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Lordfartquad said:
Is it just me or is doom the only king the government could actually take on and win?
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He's rich, and a mayor. That's about it. He doesn't have an army of well-equipped goons, he doesn't have any supers, he isn't a mad scientist, and he had to outsource his robots. Which aren't built, and are focused on Toons besides. The government hasn't cracked down on him because he wasn't a big enough deal to seriously investigate.
Nix's Warden said:
Yeah, but that they don't like it, doesn't mean that if we go down along with our food production facilities, that means half of america might starve to death. By sheer virtue of that fact alone the US Government can't afford for us to go down and risk the food supply being compromised.
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I don't think we're that irreplaceable. Outside of a deliberate attack, most of our infrastructure for food will stay intact if Doof goes down. None of it requires a mad scientist to run or understand.
 
MrHobbit said:
Reminder for the Negaverse reaction maker! The virgin Doom ran away fight before it could get good.
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Seriously. I know Doom didn't get Syndromed, but everything about that series of updates--how dismissive the two important parties were towards Doom, the fact that Doom was desperate enough to bribe a Toon in the first place*, etc--screamed to me that Doom is yesterday's news. I mean yeah, not optimistic enough to think that Doom's just gonna go away in the Shame Corner to never bother us ever again, but damn those interludes were not a good look for Doom.

* before people are like "oh that's just business," well Doom had bribes and other similar tactics available to clean up Toontown with, but he intentionally went for, an incredibly over the top in terms of Toon-murder plot instead of just bribing some property owners or code inspectors to evict tenants or condemn buildings. Since you know, he really hates Toons and wants to murder them.

infinityDivided said:
Oh, that's why PB told Doom to clarify what he wanted him to do. He was setting him up.
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Man I can see that since it would be kinda hilarious to have the otherwise ineffectual government clean up Doom, but Blot probably doesn't want us wasting Russ on Doom when he could be nemesis-ing with Blot!
 
LaughingMad said:
Reminder that Mickey Mouse was somehow able to pull the wool over the Blots eyes many times in the comics. If the Blots stats are that good what kind of monster is Mickey? Goofy should probably start looking into him next turn. It would be hilarious if Mickey is some kind of shadow figure ruling many smaller companies with an iron fist. The Doofquest equivalent of what Disney became IRL.
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Have you considered that Mickey Mouse has seven stars in Intrigue? Not that he does, but that he could.
 
While I will admit to getting caught in a panic spiral and throwing that about the Discord, I was talked down and had some very pertinent points highlighted. One, out of all the Kings, we're the most uniquely suited one to take on a Toon criminal. Two, Blot is so focused on Russ, he may not have realized who's waiting in the wings. Wile E. is going to be a nightmare to spring on him; especially given how he gets a boost to actions thanks to his White Roadrunner trait. He and Russ also synch up very well, covering each other's weaknesses. The only glaring hole in those is occult.
 
MrHobbit said:
Mickey probably would have a decent Occult stat. Though I'm not sure what brining in Mickey would say to the Blot.

He probably wants an exclusive relationship, you know?
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In that case, communication is the key. If Blot wants exclusivity from Russ, he has to say as much; you can't just leave important parts of a relationship unstated like that, and assume it'll be understood. He has to talk to him.
 
ExNihilo said:
I've got a vivid memory of Cecil Turtle using that gag to beat Bugs Bunny in a race, Bugs wins but says loudly how fast he was going, and gets arrested for speeding. Am I imagining that?
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That's happened a few times. I definitely recall it also happening to Wile at least once in an old Roadrunner comic.

Simon_Jester said:
Can you just... not do this?

PLEASE?

Just once can we encounter an in-game reverse- one that even promises interesting possible future actions that will be fun, memorable scenes and confrontations and exciting events- without a saltstorm?

I, for one, allow myself to be happy without having to win 100% of the time. It's much less stressful.
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Yeah. Iniqunator was a present health threat, Lizzy and Stanley were breaking parts of the city and wanted to take over, and Kat is a potential Masquerade annihilator. The Blot just wants to have fun and fuck with Russ. A threat, to be sure, but not something massive we need to remove from the plate.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Can you just... not do this?

PLEASE?

Just once can we encounter an in-game reverse- one that even promises interesting possible future actions that will be fun, memorable scenes and confrontations and exciting events- without a saltstorm?

I, for one, allow myself to be happy without having to win 100% of the time. It's much less stressful.
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It's not even a saltstorm, it's just the same one or two guys bringing down the mood every time.
 
Mattman324 said:
A threat, to be sure, but not something massive we need to remove from the plate.
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More than that, he considers himself a man of culture and good breeding. He's a villain with class. Which means that when presented with an enemy that poses as great a threat to him as it does to us, he will be willing to work together, and not simply stab us in the back afterwards. He's even got a daughter, so he and Doof may actually be able to bond somewhat over being evil parents who still love their kids.
 
A_Somebody said:
Man I can see that since it would be kinda hilarious to have the otherwise ineffectual government clean up Doom, but Blot probably doesn't want us wasting Russ on Doom when he could be nemesis-ing with Blot!
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But of course, not quite so clever a plan as, say, allowing you to discover a willing patsy, only to ensure that tainted knowledge ended up in the hands of the far more capable and particularly comedic Quackerjack, thus making a fool out of you and your entire government. Hypothetically speaking.
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In the words of Arathnorn from discord, "The Blot is a master at explaining his plan to his foe's face without them even realizing they are being tricked by the trick he just explained to them".
 
TempestK said:
While I will admit to getting caught in a panic spiral and throwing that about the Discord, I was talked down and had some very pertinent points highlighted. One, out of all the Kings, we're the most uniquely suited one to take on a Toon criminal. Two, Blot is so focused on Russ, he may not have realized who's waiting in the wings. Wile E. is going to be a nightmare to spring on him; especially given how he gets a boost to actions thanks to his White Roadrunner trait. He and Russ also synch up very well, covering each other's weaknesses. The only glaring hole in those is occult.
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I think Doof + Wile has 20 occult, from tooned in and his white roadrunner each adding +10 to all stats. Or at least, they have +20 occult if it's funny.
TempestK said:
More than that, he considers himself a man of culture and good breeding. He's a villain with class. Which means that when presented with an enemy that poses as great a threat to him as it does to us, he will be willing to work together, and not simply stab us in the back afterwards. He's even got a daughter, so he and Doof may actually be able to bond somewhat over that.
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Yeah, in a lot of ways Doof and Blot are very similar. Both are somewhat silly but genuinely competent and completely unapologetic villains. Both treasure having worthy opponents to test their genius, and are willing to go the extra mile against a proper nemesis. Both have great senses of the dramatic as well, and both are parents who care a lot about their kids. And Doof is the boss of the Phantom Blot's new Nemesis, which is also a plus!
 
TempestK said:
More than that, he considers himself a man of culture and good breeding. He's a villain with class. Which means that when presented with an enemy that poses as great a threat to him as it does to us, he will be willing to work together, and not simply stab us in the back afterwards. He's even got a daughter, so he and Doof may actually be able to bond somewhat over being evil parents who still love their kids.
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So which do you think will get a Omake duet first? Doof/Phantom Blot or Vanessa/Phantom Brat?
 
jonasquinn said:
So it's exactly as bad as it looks with the slight upside that we might be able to recruit PB though I doubt doing so would be anywhere near easy
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Recruiting him? Functionally impossible. The man... er... inkblob of probably masculine gender... is far too egotistical and arrogant and, frankly, talented to play second fiddle to someone like Doof.

But we may be able to work with him.

Grandalt said:
Well, at least we have some time, and a way to boost Russ' loyalty which is good.
Bad news, we have to deal with the Blot, and those stats!:o Those are King level stats.
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And the kind of king-level stats that make Doof feel inadequate, no less!

Mattman324 said:
Ok, that's a bit far, but "sending internationally wanted supervillains to attack a very rich taxpayer" should be a big concern.

With stats like that he'd crack the game in half.
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His stats may not actually be that much better than Temujin, though Temujin is greatly handicapped by his maluses with modernity.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Can you just... not do this?

PLEASE?

Just once can we encounter an in-game reverse- one that even promises interesting possible future actions that will be fun, memorable scenes and confrontations and exciting events- without a saltstorm?

I, for one, allow myself to be happy without having to win 100% of the time. It's much less stressful.
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I'm sorry but no, I don't expect to win every single time, and like you say it would be boring if we did, but I'm allowed to be annoyed when we fail, especially when an action we succeed on only slightly mitigates how fucked we are in regards to something that was an inevitable problem that we could do absolutely nothing to avoid and actively creates a new problem as well

It's not unreasonable of me to be aggravated by that
MrHobbit said:
We aren't fucked in the least. Blot certainly isn't going to ruin us.
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Not individually no but he's a master criminal that's going to be going around trying to mess with us, using up hero units that would be better off elsewhere and potentially causing damage that we then have to deal with all while juggling every other problem we have right now

He's not disastrous by himself but he's a major problem that we won't be able to deal with easily and could easily make any bad situation we find ourselves in worse

Not to mention that we now have to deal with the fact that any Quest we send Russ on could now have PB turn up and make things significantly more difficult
MrHobbit said:
Doom won't be able to actually use that knowledge
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Yes he can, literally all he has to do is tell his men "Keep an eye out for this guy" and he makes Russ' job harder

In fact this one meeting has done more to help Doom learn about us than anything Hawk ever did
 
Wolfy098 said:
Blot hasn't gotten a foothold here yet, do you think there's a way we could use his comparatively low stewardship to prevent him from building one?
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He has a foothold. The toon railroad. We failed it, someone else we suspect is blot came in and made it for us.

ExNihilo said:
I've got a vivid memory of Cecil Turtle using that gag to beat Bugs Bunny in a race, Bugs wins but says loudly how fast he was going, and gets arrested for speeding. Am I imagining that?
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I definitely know the one you're talking about. Cecil has a jet shell, is winning the whole race, loses on purpose at the end, and gets bugs to confess to extreme speeding in front of two cops and gets thrown in prison. Great stuff.
 
I come back from my nap, and what do I see?
Agent Russ wooing Toon Moriarty.
Upon reading part 1, I'm filled with intrigue.
Doom Negaquest will be really funny . ;)

I have finished part 2, the dice have been cast.
The stage has been set to make performance last.
That Phantom Blot, like a cat with his mouse.
Time to see who'll be running the house!
 
jonasquinn said:
I'm sorry but no, I don't expect to win every single time, and like you say it would be boring if we did, but I'm allowed to be annoyed when we fail, especially when an action we succeed on only slightly mitigates how fucked we are in regards to something that was an inevitable problem that we could do absolutely nothing to avoid and actively creates a new problem as well

It's not unreasonable of me to be aggravated by that

Not individually no but he's a master criminal that's going to be going around trying to mess with us, using up hero units that would be better off elsewhere and potentially causing damage that we then have to deal with all while juggling every other problem we have right now

He's not disastrous by himself but he's a major problem that we won't be able to deal with easily and could easily make any bad situation we find ourselves in worse

Not to mention that we now have to deal with the fact that any Quest we send Russ on could now have PB turn up and make things significantly more difficult

Yes he can, literally all he has to do is tell his men "Keep an eye out for this guy" and he makes Russ' job harder

In fact this one meeting has done more to help Doom learn about us than anything Hawk ever did
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On the other hand, this gave Russ 2 more intrigue, so if "Russ got made" adds like a +5 to DCs, it's not going to be that much harder on us, especially since Doom probably has a worse intrigue hero now that he's ditching Hawk. And worst comes to worst, Tooned In means Russ could totally sneak in with a false mustache and leave them none the wiser.
 
*Later on Doof's social media profile *

Doof: Special thanks go out to Phantom Blot for officially upgrading his status with Agent Russ to Nemesis! It does an evil heart good to see the old arts practiced again! I look forward to seeing evil plots, dramatic battles of wits, Monologues and of course Musical numbers! Oh this brings me back to the good old days #NeverforgetAgentP #nemesis #Evil
 
jonasquinn said:
I'm sorry but no, I don't expect to win every single time, and like you say it would be boring if we did, but I'm allowed to be annoyed when we fail, especially when an action we succeed on only slightly mitigates how fucked we are in regards to something that was an inevitable problem that we could do absolutely nothing to avoid and actively creates a new problem as well

It's not unreasonable of me to be aggravated by that

Not individually no but he's a master criminal that's going to be going around trying to mess with us, using up hero units that would be better off elsewhere and potentially causing damage that we then have to deal with all while juggling every other problem we have right now

He's not disastrous by himself but he's a major problem that we won't be able to deal with easily and could easily make any bad situation we find ourselves in worse

Not to mention that we now have to deal with the fact that any Quest we send Russ on could now have PB turn up and make things significantly more difficult

Yes he can, literally all he has to do is tell his men "Keep an eye out for this guy" and he makes Russ' job harder

In fact this one meeting has done more to help Doom learn about us than anything Hawk ever did
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Dude, you've singlehandedly contributed at least a third of the salt and negativity in this entire thread. If you're that upset, you can just... leave? And stop bringing everyone else down too?
 
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