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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Solonarv said:
Anko x Mari? I ship it!



I see nothing wrong with this. Then again, I was already doing it. :D



Confirmed by The Man Himself! I caught the invisitext. I still want it to happen.
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Ahahahah, that song is great. The only problem with Anko and Mari is the inherent lack of trust (and, you know, them not knowing each other). If we can accomplish that, they'd probably be quite happy with each other.
 
Solonarv said:
*srceeches* eeeek! Windows!

Fake E: I love how off-topic this thread gets.
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It is pretty great. And updates and crazy ideas (VHitH for instance) serve to get us back on topic without the need of outside influence, so it just turns into giggle-inducing silly shenanigans for maybe half a day or so at a time before someone thinks of some new panic-inducing (for the QMs) application of ninjutsu or basic sealing techniques.
 
Quick! Talk about a storage seal that does customizable fuzzy shape-matching and is tattoed on your eyeballs! :p

Which makes me think, once we get a few of our advanced storage seals we can replicate Kamui pretty well. Obito is going to be really confused when he runs into us.

Fake E: Sharingan contact lenses to mess with people's heads even more?

Fake E2: omg we can put seals on the contact lenses this is totally a good idea guise!!11!
 
Solonarv said:
Quick! Talk about a storage seal that does customizable fuzzy shape-matching and is tattoed on your eyeballs! :p

Which makes me think, once we get a few of our advanced storage seals we can replicate Kamui pretty well. Obito is going to be really confused when he runs into us.

Fake E: Sharingan contact lenses to mess with people's heads even more?

Fake E2: omg we can put seals on the contact lenses this is totally a good idea guise!!11!
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Actually, contact lens, goggles, and glasses seals don't sound like that bad of an idea...

Although as far as goggles go, the easiest method of making one would be either a metal mesh or the wooden-slat kind. I'm not sure that tinted goggles are a thing in this time period, although we could try making see-through goggles with seals. I wonder if you'd be able to cast a genjutsu through a seal in that manner?
 
Hmm, Hazou needs to figure out how encryption works. Then he can invent a secure datagram protocol. Then we can use that to connect seals together given a wireless interface.

Then we can tattoo light production seals onto his eyeballs. Then we build other seals for sensing, data processing, that can tell the light seals to project useful data into Hazou's eyes.
 
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Jello_Raptor said:
This is better than my idea
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Well, either way, as long as there's not latency, it's either going to be a hilarious way of getting Mari long-distance methods of hitting people with genjutsu or providing near-complete immunity to genjutsu for us.
1234qwerty said:
If Noburi constantly uses Vampiric Dew via the moisture in his eyes, does that make him immune to genjutsu?
Now I'm curious what happens when he uses VD on a Yamanaka mid-technique. A frozen-skeined Keiko would also give a Yamanaka a bad time, poor soul manipulators :(.
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Geez. Our team really is not friendly to the mindwalkers, is it? I don't think they would enjoy Kagome's mind any more than Hazou's or Kei's. Mari and Noburi are probably the only ones "safe" for them.
 
I think contact lenses are the best way to have seals near our eyes. They're nearly invisible, can't be knocked off, and because they're attached to the eyeball they can easily tell where the user is looking, so the user can use that to aim the seal's effect (and I need a thesaurus, apparently).

Of course, I'm a bit biased, being a contact-lens user myself.

Edit: With MedNinjutsu, we might even be able to do leave the lenses there permanently.
 
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Oooh, we should make Geordi style visors.

The seals would be etched into the backs of forehead protectors we wear as blindfolds and just project the view we'd have if we weren't wearing them. Then we can work up to augmented vision, like 360 degree views, visibility into the infrared and ultraviolent, maybe even byakugan style chakra vision.

I mean, it takes 2 weeks of use to get acquainted with upside-down vision. About that long should have us functioning with full wraparound vision. Probably twice again as long in full training mode and we should be just a capable as before, albeit with wrap around vision.

Edit: then when we figure out how to miniaturize it, we put the same seals onto contact lenses and wear identical looking forehead protectors anyway. We can even etch fiendishly complex seals that do nothing onto the back so that enemies that get the forehead protectors try to reverse engineer them and get themselves blown up.
 
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Jello_Raptor said:
Unrelatedly, have we discussed naming our team "The Seven Samurai"? Because we're ninjas and there's six of us.
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How about a number less than our current number of teammates? That way our enemies won't suspect us having any back up.

I am partial to the classic Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. It has the same theme of 'haha, we lied about our real occupation' as the samurai one AND it has doomsday connotations.
 
So, question: Do ninja respect members of religious orders? I suspect not, but if we could involve our dealings with one -- that is, our uplift stuff -- we could hide it behind divine inspiration, if a member of them was good enough at lying. ...Or if we were good enough at hiding ourselves.
 
Cariyaga said:
So, question: Do ninja respect members of religious orders? I suspect not, but if we could involve our dealings with one -- that is, our uplift stuff -- we could hide it behind divine inspiration, if a member of them was good enough at lying. ...Or if we were good enough at hiding ourselves.
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Dude... remember Hidden Mountain?

Keiko is the Pangolin summoner heir of their Messiah.

We don't have to even start a cult; we have one for the optimizing just waiting for us in less than a year. All we have to do is successfully complete Pangolin quests and Keiko's position will be indisputable beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Of course, the tricky part will be not dying or revealing to enemy ninja that she has a pact while we attempt said quests. That's true of anything we try though.

It's worth considering at least.
 
Dictator4Hire said:
Dude... remember Hidden Mountain?

Keiko is the Pangolin summoner heir of their Messiah.

We don't have to even start a cult; we have one for the optimizing just waiting for us in less than a year. All we have to do is successfully complete Pangolin quests and Keiko's position will be indisputable beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Of course, the tricky part will be not dying or revealing to enemy ninja that she has a pact while we attempt said quests. That's true of anything we try though.

