Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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Which strengths are you thinking of?
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Parallel processing of actionable information to achieve a short term goal. There isn't enough information to really optimize things when we aren't beating people up. Then when we do beat people up or interact with anyone they are just faceless npcs. Honestly this arc feels like a meaningless fetch quest that keeps dragging on. Go here and talk to this guy who you will never see again. Then go there.
Oh, I think you might be surprised. If people are interested in what's going on they'll talk about it, even if no vote is needed.
Cariyaga
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Personally, I'd be fine with "To Be Continued" -- it at least allows us the option of leaving the plan to continue, whereas "What do you do?" means that we're never going to not make a plan because we're, shall we say, "concerned" about what you guys would do without a plan.
e: I still kind of lowkey want Hazou to get involved in the Tactics division (if one exists, or start one if not) of Leaf. It'd be cool to work on developing tactics to teach.
I would be more concerned about leaving us to our own ends. Who knows what shenanigans we'll come up with if we don't have to panic over plans???
e: I still kind of lowkey want Hazou to get involved in the Tactics division (if one exists, or start one if not) of Leaf. It'd be cool to work on developing tactics to teach.
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Edit: It's probably more since this was a long time ago, and Noburi's gotten better. Still, it's a benchmark.
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I am not going to lie, I was disappointed that no one was interested in discussing the uplift plan I posted. Clearly everyone is here for the serial 1to1 discussions about feelings with team members.
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I like the idea of votes in the middle of an update; thanks for that suggestion.
As to the "to be continued", the assumption is that you don't *have* to re-vote but you can if you want. If you don't then the old plan will be carried out, but you have the option to update it if so desired. To me this is strictly better than not letting people vote, and it prevents the situation where new information is revealed in the course of the update that the players cannot take advantage of because it wasn't in the original plan.
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Ere we go ere we go
First; Your end goal makes Wakahisa terminally unable to contribute value, even outside of being ninja.
(Can't generate chakra, can only recycle chakra)
Alternatively, it could make algae farms the only valuable commodity and drive humans out of the marketplace. It's confusing.
World vision will probably be rejected on the basis that Leaf has other uses for us instead of that long term assignement, but we can probably pick a village at random to focus our efforts on. Every other suggestion will have to wait until we own Leaf, so there's that.
Peace Corps is a really good idea, but I want to add the part where we build infrastructure in foreign nations. That way, we can explain to the warmongers that this generosity will benefit us because we built their civilian infrastructure and eventually village infrastructure and therefore have them by the balls.
I also personally want to use this opportunity to build working relationships with foreign ninja so we can slowly form alliances made from friendship and not scraps of paper.
Uplift Mofo sounds like what we're going to end up in anyway.
Modular MEW shelter sounds like something we have already. Expanded design pretty much only takes coordination, so something we could do with large D Ranks
Wood Release...is either impossible or the post scarcity engine right there.
UGSLP working on solids sounds really difficult to me, but maybe fluids would be simpler?
Deconstrcutor sounds interesting but difficult.
Multi compartment storage seals is something we'll have to build anyway.
Recharging seals is a good idea
Programming language in seal sounds interesting, but may be exported to an external machine.
UGSLP sounds like it does that to an extent, but we'd probably have to discover elements first.
Black box seal is a fantastic idea that we should get on right now. Maybe modified explosive seal to explode upon disconnection with adhesive, turned down as far as we can?
Interestingly, Kagome is absolutely convinced that chakra storage seals are impossible. It may come down to analysis of the Vampiric Dew bloodline to figure out how.
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We don't really try to advance long term plans without a plot hook put in front of us
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Anyway, my personal goals are the Shinobi Union, peace among the nations, and "training exercises" all over the place that happen to improve civilian lives everywhere.
Exalting someone to god hood is completely optional.
Since apparently we're talking about this now.
Exalting someone to god hood is completely optional.
Since apparently we're talking about this now.
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Meh, i would prefer he loses his position post emergency to Tsunade . the clan gains his time as a competent leader and he can contribute to making new seals. And if he kicks off the world vision adopt a village program before leaving, we have the start of what we need anyway.
Frankly he is a terrible Hokage, and will start a clan war if he continues in his current direction. While Tsunade is a conciliator who will bring the clans together.
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I would imagine that this would happen even if our particular incompetence wasn't involved. So I don't think this is a good thing.
Also, "Tsunade is a conciliator"? Where the hell does this come from?
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Well if we got them the information to save naruto we probably balanced out our other mistakes
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Oh I agree, I'm just pointing out that the situation @eaglejarl outlined would probably be what would happen if Jiraiya ever was removed from office, since I don't seem him really wanting to step down given the other options (or lack thereof).
Cariyaga
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So unrelatedly, does anyone in the party have the experience to suggest the idiom, "you're not dead until you're warm and dead"? If yes, we should spend some time preparing coldboxes for Kei to take bodies back to Konoha with -- It's possible that they could be brought back from death. Depends, I guess, on if it's possible to resucitate someone in MfDverse.
On which note:
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail If Noburi developed Medical Ninjutsu, would he get half cost to those past the first as he does with Water Ninjutsu? I assume also that Medical Ninjutsu may not be chakra boosted.
Medical Ninjutsu: Blood as Water Technique
Attribute Costs: Medical Ninjutsu * 1, Intelligence * 2
Chakra Cost: 10 chakra per second while actively moving around, 10 chakra per 30 seconds otherwise.
Description: The first precept of being a Medical Ninjutsu specialist is to keep yourself alive -- this technique aids in that. It floods the body with medical chakra, providing the blood present with oxygen and producing additional blood as necessary. It is a triage technique which must be used immediately after the wound is inflicted. It does not affect shock, pain, or physical capabilities otherwise.
Mechanics: Add the results of Blood as Water to a failed combat roll: If this would reduce the total failure class below C, the target survives as long as the technique is in use. This technique only helps against blood loss -- if your or your teammate's body is kablooey you're SOL. Unsure as to whether this technique should be allowed as a reaction, or as part of a combat attack. This technique is intended to give enough time for the user to treat themselves or the target properly after combat is over; while it's possible for them to continue in combat, any further lethal injuries guarantee death, and they cannot use this against a target that they are not able to physically touch (or, you know, touch with water if Noburi ever figures that out).
Example: Noburi rolls Water Whip to block a jounin's attack on the way out of combat:
Noburi: 34 (base) + 11 (chakra boost) + 6 (Hozuki's Mantle) + 9 (multicombat) - 3 (A-class injury) : 57d100: 2864
Jounin: ?d100: 3882
Formula says: -42.6...
Ordinarily, an additional B-class injury would be enough to kill Noburi, but by using this technique he may roll a sum of dice equal to Blood as Water and add them to his roll, resulting in instead, the following:
57d100+13d100: 70d100: 3542
Formula Says: -13.38...
Having reduced the "injury" below C class total, Noburi survives (though he retains C-class penalties to further rolls), surviving perhaps until he can find somewhere to treat his injuries properly.
On which note:
@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail If Noburi developed Medical Ninjutsu, would he get half cost to those past the first as he does with Water Ninjutsu? I assume also that Medical Ninjutsu may not be chakra boosted.
Medical Ninjutsu: Blood as Water Technique
Attribute Costs: Medical Ninjutsu * 1, Intelligence * 2
Chakra Cost: 10 chakra per second while actively moving around, 10 chakra per 30 seconds otherwise.
Description: The first precept of being a Medical Ninjutsu specialist is to keep yourself alive -- this technique aids in that. It floods the body with medical chakra, providing the blood present with oxygen and producing additional blood as necessary. It is a triage technique which must be used immediately after the wound is inflicted. It does not affect shock, pain, or physical capabilities otherwise.
Mechanics: Add the results of Blood as Water to a failed combat roll: If this would reduce the total failure class below C, the target survives as long as the technique is in use. This technique only helps against blood loss -- if your or your teammate's body is kablooey you're SOL. Unsure as to whether this technique should be allowed as a reaction, or as part of a combat attack. This technique is intended to give enough time for the user to treat themselves or the target properly after combat is over; while it's possible for them to continue in combat, any further lethal injuries guarantee death, and they cannot use this against a target that they are not able to physically touch (or, you know, touch with water if Noburi ever figures that out).
Example: Noburi rolls Water Whip to block a jounin's attack on the way out of combat:
Noburi: 34 (base) + 11 (chakra boost) + 6 (Hozuki's Mantle) + 9 (multicombat) - 3 (A-class injury) : 57d100: 2864
Jounin: ?d100: 3882
Formula says: -42.6...
Ordinarily, an additional B-class injury would be enough to kill Noburi, but by using this technique he may roll a sum of dice equal to Blood as Water and add them to his roll, resulting in instead, the following:
57d100+13d100: 70d100: 3542
Formula Says: -13.38...
Having reduced the "injury" below C class total, Noburi survives (though he retains C-class penalties to further rolls), surviving perhaps until he can find somewhere to treat his injuries properly.
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I like this. It's useful but not blatantly overpowered since most causes of death are gonna involve a lot more than just blood loss (burns, blunt force trauma...). It's mostly useful for Weapons users which are Noburi's weakness (Ranged Weapons).
Cariyaga
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Yep. And it's useful to keep someone alive until he can treat them properly.
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This also sounds like it negates poisons too, or at least mitigates their effects.