[] Plan: Allied Kings
If we aren't having Coyote Stewardship, then he is better spent searching ACME's records for dirt against Doom. Lizzy also has a malus for all Diplomacy rolls on quests. Collaborating with Shego won't be possible until after we finish Reach out to Shego. LA Crime doesn't have a high DC, it has an ??? DC. It is completely possible that they are A-OKAY with DEI. They haven't taken actions against it, even though they know what we are doing. Toffee should be investigated so we have that knowledge when we meet Xanatos. I'd rather have Jumba on Galfed. AI research can be put back until we have Wendy. Ludivine is the best choice for dimensional research despite her low attention span. Dennis is better spent finding a master. If he does benefit from it, we won't ever use it. While Dennis being trained from 17 Martial to some number greater than that is funnier.

Xanadu has rather weak Diplomacy, especially with Lizzy's debuff.
 
Okay, I'll just lay this out.

1. The drug ring established themselves through a highly addictive nootropic drug. Very likely to not be hyperbole.
2. They have expanded out to drugs that can grant super powers and are poitentially lethal, while working out the kinks to make them more stable and less likely to kill the user.
3. They have been operating undisturbed from what we can tell for at least a year.

So, what does that tell us?

1. They've been dealing long enough to amass a huge number of addicts.
2. Said addicts are likely willing to pop a super-pill to defend their dealer so they don't miss their next hit.
3. They. Are. Entrenched.
4. Shego either has been failing to deal with them, or just doesn't give a shit and has let them go ham on the mundane population.
5. They are literally building an army of pseudo-Supers. They have all of the pieces right there.

Does anyone else see why I'm a little tetchy about this "we don't want to upset Shego" bullshit?
Let's just reach out to shego this turn then corroborate on Investigating the drug ring next turn.
Nah. At this point I see an independent investigation into the drug ring as a critical expression of our power and independence as a King. We need to do it without Shego's permission, or we're just her vassal.
Okay that's still assuming that that specific reading of the map is correct, ignoring that the spread of a criminal organisation is nothing like an actual war, that there's been absolutely no solid mention of them being in our territory which their almost certainly would've been if they were and that we have no reason whatsoever to believe that waiting one turn to talk to Shego would be disastrous for some reason

@Made in Heaven can we get some confirmation on whether or not the drug ring has expanded into our territory?

It really isn't, she's a very powerful neighbour and one of the only ones that we aren't almost certainly going to be hostile with

Pissing her off serves absolutely no purpose

Again assuming that that reading of the map is right and if it is her and we have a good relation with her A) She might involve us in it which could be advantageous B) Give us a sample of some of the drugs which we might be able to improve and C) Might be able to come to an arrangement between equals who respect each other to keep her super drugs out of our territory

None of which are possible if we piss her off unnecessarily

Only if it actually is in our territory, which it very well might not be, and reaching out to her makes future investigation easier because our agent said wouldn't need to avoid her forces as well as the drug ring itself

She respects being respected and competence, if we walk into a meeting with her and say "Oh by the way I had my men infiltrate your territory and investigate that drug ring here's what we found out" her respons won't be "wow you're so strong and cool Doofenshmirtz" it'll be "you did fucking what!? The sheer disrespect it takes to come into my territory and look into my business before you even had the decency to reach out to me is ridiculous"

Of course they do but they don't infiltrate criminal organisations right under the noses of other friendly nations that haven't done anything to them without at least reaching out to that country

And they especially don't rub the results of that investigation into their friendly neighbours face as a reminder of their power and independence

A reason *aside from "We don´t wanna upset Shego by snooping around her Territory"* (which is still a valid concern, because aside from Xanatos she is the one King we are on good-ish terms with and we´ll need allies once shit really goes down) to okay our investigations about the Middleton Drug Ring:

Cooperating with her will boost *both* our chances of actually suceeding at dealing with that drug trafficking ring.

Image that one day, we have sent Russ to investigate that drug ring (let´s just say that some kind of complication prevents us from sending him to Toontown for a while - I just need him as an explicitly Intrigue-capable Hero Unit for this example). He proceeds to infitrate a cell is ready to bust an influential dealer no problem. Suddenly something goes awry and now Russ has to fight that guy´s hired muscle, who gives him such a fight that by-and-by the whole small city block is getting dragged into it with lots of civilian witnesses and even injured. after a while one of the two combatants prevails, only to realize that their opponent is an operative sent by Doof/Shego to get some in into the drug cartell.

Congrats, us two Kings outta some weird sense of arrogant pride not talking to each other caused a national incident that severly compromised the Masquerade (especially considering that Shegos goon directly assaulted someone who on top of being in the employ of another King is also a FEDERAL AGENT OF THE US GOVERNMENT) and caused two neighboring Kings who until now were pretty chill about each other to descend into a state of open war.

Admittedly a rather drastic example, but it still shows neatly why cooperation between different services that are - at least nominally - on the same side (like FBI and CIA) need to work together in order to not make things any worse than it already is. So we should talk to Shego about coordinating our actions against the drug ring (remember, Middleton is East Colorado and therefore pretty close to our border already - I´d rather keep that cancer contained as much as possible) or at least not step on *each others toes*.

Hey folks, recent message from C-Moon in the Discord. I forget who mentioned it, but someone said donating an amount to the Fox Xanatos Memorial Fund was a good idea. C-Moon is willing to add that as a personal action if it gets traction. If you also think it's a good idea (this turn or in the coming turns), consider reacting to this post or posting similarly.

Definitely up to it. Even if we don´t use a magically-significant number (which might be for the better anyway), it still sends a message of goodwill towards both him and any of his employees benefitting from us - to say nothing of the good PR in general.

Heck, once we meet him we should offer him our *genuine* condolences as a fellow family man. I f nothing else it´d be a polite gesture towards a man that has been nothing but approachable to us.

This is interesting. Mirage implied in her report that Xanatos is a heavy employer of supers. In the context of this, Xanatos pushing for a repeal of the SRA isn't that surprising.

Yeah, was a bit confused why he was throwing in his hat into the ring regardless of side considering that he is on the other side of the country. But with that knowledge it´s also obvious why we never got to know about him having supers.

Okay, here my latest ideas regarding next turn planning.

[] Plan: Allied Kings
-[] Dinosaur Cavalry (Wile Coyote)
-[] Reach out to Shego (Vanessa)
-[] Try to Collaborate With Xanatos on an Issue
--cooperate with Xanatos (and if possible Shego) on SRA repeal (Goofy)
-[] Develop a new social media platform (Phineas and Ferb)
-[] Rebrand Insuricare (Mirage)
-[] Subvert Hawk (Agent Russ)
-[] Search for Star (Tobe and the Vagabond Ninja)
-[] Survey Galfed Ship/Dimensional technology (Dr. Jumba Jookiba)
-[] Research doppelganger AI (Ludivine von Drake)
-[] Capoeira dance magic (Dennis the Duck)
-[] Buy out Lee Industries? (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.)
-[] Investigate Middleton Drug Ring (Dickens Detective Agency)

Personal:
-[ ] Tinker with your Inators
-[ ] Read your Spellbook
-[ ] Chat with the Bossman
--[ ] Goofy
-[ ] Hire Dickens Detective Agency
--[ ] Investigate Middleton Drug Ring

Quests:
-[] You Made Me Love Xanadu
--[] Quest Leader: Genghis Khan
--[] Janna Ordonia
--[] Max
--[] Queen Lizzie

Reasoning.

Martial:
Coyote on Dinosaur Cavalry to free Lizzie for Quest. Also I believe that he is world foremost expert on running birdlike creatures.

Diplomacy:
Here we are trying to collaborate with Shego and Xanatos on SRA issue. I want to note, that it's not us who receive their help on PR issues, it's we who is trying to back them. We have money to burn and Xanatos knows which pockets needs to be filled for things to run smoothly. If he thinks that we need to make speech or two we will make it, if he prefer that we stay silent since we already too late to the game then we stay silent.

I believe that there was 3 issue with SRA: Kings reaction, supers reaction and public relation. In this action we address specifically Kings in best possible manner – we are not trying to steal their thunder or raid on their coat tails. And cooperation between us by itself perhaps more important than all this SRA issue. Meanwhile supers side of thing we resolve through Insurecare, supers will need to think twice before attacking guy who manage their insurance. And for public we take develop social media platform and advertise our changes to Insurecare.

I use Goofy on Diplomacy since he is our best diplo and already meet with Xanatos. If you are worried about his loyalty issue then I want to note that I don't belive that college is solution here. I already include Chat with Bossman Goofy personal and maybe even put Technor on him, I still can't decide between him, Janna or Stanley on therapy issue.

Stewardship:
Develop a new social media platform (Phineas and Ferb) already mentioned in Diplomacy part.
Rebrand Insuricare with Mirage since we can't use her on diplomacy because of Evelin problem, and through this she still can help supers.

Buy out Lee Industries with L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N. so we can gain at least one useful hero this turn. Like we can move cooperate with Xanatos on the turn after and recruit Kitsune or Wendy instead, but I really want to put this whole SRA thing behind and never return to it, and if we drug it on several more turns there can appear new social media actions which will have synergy with our diplo actions and maybe Doom again says something bad about us and people will jump to social network option to say something back… like this turn I want to close this issue as firmly as possible.

Intrigue:
Subvert Hawk (Agent Russ) – I was reluctant to tack LA crime action before because of high DC, and this turn nothing changed. Meanwhile Hawk just become easer, it's better option for messing with Doom and can improve LA crime DC. Also maybe we can make it look as if recruitment attempt comes from some obscure American agency, so Hawk don't knows that he will work for us ( to cover tracks in case of failure, and in case Hawk also works for Encom and LA underground).

I put Tobe and his Ninjas on Star trail since he knows magic and have decent intrigue.If DC too high for him maybe i will be forced to put Russ on it an make Tobe spy on our employers.

Investigate Middleton Drug Ring (Dickens Detective Agency) – I believe that working through intermediaries partially negate concerns about Shego so we can attempt to take this action this turn. And investigate Toffee can be taken when we stacked more bonuses on it.

Learning:
Survey Galfed Ship/Dimensional technology (Dr. Jumba Jookiba) I think if dimensional technology reachable we should take it so we can start looking for Star/Marko in other dimensions. If not then our space ship.
Research doppelganger AI (Ludivine von Drake) – someone should work on our AI actions.

Occult: Capoeira dance magic
From interlude it seems that dancing magic somehow can help on felldrake map quest chain, and since it's also looking for Donald quest line, it will be good if we make Dennis someone useful to bring along.

Can get behind that one, I think.
 
Admittedly a rather drastic example, but it still shows neatly why cooperation between different services that are - at least nominally - on the same side (like FBI and CIA) need to work together in order to not make things any worse than it already is. So we should talk to Shego about coordinating our actions against the drug ring (remember, Middleton is East Colorado and therefore pretty close to our border already - I´d rather keep that cancer contained as much as possible) or at least not step on *each others toes*.
drastic? You might as well have been shouting that the sky is falling. The action is to investigate the drug ring. It isn't bust them up. Based on what we know, Shego isn't directly involved in the cartel. She probably doesn't care about it in the least. Remember, the territory on the map is more of a sphere of influence. The only "Kingdoms" that could be considered territorial claims in the sense that you are claiming are Doofania, the Tempest Domain, the Toxic Jungle, and the Wastelands.

Now, this doesn't change the fact that I would prefer Russ to poke LA and see what happens, but this is just an awful argument.
 
Edit: Whoops. Forgot about the strikethrough code.
Here's my plan for the next turn:

[ ] Doof VS Good and Evil
-[M] Dino cavalry (Temujin)
-[D] Reach out to Shego (Vanessa)
-[D] Collab with Xanatos (and maybe Shego) on the anti-SRA campaign (Goofy)
- Social media (P&F)
- Doofhawk (Mirage)
- