KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
I am unsure who I said I hated?
I'm displeased. Not hateful.
Dragon Ball: After the End
I'm displeased. Not hateful.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
They were referring to Kakara, I believe, not yourself.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
What he said.
You're fine.
Dandeer's kinda responsible too, but still... doesn't matter.
Okibruez
(Verified Mid-Boss)
- Location
- Dreams
Basically, no.
It did not turn him human. He's still a Saiyan. It's just that the soul currently in the driver's seat is someone that only knows of themselves as 'human'.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Well. Wasn't precisely expecting the middle but can't say from my personal perspective that this was either exceptionally surprising nor distressing. I would have rather not pissed off Dandeer quite to that degree... But I still don't think I would have preferred the alternative, sooo.
I don't think we sleep as is?
I'm honestly not sure my moral opinion of her would be much different. Then again, I'm not personally that invested in the moral dimension, I try to focus on the practical of eg 'I think she will get in the way if we do x'.
And given that a lot of our conflict with her is over Jaffur, we'd probably be on better terms if he wasn't sealed.
... what political weight? She rules in Vegeta Vegeta's name, and since as she said in this update, the Vegetans hate her she can't actually rally the support of 'the Vegetans' as a whole. The faith kicked her out. Apra and Yammar are in the same conspiracy as us against her. The only other Vegetan Sorceror is also against her. If we assume she has Berra under overt mind control- and he's been reconciled with us, and I rather imagine the Gokuns will go into open revolt if she starts overtly subverting Berra's past stances outright.
She has, maybe, Berra politically on her side, except oh wait Berra is actually caught in the middle between us, wanting to support us on some issues.
I'm not going to contest the Master Sorceror issue beyond noting we don't know how many Gokun sorcerors might be able to aid us, but where do you imagine she gets this political weight while essentially the entire exile society is in varying degrees against her or at best neutral.
Our own political problems have included issues from being perceived as supporting the sealing. Just in a straight fight perspective, if she wants to march to war and we, again, assume she has Berra under total mind control and Valentine/Vegeta, too, for the hell of it, that's still 'maybe the Gokuns and two super saiyans vs three super saiyans and probably the Vegetans'.
The Conspiracy is a conspiracy to minimize damage of the transition, we'd already win in an outright war given the battle lines.
It doesn't matter, because if she ever breaks the polite fiction that she speaks for Lord Vegeta the Vegetans will instantly side against her. She has to pay at least token lip service to it, that's why she's so mad that we got Valentine to say yes because as was laid out in the update, she can't contest that without losing her legitimacy.
Relatedly, the official story/understanding means Valentine is Lord Vegeta, just made less insane, in which case he is, in fact, still the rightful lord of Vegeta.
Realize we recently brought multiple seers into the conspiracy, are a seer, and have a seer sensei. These aren't precisely the same issue.
You may be correct, based on our knowledge, however it is believed by society that the sealing is really just a Masque and kids conceived under masque remain the 'correct' species of the actual person minus masque.
So society would have no reason to expect the issues you are expecting.
Finally
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Finally
"Center yourself. Before you go anywhere, you need to start here."
Your eyes slide shut as Sensei Carrick murmurs quietly, across from you.
"Mind Projection is meant to be a difficult art, years in the preparation, decades before true mastery. I have never known a Seer to do it deliberately in fewer than seven years. You have done it in two. But it is dangerous regardless, especially considering where you're going. So first...center."
You peer inwards, focusing in on the ball of light that you know as your ki. You anchor yourself to it in an exercise you've done a million times, and then cast away all thought, all emotion.
"Good. Now, this is going to be risky, so I want you to remember to leave if there's a problem. Get in, and make sure you don't startle him. And make sure to come back."
You don't respond. You're already halfway out of your body, and his words are echoing to you down a distant well.
"Now...go."
And so you do.
* * *
Gone.
* * *
The landscape blurs by beneath you as your Sight tugs you onwards. The surface of Garenhuld, darkened in the grip of night, is an indistinct blob, as fast as you're going.Gone.
