- Location
- Yes.
I was thinking more "Jiraya leaves those notes with the Toad courier at the Pangolin's embassy" or something like that.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
They aren't idiots. They know that Keiko is part of the Goketsu, and if they give it to Noburi (another member of the Goketsu) it's going to get back to Kei.
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
Which is why it makes sense for Jiraiya to leave the notes on the human path.
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Also these are Jiraiya's notes, not the Toads', so the Toads would have to confiscate Jiraiya's notes in express intent of violating his Will if they wanted to keep them from us, which isn't out of the question but sounds kind of OOC for a clan that had a good relationship with its summoner.
Tua
鸡肉面条汤
- Location
- شوربة الدجاج المعكرونة
Imagine a world where Keiko would have contracted the Otters instead of the Pangolins.
We'd be paying off our house with Party Trick seals instead of genocide.
Though knowing our luck, summons passing through the Otter's territority would get jealous of how it looks and form a huge alliance to try to conquer them and steal the pretty lights.
Because being Keiko is suffering.
We'd be paying off our house with Party Trick seals instead of genocide.
Though knowing our luck, summons passing through the Otter's territority would get jealous of how it looks and form a huge alliance to try to conquer them and steal the pretty lights.
Because being Keiko is suffering.
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Hey @eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail I thought of a new way for you guys to torture us. Tell us how much XP we got before the update. There's many things we can extrapolate out of that. 
- Location
- Under a Rock
If force walls work for cutting down trees, we need to use them for removing stumps as well. Just a few deep cuts to remove a pyramid from the dirt containing the stump and maybe the root ball.
To hold the seals absolutely still, get a giant log and cut handles for one of the larger pangolins. Affix seals to the log.
To hold the seals absolutely still, get a giant log and cut handles for one of the larger pangolins. Affix seals to the log.
My main concern with using force walls right now is that they are 4m*4m. Thats the size of the room I'm in right now.
Furthermore I believe-but am not certain- that the seals generate the force wall such that the seal elements are in the middle of the sides of the resulting force wall, meaning you have to have the seals more than 2m away from you lest the wall cuts into you/fails to form.
Axe said:
That thing would have a 10+m handle.
I am also very afraid of showing the Pangolins a seal that cuts through anything, while also blocking anything.
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
If the other QMs agree with you I would be a bit disappointed, bit I would also be completely understanding. It is merely a short line and if retconning it not only saves you spoons, but also actually makes more sense for how the three of you envision Jiraiya's character and the functioning of the world as a whole, then a not perfectly thought out and minor commitment really shouldn't keep you from writing things as you feel they should be written.
Why not both? Jiraiya the spymaster of Hiruzen Sarutobi may well have passed on most relevant 7th Path info to the Tower. Jiraiya the aged and experienced summoner could have kept educational notes for any potential ally or successor. And Jiraiya the author and researcher may have kept notes or even essays worth of stuff on this important part of his life.
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- Location
- Under a Rock
The log could be placed like the strap on a shield.
I'm... not certain that force shields are gamechangers like skywalkers. If so, we can clear it without them. Two people hold a pole.
TaliesinSkye
Occasional Editor
- Location
- Northeast Ohio, United States
It might be useful, for instance it tells us there's other kinds of Pangolins that might not be so xenophobic that we could try to contact.
- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Sorry to be part of the dragging the J man. As for why he had the notes I would assume that he kept all his sensitive documents on the 7th path. Since he knew he might die in the coming battle ported over and then gave them to us
- Location
- Pacific standard
Why are people acting like different sizes of pangs is a surprise? Keiko is contracted with some big ones (Pank), medium ones (the feminist rollers leader), and several small ones too (Panda/the ninja pang).
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
I was under the impression that was a matter of age.
- Location
- Kiev, Ukraine
There were other kinds of Pangolins 40 years ago.
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
- Location
- Ginnungagap.
- Pronouns
- S/H/T
[x] Mentor: Karanium
This but unironically.
This but unironically.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I cannot imagine any reason why Jiraiya wouldn't have at least some degree of notes on the Seventh Path assuming he was the type of person who liked to keep a journal which he... seems to have been?
There are still other type of pangolins present canon.
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Vecht
Self-Requested Ban
- Location
- Snarksville, Snarkland
Don't forget the ones with feathers and beaks.
TaliesinSkye
Occasional Editor
- Location
- Northeast Ohio, United States
*wince* Yeah, we should see if they're still around. Might not be. Unless we know they're not from somewhere?
- Location
- Potato land
Here's a random thought from someone too busy this past week to read any of the thread, about modelling smart and competent people.
I assume that the way the QMs model, say, Ami, is that they look at an event, and ask themselves: Would Ami have predicted this ahead of time? They look at a particular political strategy employed by someone: Would Ami have thought of this and accounted for it. I don't think there's a better way of doing it while keeping spoon consumption at realistic levels.
The thought I had was that a way to improve this, is to assign some difficulty to the task, and roll for it, preferably with the remote possibility of a natural 1. That might seem like it would lead to unrealistic outcomes - surely Ami wouldn't miss something fairly obvious - but I think this perception simply doesn't account for the size of the problem space. Ami is undoubtedly doing a great many things, juggling a lot of spinning plates, trying to model tons of visible and invisible actors, and generally keeping very busy. She has a spoon limit as well and will start making mistakes as she runs out. Nobody is above conservation of energy.
This thought was brought to you by having to deal with the heavy fallout of a very smart and competent person with a spotless track record making an obvious and critical mistake, simply because they took on too many responsibilities and ran out of spoons to cover it all.
I assume that the way the QMs model, say, Ami, is that they look at an event, and ask themselves: Would Ami have predicted this ahead of time? They look at a particular political strategy employed by someone: Would Ami have thought of this and accounted for it. I don't think there's a better way of doing it while keeping spoon consumption at realistic levels.
The thought I had was that a way to improve this, is to assign some difficulty to the task, and roll for it, preferably with the remote possibility of a natural 1. That might seem like it would lead to unrealistic outcomes - surely Ami wouldn't miss something fairly obvious - but I think this perception simply doesn't account for the size of the problem space. Ami is undoubtedly doing a great many things, juggling a lot of spinning plates, trying to model tons of visible and invisible actors, and generally keeping very busy. She has a spoon limit as well and will start making mistakes as she runs out. Nobody is above conservation of energy.
This thought was brought to you by having to deal with the heavy fallout of a very smart and competent person with a spotless track record making an obvious and critical mistake, simply because they took on too many responsibilities and ran out of spoons to cover it all.
- Location
- Under a Rock
One improvement available if the user is 20ft tall is to move the handholds between the seals.
That might make it hard to use without slicing yourself, since in that case, if you point the sharp end away from you (to apply to a tree), you also point a sharp end at you.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Sorry to hear it! I've been on both sides of that situation and it's infuriating either way.
Yes, that would be a more realistic way to model characters. I'm disinclined to do it, since we would end up getting a lot of salt about "How could [person] have missed this?! It's so obvious! Clearly, they're just incompetent and the QMs are unfair literal genies who explicitly want to screw us over and I'm quitting!"
Obviously, that wouldn't happen every time -- in general it would stop at "incompetent" -- but we would have to deal with the full panoply every so often. That gets wearing.