been dead, my initial reaction is to knock out a tooth/claw from the gator (spending no more than 5 min on this) and then attempt to remove a leg from the spiderbear for inspection at a safer point in time (spending Chakra if necessary to amputate in 10 min or less). Then, book it home as quickly as possible.

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By the way, everyone should thank @Icehawk78 for the spiderbear encounter as s/he gave me the idea. :>

It's been an hour since they fought the spiderbear so chances are it's nowhere in sight. It would be stupid for them to go back, get food from the thing, then walk back.

Don't be stupid.

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But do be nice.

In other news, I just talked with @AugSphere about XP awards, and have edited the total into the post. I'll repeat it here so you don't need to go back: "Congratulations on your shiny new 15 XP!"

EDIT: May I strongly suggest getting waterwalking? The other two can; had you been able to as well, the group probably could have moved 4x faster.

 

[transfuturist]

One explanation would be that there's something deeper in the swamp that's recently arrived and is dangerous enough that it's been pushing apex predators out of their normal hunting ranges."

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LIKE A SHOGGOTH CULT

HE USED THE SPIDERBEAR NOW HE'S USING THE SHOGGOTH

 

[Radvic]

Alright, since we've got XP, we've got options, and we definitely want to just not die on the way back. Playing chicken with death is a bad idea. Knowing we have XP to spend makes me want to decrease the amount of time spent harvesting the gator, probably ignoring it completely, since we'll be able to hunt much more effectively after a level up. As to XP uses, we obviously want waterwalking. I'd also suggest chakra adhesion, for sheer versatility (and one XP isn't a large cost), and awareness since it's been rolled literally every encounter. Beyond that, I assume there's some limitations on how we can spend our XP (e.g. can't suddenly become expert doctors/sealmasters). With that in mind, it may be worth attempting to create an earth jutsu (for versatility). Beyond that it MIGHT be worth getting a little more Taijutsu, but I'm unsure about that (it's expensive and we could spend it on awareness or social defenses). We outfight gators pretty handily and go toe to toe with Spiderbears. If our team can assist us and we see the threat coming, then we're already fairly set on pure combat capability, so long as we're not ambushed (hence awareness). We can also decide if we want Knowledge: Deadly Swamp. It'd probably help out a fair bit. Here's my proposal:

[X] Plan Live to fight another day (details in post #1748)
This plan involves us getting back to base as soon and safely as possible. We spend less then 2 minutes harvesting what we can from the gator, then return to camp. At camp, we provide our report and invest in new skills. We are also fine with the QMs using our Chakra if the situation calls for it.

Harvest attempts:

• Knock out some teeth and claws

Return strategies:

• Use the same strategy we used before picking up the gator to advance and check for threats. If possible, keep every part of our surroundings observed by at least two of us at all times

Report:

• Everything mentioned in last vote
• Keiko's observation of apex predators
• Dry materials for fire potential
• Encourage Keiko to make any other observations she's made but withheld because she thinks they're not good
• Observation on presence of many predators, and thus plentiful meat.
• Ability of Hazou to mass produce maps

XP spending

• Ask Shikigami before for suggestions and available training before investing in anything aside from waterwalking. Get waterwalking as fast as possible.
• Waterwalking 1 [1]
• Awareness 3 [4]
• Intelligence 2 [8] Wits 2 [8]
• Awareness 4 [12]
• Chakra Adhesion 1 [13]
• Resist Indimidate 1 [14]
• Knowledge: Deadly Swamp 1 [15]
• Keep 3 XP booked

Updated 12/20/2015 10 PM PST - Intelligence replaced with wits (spreadsheet had confused me, I had originally intended wits when writing)
Updated 12/21/2015 8 PM PST - Removed suggested build, replaced with asking Shikigami about training possibilities and benefits. We'll vote on builds when it's time, now we just want to survive getting back to camp. Also any additional knowledge we gain in the next update can and should be used towards our leveling decisions.
Note: Every bulleted item is subject to change pending further discussion. If it is changed, the rejected ideas will be edited with a strikethrough, new ideas will be placed in bold, a changelog will be kept, and a reply will be made in the current thread. I commit to updating this post as necessary three times: Sunday late evening MST, Monday evening MST, and Tuesday late evening MST.

 

[Traiden]

I agree with this plan. I give you my support.
[X]Radvic