* * *
It's not your top speed as a Super Saiyan, but you're a shade at the moment. Even this is faster than you can readily perceive.
But it's only a moment before you screech in towards a house, through a window, towards a bed, closing in on a young boy's head-
* * *
Jaffur's been growing his hair out. Either that, or he simply hasn't cared to trim it. He isn't a Super Saiyan this time. What was before a nearly stereotypical mop of hair has lengthened to the point where it tumbles down his back, over his shoulders and down his chest, and in strands in front of his eyes. Almost like the oldest pictures of Yamcha, if Yamcha had even more hair, and took care of it even less well.
He's meditating.
You take a moment before getting his attention and swallow, nervous. You've spoken with Jaffur, yes, but only briefly. You didn't have a great handle on him before all of this happened. Now he might as well be a total stranger.
But you came here to talk, and he is expecting you.
You look around. His mindscape is still a blank and empty white, littered with white boulders. Taking a steadying breath, you step up to one of the boulders and rap on it with your knuckles.
Jaffur stands in between heartbeats, finger out with a dot of ki glowing on its tip, leveled on you. For a heartbeat, the two of you stare at each other.
Then his finger twitches slightly to the side. "Focus Ray."
The beam screeches past just over your shoulder, vanishing into the distance. Jaffur smirks, straightening. He nods. "Scion."
You snort, folding your arms and leaning against the rock. "Jaffur."
He chuckles. "Been a while." His tail lashes. His grin shows teeth. "How about a spar?"
You have finally established contact with Jaffur Vegeta. What will you do now? Choose all that apply. Top three options win. Those are not the only three you will be able to take, just the only three which the immediate next update will cover.
[ ] Have a spar.
[ ] Decline a spar (write-in reasoning).
[ ] Chat (write-in topic; may be chosen multiple times. NO MASSIVE SUB-VOTE SPAM. Must re-vote in a mainline vote like, "[X]" for each topic).
[ ] Hug (because hugs are the cure-all for social if you believe this forum.
)[ ] Write-in
THIS VOTE IS NOT YET CLOSED.
Finally.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING SO GOD-DAMNED LONG FOR THIS!
Ladies, Gentlemen, and those of unspecified gender, after FIVE YEARS, I FINALLY GET TO HAVE JAFFUR PROPERLY ON-SCREEN AGAIN!
Poptart has been waiting very patiently for this.
BULLSHIT, BOLDTEXT, PATIENCE DOESN'T ENTER INTO IT!
Extremely patiently. Heh.
I hope you all have enjoyed this update. And now it's time to chat. Have fun with it, folks, and I will see you next time!
Five years of Sealing, and finally the two Scions stand face-to-face again. Separated by time and the Seal, how have they changed? And how will they relate to each other? Find out next time, on Dragon Ball AE!
TWO-HOUR MORATORIUM TO CHAT BEFORE THE VOTE OPENS
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
We should definitely decline the spar. We only have a fraction of our power level and are on a bit of a time limit.
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
- Location
- United States
[X] Hug (because hugs are the cure-all for social if you believe this forum. )
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Yeah that was kinda the point I was making.
They think this is what would happen, but if it doesn't then... boom.
Oh HAI JAFFUR...
*puts on the romantic music* I see you've been growing your hair out.
Nah still FIRST HUGS.
Then we explain what we have planned situation on the outside ect ect.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
two hour moratorium. Discussion time, not voting.[X] Hug (because hugs are the cure-all for social if you believe this forum.
- Location
- ?
*Sigh* Since people decided that provoking Dandeer was going to be the winning vote we should prepare for the fallout. We really should ask someone to teach us about magic. Right now,we have no idea what the limits are,what it can do,etc. Plus,maybe knowledge could help with the Unsealing(Not to mention the problem of Jaron)This is especially important since Dandeer has no reason to be covert anymore. The second thing I want to do is to raise the Deceit Skill. Kakera pushing Dandeer is going to risk everyone in the Conspiracy.The only reason she wasn't caught was that no one was paying attention to her. Dandeer was being pushed to the edge(This is the last straw for her) and one of the people who really doesn't need to be in the know for obvious reasons.We need to be able to hide things from her(and also others) now more than ever. Kakara's grandma knows about deceit to teach her if I'm remembering right? Third thing,I guess figuring out how to unseal Jaffur has jumped up the timetable.
