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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rational rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
How many TFP do we need before a giant meteor takes out Hidden Leaf and massively disrupts food production in the Elemental Nations? How many TFP is a post saying "We're invincible!" worth?
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Depends, how much sealing research are you planning to do when you get back?
Very few. Too general and insufficiently actionable. Now acting like you're invincible...
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
All of it. But don't worry, we'll also be doing fun and interesting things like creating chakra beast farms for Noburi so that we can have Shadow Clones up 24/7.
I'm compiling a list of ongoing schemes. They're starting to get annoying to keep track of. Ping me with additions.
Long-term:
Long-term:
- FOOM
- Project Necromancy
- Gouketsu Education Department/Nara Futures
- Civillian-usable sealtech
- Industrial revolution
- Sanitation
- Flying Machines
- Scroll Hunt
- Otters (Northern Sand, around Fang)
- Krakens (Northern Lightning)
- Kangaroos (River)
- Squirrels (Neck)
- Research
- ESP (aka Chakdar)
- Seal Activator -> LBF -> ARS -> MARS -> STARS
- Improved Capacity Storage Seals -> Improved Capacity Macerators -> Improved Exit-velocity Macerators -> Megalovania Seals
- Politics
- Turning People
- Neji
- Sasuke
- Mending Bridges
- Asuma
- Naruto
- Collecting Adoption Slots
- Turning People
- Economics
- Naked Jaybird
- Mari subverting the Merchant Council
- Iron Mine
- Grape Farms
- Chocolate Monopoly
- Seventh Path Trading
- Help build the Aqueduct.
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Keeping the world at nominal peace so we're not interrupted in any of this
We're going to need to triage projects and write out specific, useful proposals as well separate projects into short term, medium term, and long term.
Oh. Also, let's start a new sealing tech tree because the last one was a complete mess.
- Air Dome Seals [DONE]
- Skywalker Seal
- Banshee Slayer Seal [DONE]
- Silence Mine Seal [DONE]
- Heart Monitor Seal
- Casino Seal: Sonic [DONE]
- Casino Seal: Light [DONE]
- Casino Seal: Haptic [DONE]
- Skywalker Seal
- Chakra-use Trigger Seal
- ESP Seal
- Cooling Seal
- Cryogrenade Seal
- Directional Cryogrenade Seal
- Earth Dome Seals [DONE]
- Earth Wall Seals
- Air Freshener Seal [DONE]
- Explosion Seal [DONE]
- Shaped Charge Seal
- Force Wall Seals
- Force Blade Seals
- Goo Bomb Seal
- Directional Goo Bomb Seal
- Enforce Normal Gravity Seal
- Gravity Multiplier Seal
- Gravity Emitter Seal
- Personal Gravity Seal
- Subliminal Gravity Increase Seal ["Get Fucked" Group]
- Heating Seal
- Thermogrenade Seal
- Directional Thermogrenade Seal
- Railgun Seal
- 5 Seal Barrier Seals
- Underwater Movement Seals
- Party Trick Seal [DONE]
- Casino Seal: Light [DONE]
- Dazzle Seal
- Strobelight Seal
- Flashbang Seal
- Lubricant Bomb Seal
- Directional Lubricant Bomb Seal
- Lesser Barrier Formation Seals (LBF)
- Activation Relay Seal (ARS)
- Multiple Activation Relay Seal (MARS)
- Triggered Activation Relay Seal (TARS)
- Substitution-Triggered Activation Relay Seal (STARS)
- Seal Inhibitor Seal
- Pressure Trigger Seal
- Proximity Trigger Seal
- Sonic Trigger Seal
- Chakra-use Trigger Seal
- Relay Destruction Seal
- Seal Activation Zone 1d Seals
- Seal Activation Zone 2d Seals
- Seal Activation Zone 3d Seals
- Chime Seal Variants [DONE]
- Alarm Seal [DONE]
- Banshee Seal [DONE]
- Banshee Fucker Seal
- Casino Seal: Sonic [DONE]
- Flashbang Seal
- Inner Ear Disturbance Seal
- Subliminal Inner Ear Disturbance Seal ["Get Fucked" Group]
- Storage Seal [DONE]
- PMYF Seal v1 [DONE]
- Macerator Seal v1 [DONE]
- Macerator Seal v2 [DONE]
- Purifier Seal [DONE]
- Tunneler's Friend Seal [DONE]
- Air Cleaner Seal
- Desalinator Seal
- Implosion Seal
- Increased Capacity Storage Seal
- Usumatsu/Macerator Hybrid Seal
- Disposal Seal
- Dessicator Seal
- Mineral Refinement Seal
- Variable Store-point Storage Seal
- Variable Unstore-point Storage Seal
- Variable Unstore Speed-direction Seal
- Megalovania Seal
- Air-deoxygenation Seal ["Get Fucked" Group]
- Copper-scent Seal ["Get Fucked" Group]
- Casino Seals: Haptic [DONE]
- ESP Seal
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- Location
- The Void
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Can't we already do that with Living Roots?