It's worth considering at least.
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Well, I was more thinking about while we're in Iron contacting a local religious order and giving them the secrets of "seed drilling" through divine inspiration. But, you know, Pangolin Quest sounds good too. Although with pangolin quest, I'd like the party to have the opportunity to spar with them so they can take our measure and not send us off on Suicide Quest against things beyond our means.

...and if we're to do Pangolin Quest we definitely need more points in Tac Move and Stealth for cross-continent travel.

e: On the other hand, if the VHitSwamp managed to actually GET there with loads of genin with them past leaf and mist nin patrols, even thoroughly battered, maybe we're better off than we think and we only caught the leaf nin's attention because we weren't taking an optimal route?
 
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1234qwerty said:
Obvious problems with this idea: attracts a lot of attention, exposes our seal work, what do we gain? A possible improvement would be to use a suspension design, since it seems highly abusable with 5SB, but I'm not a civil engineer and neither is anyone in the party, unless Kagome has been holding out on us. Specialty for Akane, anyone? I mostly did this because I'm interested in Snow. We know almost nothing about it and it seems like one of the few areas where scorch squads would have a hard time picking off stragglers innocuously.
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I don't really see civil engineering as Akane's specialty.

From the projects I seen proposed, Akane's specialty is either printing automation or flight.

Do we want her to do both? Or focus on one exclusively to the other.

Printing seals can be a force multipler, but if we could fly, it can dramatically increase our safety from hunter-nins.
 
eaglejarl said:
you there with the invisible-text-finding plugin. Tell the person who just started freaking out that it was a joke, okay? No, I'm not literally going to railroad the question into a pile of narrativium, regardless of how hilarious that scene would be.
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On mobile the blank area under the paragraph is pretty noticeable, tbh

1234qwerty said:
Purely theoretically, I was struck by the idea of making a bridge between Iron and one of the islands towards Snow as a means of uplift and wanted to play around with a few numbers. It quickly became clear that making pylons from the sea floor with MEW would be chakra prohibitive(over 100 times more expensive than the method outlined below) so I focused on using the 5 seal barrier. Assuming that we use 6m by 0.3m by 0.3m MEW chunks attached together, each with its own 5SB, a mile of bridge comes to 1340 seals and 300 chakra points(MEW makes 2.85 cubic meters of granite for 6cp). If a seal takes 5 minutes to make, that's about 14 eight hour days worth. There are some ways to cheat this, like only using 5SB on every other piece or if Akane makes us a polygraph, but I digress.

Obvious problems with this idea: attracts a lot of attention, exposes our seal work, what do we gain? A possible improvement would be to use a suspension design, since it seems highly abusable with 5SB, but I'm not a civil engineer and neither is anyone in the party, unless Kagome has been holding out on us. Specialty for Akane, anyone? I mostly did this because I'm interested in Snow. We know almost nothing about it and it seems like one of the few areas where scorch squads would have a hard time picking off stragglers innocuously.

Something that came up that's related to figuring out what happened with Uzu: can we safely search the ocean floor? Assuming it's at least a mile deep, henges probably won't be strong enough to hold up to the pressure. A light source shouldn't be a problem. Maybe the pangolins have figured out submarines? Do we know about the bends? Is this problem trivial using 5SB, water tight design, and oxygen supply? If I understand 5SB correctly, a structure containing all 5 seal internally(and therefore invulnerable from outside) isn't disallowed as long as the seals are the requisite distance apart and the larger structure is entirely one object. If the support seals aren't allowed to be on the same object as the barrier seal, then they can be on rocks contained in the box, or submarine, or what have you instead.
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My first thought is that a 5SB bridge has the disadvantages of needing to be restored frequently (monthly at minimum) and being easy to sabotage.

Good thought about deep ocean diving for Uzu though, we should ask Mari if she knows whether anyone did that. I bet Akane can figure out the principles behind a diving bell fairly easily (anyone who's ever placed a cup or even a cupped hand downward into water could extrapolate). However, 5SB doesn't help here as it would keep us from moving at all, including downward into the water (though it might be useful if we need to freeze the bell/ship in place for a bit).

The real issues there, I think, are getting a ship that can carry the bell and deploy it and the limited viewing window you get - we'd need to make a lot of dives if we couldn't figure out how to make one with a wide range of vision. A clear diving bell and windows are probably not options. Maybe Akane can come up with something clever involving mirrors? Or we can find a Hyuuga missing nin/legit nin on loan from Jiraiya?
 
OliWhail said:
On mobile the blank area under the paragraph is pretty noticeable, tbh


My first thought is that a 5SB bridge has the disadvantages of needing to be restored frequently (monthly at minimum) and being easy to sabotage.

Good thought about deep ocean diving for Uzu though, we should ask Mari if she knows whether anyone did that. I bet Akane can figure out the principles behind a diving bell fairly easily (anyone who's ever placed a cup or even a cupped hand downward into water could extrapolate). However, 5SB doesn't help here as it would keep us from moving at all, including downward into the water (though it might be useful if we need to freeze the bell/ship in place for a bit).

The real issues there, I think, are getting a ship that can carry the bell and deploy it and the limited viewing window you get - we'd need to make a lot of dives if we couldn't figure out how to make one with a wide range of vision. A clear diving bell and windows are probably not options. Maybe Akane can come up with something clever involving mirrors? Or we can find a Hyuuga missing nin/legit nin on loan from Jiraiya?
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I strongly suspect that if we found the proper location of the Uzumaki ruins they'd be bound by a blood seal of some form. Or... something. The Uzumaki in a rational world are kind of terrifying, honestly.
 
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