I think we should provide free access to mental health checkups for all ranks and encourage them to take it.

But - and this is critical - for anyone to maintain a rank above Silver, they must go to regular mental health checkups to deal with the stress of the job. They, as a hero, are going to be on the front lines for a lot of dangerous, nasty and potentially traumatic things.

Also helps keep tabs on narcissists and psychos but keep that on the down low.

So part of the medal requirement is to "get a mental health checkup every turn." And yes, we'll be using 'turn' in-universe. "Everyone in Drusselstein knows a turn means two months!"
 
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Important points from the discord [brackets mean my thoughts]
(this isn't brackets)
->make the distinction between looking for fights(patrol and response) and looking to Start a fight(confrontation, hunches), possibly solved by letting cops deputize supers
->as Nystical said, we should implement therapy for heroes gold and up
->Silver should learn some basic dos and donts[I reccomend seminars inside of police stations or other trusted buildings
->alerting silver heroes in case of an emergency?
 
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Re: The Masquerade: I'm in support of breaking it, or any of its component Mini-squerades, but, like, not all at once. One teeny, tiny bit at a time.

It's like knocking down rotted support beams in a building. Yes, the beams need to come down, or else disaster looms, but just taking them out without forethought is sure to lead to disaster. New beams need to be propped up first, careful measurements need to be taken, materials need to be ordered, etc. etc.

Even if you don't agree that the Masquerade should be broken, I would like to submit the claim that it almost certainly, eventually, will be. The same preparations we undertake for taking it down on purpose can also serve as preparations for when, to squeeze the life out of this metaphor, the rot finally sets in and the beams fall on their own.
 
Take a Third (Fourth) Option
AN: So i was inspired by the thread topic a few days ago about finding/recruiting Star and Marco--maybe making them part of Dooftroop. My immediate thought was "Ohhh nice, and thread seems optimistic--how wrong could it go? And this popped up. Got "swear word approved" from DM! Hope readers believe the situation here warrants it!

Canon Status--Dear god I hope not.


Take a Third(Fourth) Option

Your name is Janna Ordana. And this is—no you can't even call this the "Worst Day Ever" of your life. "Worst Day Ever" is used to refer to Skullnick giving multiple pop quizzes first thing Monday morning, then coming home to discover Great-Aunt Camille gifted you some frilly, lacey, sickeningly girly abomination of a dress since someone informed her pink is your favorite and then having to dodge your mom's attempts to make you wear while she spends the next week reminding you Great-Aunt Camille paid to ship it all the way from the Philippines and it you should at least try it on and Don't Make Auntie Camille Sad Janna. Right now, you almost wish you paid more attention in school so you had the words to describe how throat-tight-ing-ly, gut clenching, paralyzingly horrific the situation you're in is.

None of this is helping.

Behind you are Star and Marco, your two missing best friends who you haven't seen in months. This ought to be one of the best days in your life except—

In front of you stands Toffee, the lizard responsible for making Star and Marco flee in the first place, killing Star's mom and who knows many other Mewmans, turning your home into some creepy "normal" Stepford Smiling shell of itself, and oh also wants to wipe out humanity. You wish you had something to mess up that suit of his, which is still somehow completely pristine and wrinkle free. (a pleasant image of dumping a trash can over Toffee's head and him getting swarmed by hungry possums tearing into his fleshsuit flits through your mind's eye.) He separated you from Feldrake's staff earlier and your teacher/wannabe corrupter is stuck in the ground, completely inert and useless next to Toffee.

Thankfully right before the staff got snapped away, you managed to whip up a protective shell to shield your two friends from whatever Toffee or his creepy warlock henchperson want to throw at them, while Star catches her breath and…helps Marco. Just helps him also catch his breath and get back on his feet. yeah

There's a perfectly good cliff behind you. You'd hop into your spell, turn it into a sphere, roll it off the cliff while flipping dual birds, link back up with Doof and laugh about how lizard Sauron crossed with Bateman totally can't pull off that dramatic hand shake as he screams about being FOILED AGAIN as well as the Bossman can except—

In front of you is also Kalabar. Who has your other two best friends, Max and Vanessa, floating paralyzed and helpless in his grip. Vanessa's been stripped of the teleport-away-inator, the pepper spray and the many many many other protective measures Doof insisted she take. As for Max, it looks like he got his wish to be less toon-ish as nothing remotely zany, wacky or funny has popped up to help any of you.

"Janna," (should you be flattered that he'd learned your name?) "You are currently sheltering two fugitives. Do the reasonable thing and surrender them. Else," he gives a meaningful glance at Kalabar and his two hostages. "I could provide a lesson on how Mewni deals with criminal collaborators."

"Really? Fugitives? With what warrant? Oh, let me guess, something rubber-stamped from whatever judge you installed after invading Mewni, conquering it and declaring yourself its brand-new dictator?"

"You sound so disapproving, aren't such things normal for your kind?"

Before you can continue your politics (would it be better or worse if you had paid more attention in social studies here?) discussion, the communicator in your ear sparks to life.

"—na? This is Russ, we're approaching your location. The doctor is developing an -inator to counter Toffee and heal any casualties. Hold on."

That's the happiest you've ever been to hear a fed. The glimmer of hope loosens the gordian knot your guts tangled themselves into.

Intrigue Check: Stall for Time

DC 100

11 + 20 + 15 (Doof Troop) = 46 Critical Failure

"I mean, you're probably right? But also, you're really bad at asking for stuff. Doof opens with full dental, medical, vacation, and meal support; then tacks on other stuff on top when he wants stuff done. None of this 'Do What I Want Or I'll Kill Something You Love!' stuff. Shouldn't a fancy business guy like yourself know what 'positive reinforcement' is? Like the first time Doof—"

Toffee cuts you off. "Let's not waste any more time Janna. I do agree with your patron on one thing though. That Doom is a cretin. But, even he had some uses." He motions to Kalabar who simply grins before touching Max's hand with a finger tipped with a sickly green glow.

A smell that's a nauseating cross between acetone and that dead possum you left in the Arizona sun for a summer afternoon hits your nose. In front of your eyes, Max's hand starts to melt. He screams in pain. Behind you Star let out a horrified gasp. Vanessa's face pales as she renews her struggle against Kalabar's freeze spell. Marco….You instinctively try to avert your eyes from the sight only to find that you can't.

"Janna, Janna, Toons are meant to put on a good show." Kalabar's grin deepens. "Can't have you missing dear Maxie's curtain call; that'd be rude!"

Right then, right there you feel hate surging through your veins, driving off any other emotion. You reach inside to cast a spell to blast both of this smug suit-wearing shitbags.

Occult Check: Blast These Assholes to Kingdom Come

DC 110

73 + 21 + 15 (Doof Troop) + 5 (Explosion Good) + 25 (hate) – 50 (Maintaining Protection Spell) = 89 Failure

You can't. You spent your juice putting up that protection spell and can't find the energy with Feldrake's staff taken away.

Max's screams devolve into whimpers, tears and gaspy sad hiccup breathes as he's made to watch his limb drip away bit by bit. Kalabar even releases his freeze spell; Max collapses and curls up into a fetal position, his entire body trembling with pain. (You wonder if Toons can hyperventilate; they don't have the blood vessels or carbon dioxide requirements and how do you turn something like that funny?).

Star is quietly begging in the spell behind you. Not for you to pick her. She's far too good for the thought of condemning Max and Vanessa to ever cross her mind. No, you know what she's doing even without having to look back to see it. Right before you put up your spell, Marco caught a bad hit in his leg. You've spent way too much time researching anatomy books and then doing your best to creep people out when watching movies and shows about how limb wounds would totally cause rapid bleed out since hello—veins and arteries, to be able to convince yourself that Marco's state is anything but awful.

You know exactly what's going on behind you because the glimpses you caught—Star's surprised and relieved face collapsing into horror, Marco's rapidly paling face glancing down at his leg before he collapsed, Star cradling his body to heal him, her pleas for him to stay with her, bloodstained hands and the streak of blood over her left cheek mark--right before you looked away to try (fail) and help your other friends have permanently seared themselves into your brain forever. Marco's breathing has become increasingly faded and you know it's not just from the pounding of your heartbeat in your ears drowning it out.

Toffee taps on his watch and waits. The fact that you're being forced to pick between condemning Star and Marco to death or abandoning Vanessa and Max, that Marco and Max are both actively dying even if you could pick--the weight of it all hits you as it feels like your heart turned into stone right before dropping into the cavernous pit that's replaced your stomach. Everything around you blurs into a mess of smeared colors as the pounding in your ears drowns out any other noise. Your heart is pounding so fast it feels like the vessels your hand ought to burst any second now and the only coherent sensory input you're getting are the smells of copper, acetone and rot.