Omake: Use Your Words
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/They
As Hazō finished up his second-to-last Goo Bomb seal, the building around him shook, the result of yet another exam team taking a page out of Neji's book and deploying medium-scale explosives to the task of secretly gathering information. This particular team decided the best way to gather the information was to cause an evacuation of the barracks, and then to rifle through the other teams' supplies in the chaos and confusion. Unfortunately for Hazō, this had the effect of interrupting his precision imbuing process. Feeling the dreadfully familiar feeling of perpetual falling, he saw the room fade away from him, and the sight that he hoped was never real in the first place, of a multifaceted behemoth, all he could hear was the sound of the entire universe exhaling, and then saw nothing but a red line of the Ω seal.
With a start, Hazō awoke, with both Kei and Noburi staring at him in confusion. A second later, he realized that it was because all he could hear was the laughter of a madman, which also seemed to be coming from his mouth. A quick review of his mental lists revealed why this might be, as many of his countless contingency plans for keeping himself and the rest of the team safe had been mentally replaced with countless red lines of sealing, which somehow he knew had only one real meaning - unnecessary due to accidental immortality.
Quickly racing out of the barracks and through the city, Kei and Noburi followed, shouting after Hazō's quickly retreating back, with no response other than louder laughter, until he eventually stopped in the middle of their previous meeting place off the coast. As he finally stopped, Noburi immediately summoned up his water whip and restrained Hazō, who seemed entirely unconcerned.
"What the hell is wrong with you? We didn't even have time to secure our possessions, we're going to have to waste so much time verifying that those are all fine, now!"
Looking back, rather peacefully, Hazō simply responded, "Let them try. Nothing can hurt us now. Nothing can ever hurt us again. This whole exam is a sham, there's no chance of Jiraiya allowing us to not get promoted, and since we no longer need worry about physical safety, we're free to put our efforts that would otherwise have been spent inventing countless contingencies upon contingencies just to keep us barely alive, we're now free to instead expend that effort all towards our true goals instead, of reshaping the world around us in our image. And I know exactly how!"
Looking back and forth to either other, both Kei and Noburi, fear and confusion etched in their eyes. "Hazō... I recognize from your tone that you are speaking with strong conviction, and that you believe what you are saying to be the truth, but the words that you are saying are making me very concerned for your mental health. None of the things you are saying mesh with observed reality, which you do not frequently have a problem with recognizing. Could you explain what you mean in a different way to help me understand better?"
"Verbal sealing. I've figured out how to write seals with my chakra in the very air that my speech uses, and further have the ability to overwrite the minds of others with my own. Obey and we shall rewrite this world."
At that, the team set out and began to pacify the village, using only their words.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
We "can", but we haven't actually practiced it at all. And we'd also need to incorporate the associated skills and techniques: Airborne poisons, air filter mask, noncombustible smoke cloud (via macerator, natch).
@eaglejarl
What's the current QM-stance on whether gauntlets and macerators stack? It's been both ways in previous rules editions, but the current doc doesn't specify.
What's the current QM-stance on whether gauntlets and macerators stack? It's been both ways in previous rules editions, but the current doc doesn't specify.
[X] Training Hazou: Sleigh of Hand
[X] Action Plan: Preparing For the Event
Hazou's Thoughts/Plans on how Our Combined Teams should Prepare for the Event
Discussion of High-Scoring Teams
Celebrate Jiraiya's Birthday and Brief Him on Developments
Cheating the Leadership exam advice for Keiko
[X] Action Plan: Preparing For the Event
Hazou's Thoughts/Plans on how Our Combined Teams should Prepare for the Event
- Discuss this as a group of six since we are working with Team Kurenai
- Hazou has the following Theories/Recommendations
- Theories on the Nature of this Event
- It is an almost sure bet we are going to have to participate in this "high class party" in some way. The preparations are too elaborate; there would be no point in all this set-up if we only had to sneak around sentries and avoid notice.
- Recommended Preparations for the Event
- Since "easy mode" is off, we may be expected to show up with our own fancy dress clothing and maybe even our own forged invitations.
- RECOMMENDATION: We should all make sure we have clothing appropriate for infiltrating a high class party and review our etiquette lessons.
- A party requires guests and servants. Possibly the guests may be made up of only exam participants and proctors, but it's likely some civilians will be needed for some roles, if only as servants.
- RECOMMENDATION: Tomorrow we should check out places that lease temporary servants and places that could have been contracted to supply food in this amount. There's a lot of traffic in and out, possibly we could just linger around and follow some civilians going out, then question them once they're away from the proctors.
- We need a better floorplan and there's no reason we can't get one. A place as big as that one will have had large numbers of servants working there over the years, not to mention people who have been there as guests or residents.
- RECOMMENDATION: Go track down some people who have been on the estate and get them to help fill out a floorplan.
- Since "easy mode" is off, we may be expected to show up with our own fancy dress clothing and maybe even our own forged invitations.
- Hazou's Proposed Division of Labor
- Inuzuka and Noburi should linger around the mansion tomorrow, track any apparent non-proctors entering and leaving, trail them to their workplaces or supply runs, and engage them to get them to talk. Inuzuka goes because he can easily track people; Noburi has the social talents to get them to open up and talk about what they know, perhaps even convincingly pretending to be a Mist ninja event participant.
- Aburame and Keiko should go around to businesses that might be supplying the party with food, servants, and alcohol to see if they can nail down start time, expected number of guests, potential for infiltration as servants, and any special requests that might have gone out. Both of them are highly analytical and most likely to be able to make something out of quantitative clues.
- Hyuga and Hazou should go quiz other wealthy households and their servants to try and get a better layout of the Nari mansion as well as found out what their peers and/or may know about all this... will civilians be utilized in this event like they were in the last one? Hazou goes because he's good at bullshitting and coming out with convincing-sounding stories for our questions, and Hyuga goes because she can do a "refined young lady" act in her sleep and get "gentleman of quality" falling over themselves to tell her whatever she wants to know.
- (Unstated) And hey, this means that we watch each other and no team is tempted to hold back information, funny that.
- Theories on the Nature of this Event
Discussion of High-Scoring Teams
- After making plans on how to prepare for the Event, check with Noburi and Keiko to see if they're okay discussing rival top tier teams with our new allies. If they are, proceed.
- We have information about some of the top-scoring teams to-date, and would like to cooperate with Team Kurenai about ways to take them down if encountered prior to or during the Event. Hazou has suggested strategies.
- If these are top competitors, it's very possible we'll run across some doing their own investigation tomorrow.
- Team Kongo from Cloud is known to have massive combat power with Hazama Kyu who can call down lightning bolts and a taijutsu expert. But what we're really worried about is Hotoke Eru, their clanless team member who is known to be a genjutsu expert.
- Team Kurenei has access to to unique sensory abilities that could foil genjutsu. Aburame tags him with bugs, Inuzuke takes his scent, etc.
- Likely their team strategy revolves around Hotoke isolating enemies so that Hazama can safely call down lightning, then Ryugamine plays clean-up.
- Strategy should be to go after and subdue Hotoke, using him as shield against area effects.
- Team Chinin from Rock has a number of earth manipulation techniques
- Take to the roofs immediately if you suspect they're in the area. In a social setting, try to move things to the second floor so they can't act through ground.
- Tama Ruri sounds like the brains of the operation, but she has a "tunnel vision" flaw. Hazou suggests deliberately creating a mystery for her to solve, perhaps some codes that say nothing valuable, to distract her from our real plans.
- Team Mugiwara from Hot Springs is supposed to be a top scorer, but we don't know much about their bloodlines or clans.
- Tell them what we do know; suggest we should just avoid if possible since so little is known.
- Team Genso from Waterfall is supposed to have Sakamoto Shiina who can turn invisible, sword master, and a ninja we don't have much intelligence on.
- (points at team Kurenai) An invisible ninja sounds like your thing to stop. Keep an eye out for someone who you can sense but not see, point him out, and we'll join you in tackling him.
- Team Retsu from Mist is made up of three ninja from our old clans and we believe they'll be top scorers. We know something about them from the old days.
- Kurosawa Shin is a taijutsu expert. He thinks he's smarter than he is and prone to arrogance if he thinks he's got your number. Watch out; he's a pretty good liar.
- Wakahisa Kiri fancies herself a social butterfly. The rest of her team will depend on her for chakra fill-ups, so lure her away if you can.
- Mori Ana is... here Hazou equivocates and let's Keiko add whatever she wants to add
- Open up floor from Team Kurenai if they have any ideas on how to deliberately seek one of these teams out and steal their word halves or otherwise mess them up in advance of the Event. They're the tracking experts.
- Also open floor on how much information to share on these guys with other Leaf teams. It's to our advantage to put targets on their back as much as possible, but maybe there are reasons to hold back?
- Goals: Follow up on the Oyabun's tip-off and learn whatever we can about Bloodrage. We trust he wouldn't be wasting our time unless it was important.
- This is second in priority to preparing for the next Event, but still a high priority and worth our time.
- Likely hit it the afternoon of the 10th, after we've done investigations above for the Event.
- Methods:
- Get Hinata to sneak a peek at their room and persons (this we will bribe her for as a special favor).
- If she is hesitant/curious about why we're interested in a team already out of the running, tell her honestly that we received a tip-off that these guys might be of interest to the Hokage in some way and we're following up as Leaf ninja, not exam participants.
- The one thing they seemed really into before was the games that Hazou ran for them. They specifically got so into it they forgot about village rivalries.
- Maybe play that up, Hazou to act as a game geek and show interest if Demon Country has anything similar.
- He's thinking of doing some rules revisions, maybe get their feedback, would it be good for kids in the Academy, etc.
- Chat them up about Demon Country and their sensei or whatever else they'll open up about.
- Noburi and Hazou work together, Noburi to find something they care about and Hazou to show complete sympathy toward it.
- Take notes on their mannerisms, habits, identifying markings, etc.
- Try to get them into a bragging contest about powerful ninjas associated with themselves.
- If they let drop anything about Jashin, follow it up as best as possible.
- Get Hinata to sneak a peek at their room and persons (this we will bribe her for as a special favor).
Celebrate Jiraiya's Birthday and Brief Him on Developments
- Goals:
- Make him feel happy and less stressed?
- Toss a potential lead his way.
- Methods:
- Schedule a meeting with Jiraiya for the evening of the 10th (like ask to spend dinner with him?).
- Get the present from Taiyoku, and prepare some cake or other good foodstuff to take with us. Celebrate his birthday.
- Tell him how we got a similar gift for Mari and that we hope he knows that his family will be here with him.
- Maybe a vague reference to hoping to meet other people he considers family, referring to Naruto without saying the name or being too specific.
- Present him with a gift from (oblique reference to the Oyabun without saying oyabun or yakuza)) and tell him the story behind Kurohige Ranmaru's fleet.
- Hazou will theorize that it's a message about willingness to make an ally out of someone you have recently opposed.
- As the party closes, let J know there's a little other business. The "gentleman who sent you the bottle" had another tip for us, maybe not Exam related.
- Let Jiraiya take the lead on what kind of security measures or codes he wants to use, but let him know we think some security is in order. If he wants, he and Keiko could even reverse-summon themselves.
- Once OPSEC measures are in place, report to Jiraiya the Oyabun's direction to look into Team Bloodrage and anything we have learned to date.
- Before investigation, their denial of knowledge of something called "Jashin" was the only remarkable thing about them.
- Since the Oyabun does nothing by accident, there's probably something important here, and maybe it doesn't have anything to do with the Exam.
Cheating the Leadership exam advice for Keiko
- Hazou had a couple ideas for ways she could get around some of the issues after their last conversation about it.
- Summoning a competent pangolin for "Training" that she asks what they would do in the situation, and then optimizing their plan.
- This would let her fulfill her desired role in a team even in the position of a team leader.
- It may cost her points for not actually doing as instructed, or it may just be seen as a clever workaround for a Mori.
- Summoning a competent pangolin for "Training" that she asks what they would do in the situation, and then optimizing their plan.
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- Location
- Yes.
It's literally in my sig. Literally. In. My. Sig.
Found it. Put the relevant info in the new tree.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
@MadScientist You can probably put skywalkers under Seal Syntax considering they use chakra adhesion to activate.
They don't interact with other seals, so not seal syntax. If anything it would be chakra sensor. But the categories are going to constantly overlap and there's nothing we can do abou-
Wait. I guess I could put the same seal under multiple branches? Err... Let me look at how messy this gets and get back to you.
- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
A useful tool would be a seal that translates some other input type into a seal activation. Something that we could slap on top of a normal seal to make it, say, react to physical pressure.
Obviously inefficient for mass-production purposes, but a good way to test how useful a seal would be if we did change the input type.
- Location
- Europe
My problem with this scenario is that there are 150 genin around, are they all supposed to sneak in one after the other? All at the same time? Also the estate is rented for three days, so the high class party might just be a part of the whole event and we are too focused on it.
Also what about the points? Last two events gave us quite clear objectives how to get points, infiltrating the party and getting an object/info doesn't really translate well into getting X points.
Don't really have a problem with the rest of the plan, we can only follow up on the whole party thing for now.
Updated, doesn't look too messy to me (but I've been staring at it for a while so maybe I've acclimatised).
E: I might end up alphabetising the branches for easier navigation...
E2: And nesting all the branches in spoilers...
E: I might end up alphabetising the branches for easier navigation...
E2: And nesting all the branches in spoilers...
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E: Yep, that looks much better. Copied onto the tech tree post.
- Air Dome Seals [DONE]
- Skywalker Seal
- Banshee Slayer Seal [DONE]
- Silence Mine Seal [DONE]
- Casino Seal: Sonic
- Casino Seal: Light
- Skywalker Seal
- Chakra-use Trigger Seal
- Earth Dome Seals [DONE]
- Air Freshener Seal [DONE]
- Explosion Seal [DONE]
- Shaped Charge Seal
- Force Wall Seals
- Goo Bomb Seal
- 5 Seal Barrier Seals
- Party Trick Seal [DONE]
- Casino Seal: Light
- Lesser Barrier Formation Seals
- Activation Relay Seals
- Seal Inhibitor Seal
- Pressure Trigger Seal
- Proximity Trigger Seal
- Sonic Trigger Seal
- Chakra-use Trigger Seal
- Chime Seal Variants [DONE]
- Alarm Seal [DONE]
- Banshee Seal [DONE]
- Banshee Fucker Seal
- Casino Seal: Sonic
- Storage Seal [DONE]
- PMYF Seal v1 [DONE]
- Macerator Seal v1 [DONE]
- Macerator Seal v2 [DONE]
- Purifier Seal [DONE]
- Tunneler's Friend Seal [DONE]
- Implosion Seal
- Increased Capacity Storage Seal
E: Yep, that looks much better. Copied onto the tech tree post.
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- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I've just read the latest version of your signature. It is eerily plausible that Discord should be a member of the protagonist party.
- Location
- Earth
Isn't this a violation of our agreement with Neji?