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Jaffur is likely to win the spar we have not done that much combat training. What we have done such as multiform and giant monkey we can't use here.

Still defeat means friendship can go both ways.
 
Actually, @PoptartProdigy are there any practical issues such as a pl decrease from our method of entry or similar against sparring that we should we worried about?
 
@PoptartProdigy, do we have a limited time to speak with him?
Because if we do, I propose we first talk with him (maybe hug if you wimps want it so bad), discuss what happened from his perspective, and tell him about our plans, and what he thinks about Dandeer's situation.

Then, if we still have time, spar with him.
 
A chance sure, but not a big one.

Who knows. Its done now and I'll try to keep involved now so hopefully we don't do similar things in the future.

Yeah It's just... Kakara acting like that make me feel like it was too much.I wasn't the biggest fan of Dandeer,though I didn't hate her either. Oh well.

We haven't done much combat training...so sparing and going all out means Kakara's not winning this one.
 
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Actually, @PoptartProdigy are there any practical issues such as a pl decrease from our method of entry or similar against sparring that we should we worried about?
Well, you're a shade, so you're at 1/20th of your normal PL. Other than that, nothing much. If you die here you're just gone, but I don't think you'll find it difficult to convince Jaffur to refrain from lethal force.
@PoptartProdigy, do we have a limited time to speak with him?
Because if we do, I propose we first talk with him (maybe hug if you wimps want it so bad), discuss what happened from his perspective, and tell him about our plans, and what he thinks about Dandeer's situation.

Then, if we still have time, spar with him.
You do in that if you spend too much time away from your body, you can't go back.

If you're asking if you have any practical limitations, though, no. Your time limit is measured in days, not hours.
 
Right, I think Jaffur would be most forthcoming if we oblige him the spar and talk during it.

I see no reason to hug Jaffur, to be honest, unless you are specifically shipping JaffurxKakara.
 
Right, I think Jaffur would be most forthcoming if we oblige him the spar and talk during it.

I see no reason to hug Jaffur, to be honest, unless you are specifically shipping JaffurxKakara.
I mean, the whole thread doesn't ship Kakara/Maya, but you see constant hugging there, too.

Obviously, there are no other relevant factors contained therein. :rofl:
 
Okay, our base pl is about 18 MIL, so as long as we limit pl for this fight we should be fine.
 
You can still transform as well. Actually, this is probably the only place where you can use, "full-power," Golden Oozaru.
Oh?

[] Offer to spar in full power Golden Oozaru. That should be a new one on him, and new is neat. Inform him first of our power level limits. Talk during.

I mean, moratorium is still closed, but this idea... thought I'd put it out.
 
You can still transform as well. Actually, this is probably the only place where you can use, "full-power," Golden Oozaru.
Can we talk well using that? Or use telepathy?

Edit: Can we turn Oozaru without Jaffur transforming? I don't think he learned to control the transformation.
 
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Oh?

[] Offer to spar in full power Golden Oozaru. That should be a new one on him, and new is neat. Inform him first of our power level limits. Talk during.

I mean, moratorium is still closed, but this idea... thought I'd put it out.
Keep in mind that if we out power him he gets to use "never tell me the odds"
 
Keep in mind that if we out power him he gets to use "never tell me the odds"
Okay, uh, fictionfan? Why are you speaking as if the objective of a friendly spar is to beat his ass into the ground?

You keep raising objections that only make sense if winning is essential. It's a friendly spar, and I for one am suggesting it to put him more at ease, since he did ask.
 
Okay, uh, fictionfan? Why are you speaking as if the objective of a friendly spar is to beat his ass into the ground?

You keep raising objections that only make sense if winning is essential. It's a friendly spar, and I for one am suggesting it to put him more at ease, since he did ask.
Speaking for just myself here, but even though it's a friendly spar, I still want to beat him to the ground.

Is that so wrong?:(

EDIT: I think Jaffur will appreciate it if we push him and win.
 
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Okay, uh, fictionfan? Why are you speaking as if the objective of a friendly spar is to beat his ass into the ground?

You keep raising objections that only make sense if winning is essential. It's a friendly spar, and I for one am suggesting it to put him more at ease, since he did ask.
I am more worried about him turning giant monkey and not being able to control it.
 
My first thoughts were spar and chat. I don't know how much Jaffur was influenced by his masque, but from what I understood of his upbringing, he won't be comfortable unless we are fighting. That's the thing when an abusive parent wants to train a saiyan supersoldier.

I was worried about being but an easily dispelled shade, but QM said that we can go all out, so we might as well do it, Jaffur will be a bit respectful once we show our strength. I just hope we will gradually rise the level up depending on Jaffur's state and not go full golden oozaru from the beginning.
 
@PoptartProdigy is this power restriction similar to the masque enough that if we used the multiform we could have them all at 1/20 PL?

If not, can we still have a clone in beast form and a clone in normal form at "full" power?

I was wondering if we could use the latter as artillery while keeping him occupied with our normal form.

I also want to try out ussj golden oozaru kikoho, just for the kicks.

BTW I recommend against just using golden great ape. Against someone with a speed talent, getting a speed Debuff seems like a bad idea.
 
My first thoughts were spar and chat. I don't know how much Jaffur was influenced by his masque, but from what I understood of his upbringing, he won't be comfortable unless we are fighting. That's the thing when an abusive parent wants to train a saiyan supersoldier.
I'd actually forgotten the whole "doesn't understand social situations beyond fighting" thing. We definitely have to spar with him then, and for the same reason I think we should leave off on the hugging. Rather than comfort him or put him at ease, it'll just make him really uncomfortable for no real gain - better to work him up to that once we break him out of the seal, rather than overload him with random positivity he doesn't know how to respond to.

@PoptartProdigy is this power restriction similar to the masque enough that if we used the multiform we could have them all at 1/20 PL?
Pretty sure we can't use MF as a shade, though Mind Projection might be different, since we aren't going to different places?

BTW I recommend against just using golden great ape. Against someone with a speed talent, getting a speed Debuff seems like a bad idea.
Given that the point of the spar is to get him comfortable and not to win, I think showing off our flashy new transformation is still a good idea. We can always laugh off a loss as "I'm not really sure how best to use this form yet - I can't even train in it properly, the Hall's wards can't handle it!" Might make a good conversational topic - I imagine he'd find discussing the pros and cons of a combat form easier than generic chatting.
 
@PoptartProdigy is this power restriction similar to the masque enough that if we used the multiform we could have them all at 1/20 PL?

If not, can we still have a clone in beast form and a clone in normal form at "full" power?

I was wondering if we could use the latter as artillery while keeping him occupied with our normal form.

I also want to try out ussj golden oozaru kikoho, just for the kicks.

BTW I recommend against just using golden great ape. Against someone with a speed talent, getting a speed Debuff seems like a bad idea.
You cannot multiform as a shade. Furthermore, the only reason you can have multiple, "full power," forms under Masque is because you only display well short of a third of your Masqued max anyway; those clones still have the restriction, it's just academic as far as you're concerned.
 
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