For a moment in time all you can do is hate. Come on, yes

You hate Kalabar for capturing your friends and poisoning Max. You hate Toffee for setting up this whole scenario. Keep on going

It bleeds as you think of hating Skullnick and her constant surprise quizzes. That rat bastard Principle Skeeves for letting himself be used by Toffee. Oh, that's the good stuff.

Shit, part of you hates Marco for getting himself hit. And Vanessa and Max for letting themselves get caught. YES! MORE!

Most importantly, you hate yourself. For not putting up that spell in time, for getting Max and Vanessa dragged into this—just for everything. Uh maybe step to the side a little. Eh I can work with this.

The moment is gone. You're just drained. Part of you just wants to….give up. You can't make a choice here so all you can do is not right?

"What, NO!"

How can you hear Feldrake right now?

"Look, that's not relevant. Your little moment there let me connect, but it's not gonna last forever. Let me in and you'll have all the power you need to take care of this."

Feldrake's been trying to get greater access to your body since the day you picked him up. You know it's a horrible idea yet—

VOTE:

[ ] Stall No time

[ ] Let the spell down. Surrender Marco and Star.

[ ] Flee in over the cliff and help Star save Marco. Abandon Vanessa and Max.

[ ] Give up. You can't pick so you won't

[ ] Accept Feldrake's Offer. The only chance you have of doing something.

  • First Paragraph-- Janna's obviously had bad days before (like when Marco and Star first disappeared) but I was trying to reference the teenager/general human tendency to hyperbolically catastrophize. Also, the long rambling sentence is supposed to kinda be Janna trying to block out her current circumstances. Finally, the "you have to use the gifts you were given, don't be ungrateful!!" thing is legit in Asian families.​
  • Maybe Toffee doesn't actually wanna wipe out humanity but a) General "worst case" scenario here and b) Janna's really not inclined to be generous towards Toffee.​
  • Re roll Numbers: Being cute and assuming hypothetical thread did something to boost the Dooftroop bonus (makes the fact Janna has to pick b/t Max & Vanessa vs. Star & Marco all the better!) and got her Occult stat boosted via events that involved explosions too​
  • Expected Question: A Spell specifically for Toons? And wouldn't the Toonforce get Max out of this?

    Watsonian:
    --Toffee knows Doof has several high ranking Toon figures, he's literally the opposite of quiet about that, and being practical has devised ways to counteract them.
    --In general I imagine anti-human Toffee and Kalabar have a general dislike of Toons, since they're inherently linked with human creations (first one was born from cave drawings so they're literally products of human creativity)
    --Toffee's totally got a but of a sadistic streak. Also here the final member of his hated enemy is almost in his grasp, so he's not inclined to play nice anyways.
    Doyalist:
    --This whole thing came as a result of me going "hrm what if Quest Janna had to pick b/t her two friend groups?" and grew from there, so no Toonforce from nowhere to save things.
    --I don't think I can do Toonforce shenanigans well even if this weren't intentionally meant as the most dramatic bad situation I could come up with.
I do have a followup in mind. Out of curiostiy, with the situation presented as above, how would you vote? Would you pick Feldrake!mystery box?
 
Would you pick Feldrake!mystery box?

Oh definitely. If my limited wiki-walking is correct, both Star and Marco have dipped into forbidden/dangerous magic more than once, so they have to room to judge, and having friends around is basically a surefire way to snap someone out of possession, and this is the classic setup in any case, diving into anger to save her friends from an evil overlord.
 
[X] Accept Feldrake's Offer. The only chance you have of doing something.

I'd gamble on Feldrake being loyal to Janna or, at least, being better then Toffee at the moment. If he just keeps everyone alive throughout the encounter, even if he's a problem and a villain to us later on it still gives us a chance to make things better.

Possession can be fixed, death is a lot harder.
 
if you got a better way of getting what i'm aiming for I'll be happy to back it. until then QI is the only system in the US legal framework i know of to avert a repeat of the massive wave of lawsuits that spawned the SRA.
we would have to make Anti-slapp laws a nation wide thing and that would get a shitload more opposition then the repeal the SRA movement.
uh... i just looked it up and well those RL lawsuits you mentioned? They were what caused QI to come into being when the supreme court made it up to stop those lawsuits.
no, no.
Government officials can still get QI, in a hypothetical "apparently we're keeping the government" universe in which my political opinions are relevant. Just not cops.
Cops, at the boots on the ground level, have absolutely no reason to need QI the same way a high-ranking official might, because they act on a small scale where what they deal with should absolutely be settled law, or rapidly settleable law.

The thing with QI in its current incarnation is that it makes ignorance of the law an excuse for law enforcement to break it.
 
... I knew I shouldn´t have used such a specific and drastic example because some would fixate on the exageration instead of the basic message.

Ask anyone does investigative works for a living (cops, private eyes, whatever) in areas where a lot of different factions - some of them "local authorities" doing their own investigations - are active about what one should pay attention to to one of the first things they´ll tell you is *to make sure that the "authorities" have at least a vague idea about your presence here* in order for the two of you to not accidentially hinder each other in the process.
Yeah. There's stories all the time about undercover cops from two different jurisdictions messing up each others cases at best or killing the other at worst due to lack of communication between the departments about what they were looking into. Plus, why risk one of our people to go investigate a thing when we can safely send them to just ask Shego if she knows what's going on with the drug ring. There is zero chance she knows less than we do about the drug ring if we consider that they started in her territory. Plus, we will want her to know if we plan on dealing with the drug ring before we try and do so. We don't want to run into a situation where we are stepping on each others toes like we would've been with the Gala if we didn't let Shego know we were planning a heist.
Xanatos already took a stance on the SRA this past turn. I don't understand what you'd hope to accomplish by asking him for a collaboration at this time.
Thanks for confirmation there. Xanatos has already made his move; collaborating with him wouldn't yield us anything but showing him that we need help to make a simple statement.
C) Learn about the Unicorn magic anti-Bill shield that actually works amazingly well. Recreate that, literally everywhere. Might need to start cloning some Unicorn's for this.
I mean, who wouldn't want to own a unicorn? There's a business venture right there!
That speech Launchpad made was real heartfelt. It had the perfect down to earth adverage joe feel to it that appeals to the general populace while containing stuff in it that should resonate with most audiences. This speech is one that is probably gonna wind up in history books at best or dissected by bored students in speech courses in college in the future at worst. It's got this timeless feel to it.
... ya, I don't think we have to support repealing the SRA itself anytime soon. Thanks to this, Doom's no longer the main guy for the "Amti-SRA" group, Glomgold is. So, now, we really would loom like we were following a trend if we just tried to throw our support behind it without doing something tangible.



Actually, we can, especially if it would backfire on it, as it seems it's likely too. Unless, of course, Glomgold's crit failure made supporting repealing it super easy for everyone else.
In a way, Glomgold set himself up for this. He removed Scrooge from the picture to the point that Scrooge couldn't keep on his staff. Which meant that Launchpad was free to bounce around from place to place. Which meant that he was in a perfect position to accidentally wander into the wrong symposium.

@Made in Heaven who was their actual speaker supposed to be?
That's hilarious!
Can we... just take the action? DC 100 is a bit high, sure, but as long as we don't critfail as hard as Glomgold did we should still be able to communicate our intention to our fellow kings, which seems like the most important part. Like, we're the diseased lunatic from Danville, no one's expecting us to be successful at this. Just do the thing, see if we can do it. If we can, great, if we can't then at least other kings see us taking an action on it.
Mhm. It's better to say something than nothing.
After reading this interlude, I think our next step should be absolutely clear to anyone with half a functioning brain.

We need to lobby for overhaul of the Search and Rescue Laws. I understand the need for governmental regulation in most avenues of employment, but in matters as dire as those of human lives, when every second counts, we cannot afford to get bogged down in overmuch bureaucracy.
Absolutely. It's a travesty the problems with SAR has been so ignored by the general populace.
Depends on your interpretation of "super", but Juniper and a few other tech villains have moved in. Your ninjas have some magic and extraordinary talents that can be read as super.

Oh, and Temujin is atomic.
Yessssssss! Confirmation that Temujin counts as a cape now! I knew it! We just need to get him a costume now!
Eh even if Doom isn't the main force behind the SRA Repeal movement all the other arguments made for fighting it ourselves still ring true

Not opposing it could make Doof look ineffectual and wishy washy, would lend Doom's slander of us more wait and doing just the Insuricare action without actually speaking out against the SRA might make it look like we're just bowing to pressure rather than actually advocating for Supers

It's also possible that between the information we gathered and the amount of people that are currently campaigning against the SRA the DC has been reduced
Yeah, I'm actually more in favor of getting in on anti-SRA now. Before we were at risk of making enemies, but now almost everybody is on the same side. And if we think of politicians, you're going to respect the person who gets on the train a month or two late more than the person that conspicuously refuses to take a position indefinitely.
Yeah. Nobody wants to ally with someone who's indecisive.
All dumb jokes aside, I have to say, I really admire Launchpad. Dumb he may be, but his heart is clearly in the right place, and he understands what's important in life. And you gotta admit, coming to a major event as a keynote speaker, finding out that there was a mistake and you're actually speaking on an entirely different subject, and just rolling with it takes a certain special kinda guy, don't it?
Mhm. He's got a kind of charisma to him alright.
You know, Launchpad did note that he was having trouble finding long term employment.

I bet you hiring Launchpad and putting him in charge of our companies response to the SRA would be received positively.
Ohohoho~! I like this idea! Man... so many diplomacy actions so little time! Whichever turn we decide to make our big anti-SRA push on... which would probably be this turn... we should consider hiring him as well. Others probably would have the same idea as well, so Launchpad might be a tad bit more time sensitive than Wendy who seems to be doing well for herself on her own little corner of the internet.
Khehehehehehe. This is indeed a Toon Failure at it's finest. He fall so hard head first to the floor he lifted the wood plank his foe standing on to greatness.
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyup!
It will instead attract us more attention if we don't do it. Everyone Is doing it and we had already being pictured as the eccentric CEO who likes to meddle in politics. It would be weirder if we do not join in and then people would start wondering what the heck are we doing that is so important for us to not join in on the craze.

Just go with the flow mate. Go with the flow if you want to stay unnoticed.
Well, not everyone, but it'd still look bad to our potential ally Shego if we stayed on the sidelines.
I mean we could open a Hero academia, in Doofania. And try to promote heroing as a job.

Lol that interlude really kicked things off the rails. I think i understand now why people were panicking about the heroes and not the toons lol
I support opening a hero school at some point.
Hmmmm, I mean I'm not opposed to a hero school, but I think part of the problem for supers is the perception that they can only make full use of their powers in the cape and cowl game.
Then we change that perception via job opportunities and marketing on the social media platform we're going to have P+F design this turn.
My problem with starting a hero school is that we are right next to Drakkville which has Sky High, and I am fully serious about starting a magic school which would probably halfway serve as a Hero School as well.

Colorado does not need three Hero School's.
Eh, Sky High is mobile. If it doesn't like the competition it can just fly somewhere else easily.
All I'm hearing is "The Doofania Wizards vs The Colorado Superpowers in the TRI-STATE GRUDGBY CHAMPIONSHIPS!"

Forgot taking over the world, we franchise this out enough, and just imagine the merchandising sales!
Yessssssss. If we have our own state sponsored superhero team too, then we can handle their merchandising sales as well!
Yeah this would be different if the issue was popular but unimportant. The SRA is very important to many people.
Agreed.
That is the lamest excuse I've ever heard. If we actually say that when people ask us that question, we're gonna be written off as lazy and incompetent. Good for fooling enemies, bad for trying to form alliances, which is what we're doing. All saying this will do is piss Shego off even more than if we just didn't take a stance. We need to stand up and lobby against the SRA. Yes, that might seem as jumping on the bandwagon, but that's a short-term thing and easily fixable! Once we release dino meat onto the food markets and start releasing a bunch of other helpful products (stuff like Greevil), people will stop thinking, "Jeez, what a follower" and start thinking, "Wow, look at his initiative!" Besides, such "follower" sentiments will only take root if we just lobby. If we rebrand Insuricare as well as lobbying, this can be seen as us taking an initiative for something we believe in, lessening any thoughts about us "jumping on the bandwagon"
I agree with all of this. I elaborate on it later in the post, but we can provide more than just the appearence of jumping on a bandwagon by taking actual action to back up our words with. Something none of the others so far sans probably Shego have done yet.
Some things I noticed:


Doom has 28 diplo, much more than us despite being a very creepy fellow.

He got an additional dice? from rolling a 97, as a toon himself he could get a lower reroll threshold on all actions he takes.
We should claim Launchpads heartful speech inspired us.
We really should look into hiring Launchpad at some point. He could give us insight on what happened to Scrooge as well as perhaps Donald as well. That and he's just a good fellow who could be good for all toon expeditions. Best put him on the recruitment priority list thought I suppose. Wendy first.
Have you considered setting up a DEI. booth at Sky High on career day?
Hmmmm.... that might be a good plan. I'd wanna hire Warren first to try and get an idea on what went down with Sky High's ending first though.
Hey guys something to think about: Sky high is a high school for supers, Let's establish Univeristy level Heroing and S&R programs.
Sounds good to me. We've got hirable options for a starting set of teachers in our Rolodex as well.
I am likeing more and more the idea of drawing a parallel between supers and toons- support both but make Doom look bad at the same time, And I like the idea of further making Doofania cosmopolitan by accepting supers as well as toons. Next we accept predators from Zootopia and Eventually Doofania gets bonuses from every group the other villians are opposing- Making them look bad if they do it openly, and using our defenses against infiltration to counter stealthy manuvers.

DOFANIA the home of weirdness and equality
I support this vision! Make it our national motto or something.
Hey has anyone actually proposed an anti SRA bill yet?

There's been a whole lot of actions over it but if we're the first to write a bill (and roll well) we might end up showing off everything our scientists have been doing to explain why we haven't been part of the discussion when journalist's turn up.
Not yet, no. Just the repealing of it. There hasn't in the public conversation been any push for anything beyond the repealing of the SRA. There's been no thought put into what to do after they get to their goal of repealing it. Such a repeal would likely result in even more heros coming out of the woodwork, so we will need a system in place to train them. I'm thinking that we come out and propose the Medal System as an set of laws/system governing superheroics as well as the repeal of the SRA and announcing our changes to Insuricare policy. That way Doof isn't just going "I too support the repeal of the SRA!" but "I support the repeal of the SRA, but I also have a plan to prepare for the aftermath of superheroics becoming legal again. In fact, I am already taking the steps needed to prepare for said aftermath via changing Insuricare policy!"
here's what i'm thinking for a hero bill

  • Repeal of the SRA in its entirety
  • Establishment of a national training and certification system that anyone can apply to. Passing the final exam means you are certified to render aid in emgerancy situations (frist aid, search and rescue and so on) and enjoy a degree of protection beyond that of the good sumaritan laws
  • a second level of Certification where you are licensed to fight crime and enjoy Qualifed immunity equal to Law enforcement.
That looks good to me... I think the medals thing suggested is basically a more fleshed out version of this.
...Well, aside from my opinion that actually, no law enforcement should have such a thing as qualified immunity...
Okay, perhaps in the case of unexpected power interactions, but also...it really lets law enforcement perpetrate some really bad abuses. The cure is worse than the disease, at that point. Some sort of specialized "acts of god" clause, perhaps, but...sheesh.

Asides into real-world politics aside, we should definitely support repealing the SRA, and reform Insuricare.
Yup.
That can't be good!






Superhero sports. Of course. Why didn't I think of that.

(Also, worth remembering - Sky High is going to have a point in some number of years in which the people in charge are going to get overthrown, because Royal Pain's entire plan was "make everyone into babies, then train them into a new army!" and somehow along the way she forgot that the device in question was used on her at one point and it doesn't wipe memories - and no, the movie is explicit on the fact that they didn't fix that part - so all those "children" remember that their principal is a supervillain and are just waiting to get their powers back. And even if she didn't, Warren at least seems to have escaped and may still be out there, and he's plenty powerful too. So having a backup ready for when her plan inevitably fails might be a good idea.)
Mhm. If we want info on Sky High and how the movie ended, then hiring Warren at some point would be an good idea. Could be a teacher for our hero school.
I forgot to give you this one. More new cards are on the way!

Oh god, poor Go Go. She went full edge. That's... that's a really bad sign. Especially the comment about extreme violence. My friend Merc has theorized that Honey Lemon may have been the one that died. Which would be enough to drive Go Go to the level of violence that would lead to St Canard's, Fred going solo, and Hiro (probably) going full Red Hood Jason.
I can't imagine what St. Canard was like for Go Go Tomago.

Talk about death of innocence.
She might have gone full Rorshach: "I'm not trapped in here with you. You're trapped in here with me."

Big oof.... We really should look into hiring Fred or her to figure out what happened there. Fred does have info on the experiments being run down in the area due to encountering a turned-into-a-monster Juniper's mom. Who we probably should consider hiring at some point too for whenever we get around to writing that musical.
Notes on GoGo: Jesus, what happened to her? What happened to Big Hero 6? Questions for later.

I keep hearing ideas about a special school for supers and engineers. Here's mine:

DISCLAIMER: In no way are the headmasters and headmistresses canon or (in some cases) reasonable. This is just what I think would be cool in this scenario, or is just a reference
DOOFENSHMIRTZ EVIL UNIVERSITY FOR GIFTED INDIVIDUALS
This highly prestigious institution is focused on the betterment of our society and the nurturing of natural talent. Our top of the line facilities, staff, and classes are designed to help the next generation create something wonderful with their many gifts. Such facilities include:
Incredible Academy for Future Supers
Headmistress: Helen Parr

Typical Sky High knockoff that's been mentioned; teaches future heroes how to use their powers safely, as well as educates technological capes on how to properly use gear, as well as regulations on gear usage; offers internships with Doofania's hero agencies as well as DEI as privately hired supers

Valiant Academy for Aspiring Toons
Headmaster: Mickey Mouse
Sort of like a theater school; gives lessons in acting, as well as Toonforce and narrative power (like it's used by Russ and Coyote); offers internships to Doofenshmirtz Evil Motion Pictures, who also accept graduates from this institution as workers

Doofenshmirtz Academy for Talented Engineers
Headmaster: Winston Deavor/Janus Lee (I'm impartial; they both fit)
Because the world will always want the next Phineas and Ferb; typical engineering school, but encourages new ways of thinking and building; often creates patents for DEI sponsored capes

Perry Academy of Applied Law
Headmistress: Jennifer Walters
Law school for any future lawyers and law makers, as well as a way to avoid any more Judge Dooms

OWCA Academy of Espionage
Headmaster: Captain Carl
Who doesn't want to be a super spy? Teaches the art of spying, information gathering, the whole shabang. Also gives OWCA more resources, and gets us on good terms with the US by giving them trained agents

Stitch Academy of Enthusiastic Science
Headmaster: Jumba Jookiba
Basically creates scientists who study extra-terrestrial beings and technology; alien science school

Star Academy of Occult History
Headmistress: Janna Ordonia
Surface? Teaches the weirdos of the world the history behind cults, supposed magic, and conspiracy theories. Reality? Our own version of Hogwarts

Pines Academy of Paranormal Study
Headmaster: Dipper Pines
This one will come after we deal with Bill. Basically creates dozens of Stanford Pines, people who go around the world researching and studying weirdness

Doofenshmirtz Academy of Medicine
Headmistress: Dr. Ann Possible

Teaches every known form of healing under the sun (except magical, that's for Star Academy); attendees become omnidisciplinary in all medical fields, ranging from surgeons, to veterinarians, to blood and bone doctors, to psychiatrists, etc.
I'm 100% down with supporting this! Especially since it gives me more reason to campaign for finding Mickey at some point so we can get that musical with the OG Disney Trio in it.... also imagine that diplomacy stat! Also I for one support the name of our future film studio being Doofenshmirtz Evil Motion Pictures.
I feel like whatever system we implement should incentivize getting the proper training but not criminalize those who do hero work without it since one of the best things about super heroes is that new ones can appear out of nowhere with little to no build up.

Obviously vetted and trained superheroes are preferred, but saying you absolutely need to be is ignoring all the good done by people like Star, Radium Dog, the BH6, and everyone else across the country did by fighting the good fight despite being wanted by the law

With all that in mind, I'd like to propose a five ranked recognition and merit-based system for doofainia's use in the foreseeable future:

THE MEDAL
SYSTEM

This seems perfect and readily implementable after the SRA has been repealed? Perhaps we can campaign for this to be made U.S. Law alongside the SRA getting repealed?

Me: Hey, you know maybe we should-
Also Me: No. We are not getting her. We are swamped on diplomatic actions.
Me: But she's got good states
AM: No, she really doesn't compete with our high enders. And learning/Martial are ones we have enough of.
Me: She might have a speed tech specialty.
AM: We are overflowing on tech options. And people are pushing for the Gal Fed ship which will give us even more.
Me: But she could Doof Troop.
AM: Janna is a decent martial.
Me: She could be part of black ops!
AM: So could a lot of people.
Me: She might be able to get other BH6 members through personal actions rather than national
AM: Fred isn't much better, rest might be dead.
Me: But, but she's so sad
AM: a lot of people will be if we don't stop Toffee.
Me: But look at how tortured she looks
AM: No
Me: Can't you just feel the Technor therapy sessions writing themselves?
AM: I--- no. No, we can't, we couldn't get the votes. And that's final.
Me: Someone hurt Gogo bad enough to make her go full edge.
Also Me: *already pulling up various armaments and a map of San Fransokyo*
Also Also Me: *checking Technor's session schedule*
Can I join in on the Planning? I'm feeling a bit vengeful right now...
I'll join the Go Go Protection Squad as well.
I think we should provide free access to mental health checkups for all ranks and encourage them to take it.

But - and this is critical - for anyone to maintain a rank above Silver, they must go to regular mental health checkups to deal with the stress of the job. They, as a hero, are going to be on the front lines for a lot of dangerous, nasty and potentially traumatic things.

Also helps keep tabs on narcissists and psychos but keep that on the down low.

So part of the medal requirement is to "get a mental health checkup every turn." And yes, we'll be using 'turn' in-universe. "Everyone in Drusselstein knows a turn means two months!"

Yeah, I could get behind mandatory mental health check-ups. Such a thing really should be mandatory for professions that face violence or the results of it. Every two months or so seems reasonable to me.
 
[X] Accept Feldrake's Offer

With my (and Janna's) limited knowledge about Feldrake, this is probably the way I'd go. Keep anybody from dying immediately and rely on your team/friends to stop Feldrake and depuppet you later if possible. That calculus changes if I think Feldrake is too big a threat.

Though ramming is hilarious, so hey, approval vote in this omake.
[X] Write In: Sphericalize the spell and roll towards Toffee. Ramming speed.
 
[X] Accept Feldrake's Offer. The only chance you have of doing something.

Look any other option mentally torments Janna and kills two characters. But with this, we can torment all five. Max, Vanessa, Marco and Star all have personal connections to her. Meanwhile, she's left in a possesd state that can do horrible things before being freed and having to deal with horrific guilt. The angst. The drama. The therapy. My God, it will be beautiful.
 
no, no.
Government officials can still get QI, in a hypothetical "apparently we're keeping the government" universe in which my political opinions are relevant. Just not cops.
Cops, at the boots on the ground level, have absolutely no reason to need QI the same way a high-ranking official might, because they act on a small scale where what they deal with should absolutely be settled law, or rapidly settleable law.

The thing with QI in its current incarnation is that it makes ignorance of the law an excuse for law enforcement to break it.
i think you missed a shift in the discussion that happened after my first post.
also QI as a legal doctrine was not a thing till 1967 when the supreme court made it up and it was first applied to cops.
 
[X] Accept Feldrake's Offer

Why, pray tell, would we abandon our pride as SVers and NOT TAKE THE MYSTERY BOX?

Also, that "righteous breakdown to end the world" bias is coming in for me again.
 
[X] Write In: Sphericalize the spell and roll towards Toffee. Ramming speed.

If it's strong enough to keep Kalabar and Toffee out, it's strong enough to WALLOP THEM GOOD
[X] Write In: Sphericalize the spell and roll towards Toffee. Ramming speed.

...are we actually doing this?

ahahahha, clever but ehhhh. DM me would say:

1. No write ins! But bonus for the idea.
2. Okay in general I like "conceptual" magic. Right now Janna's spell is design as a protective aegis. Running away to save her friends lives is in that remit. Being turned into a weapon, less so. It'd likely fall apart, especially since she's running too low to do any serious spell sculpting right now. "Oh hurting the people harming your friends is totally protective!" eh, right now in her mental state? She's focused on RIP AND TEAR so no, not here. Motive counts!
 
As for the one still getting him money. He at the point about everything gets him money. Making some with that much wealth go broke is a very hard issue.
 
ahahahha, clever but ehhhh. DM me would say:

1. No write ins! But bonus for the idea.
2. Okay in general I like "conceptual" magic. Right now Janna's spell is design as a protective aegis. Running away to save her friends lives is in that remit. Being turned into a weapon, less so. It'd likely fall apart, especially since she's running too low to do any serious spell sculpting right now. "Oh hurting the people harming your friends is totally protective!" eh, right now in her mental state? She's focused on RIP AND TEAR so no, not here. Motive counts!

I would attempt to counter that by pointing out that in-universe protective magic can be used offensively as seen in Gravity Falls usage of the Anti-Bill Shield to create a giant robot that actually did decently in a fight against him, and then I'd back down in the same post and go "well, they never actually hurt Bill, just distracted him, and these are different series so I wouldn't blame you either way".
 
You know, when we go to the magic auction we should take Norm with us. Not just for security, but so we too can have our straight man. A mirror darkly of Xanatos and Owen's relationship.
 
You know, when we go to the magic auction we should take Norm with us. Not just for security, but so we too can have our straight man. A mirror darkly of Xanatos and Owen's relationship.

Nah the Doof troop can play the part.

a stright nan Toon is funnier.

Janna pranking Doof keeps people from taking us too seriously ( yes this Is a plus being underestimated is our greatest advantage)

Vanessa will help us bond with Xanatos over Fatherhood as well as dealing with sane issues for us.
 
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