Honestly,I dislike how spiteful Kakara is here(even if it makes sense and I can understand it somewhat) I wonder how the Talk to Dandeer option would've turned out and I wish it won. I hope Kakara can learn something from this. Namely that reasonableness trumps pettiness even if you don't like a person.
Honestly,I dislike how spiteful Kakara is here(even if it makes sense and I can understand it somewhat) I wonder how the Talk to Dandeer option would've turned out and I wish it won. I hope Kakara can learn something from this. Namely that reasonableness trumps pettiness even if you don't like a person.
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
- Location
- United States
Won't matter for me, I won't be home for 3 to 4 hours *bout to leave*
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Topics
- Current unsealing plan
- Who we have in the conspiracy
- What happened between him and his mom that night
- How much does Jaron know?
- Ask him about his style
- Teach him how to contact for his magic lessons
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- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
It will matter, as your vote will be discounted. You must wait.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Given all we've seen from Dandeer even the most reasonable argument would have needed incredible luck to get through... she simply doesn't trust, anyone with Jaron and she especially disliked Kakara even before this incident.
And even then she'd have probably treated us with disdain.
I could be wrong, but none of our prior interactions have given either us or Kakara much evidence to the contrary.
- Location
- ?
I honestly think that Jaron doesn't know all that much.(Maybe Jaffur let's some things seep through) It makes sense with his mom wanting to raise him without knowledge of ki and whatnot
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
... and this is a reason not to get Jaffur's take on exactly how much he thinks Jaron knows? I don't see it.
We'd need to, like, inform him of our drastic power level limits. He might be willing to hold back enough for it to matter, but if he thinks he can go all out he will stomp and possibly actually kill us.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
I vote we explain that we're pretty squishy whilst doing this, so he'd probably smash us purely through Power Level. We'd take him up on the offer with an agreement to limit our PLs, except we aren't sure what will happen if we're injured as a shade. We might just dispel.
...Maybe after we've done what we actually came here to do? I don't think we're opposed to a friendly spar, now that our view on Pacifism has matured somewhat.
...Maybe after we've done what we actually came here to do? I don't think we're opposed to a friendly spar, now that our view on Pacifism has matured somewhat.
I suspect his long term idea was that Kakara would come round to the idea eventually, once she sees how this is the better way to do things. She'd see the light one day, and there are many years to go yet.
Leaning Hug + Chat(Jaron) + Spar.You have finally established contact with Jaffur Vegeta. What will you do now? Choose all that apply. Top three options win. Those are not the only three you will be able to take, just the only three which the immediate next update will cover.
[ ] Have a spar.
[ ] Decline a spar (write-in reasoning).
[ ] Chat (write-in topic; may be chosen multiple times).
[ ] Hug (because hugs are the cure-all for social if you believe this forum.
[ ] Write-in
We're saiyans. Sparring goes in.
But at the end because we wouldn't want to get accidentally blown out of the vision.
- Location
- ?
I don't know,with Kakara's skill in communication along with other trait bonuses AND that omake bonus,there was a decent chance at convincing her to let Kakara train Jaron, I just feel like we made an enemy we didn't need to. Well,not that she was Kakura's friend before,but still
There was a quote by Gore17 that broke down the exact numbers
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
It is still worth asking.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Honestly, I don't think we've ever been that opposed to a friendly spar, for cultural reasons- see the Faith meeting stuff- but yeah, especially now that we are more willing to fight, and all, seems reasonable- and also the kind of thing that will make Jaffur better disposed towards us.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
A chance sure, but not a big one.
Who knows. Its done now and I'll try to keep involved now so hopefully we don't do similar things in the future.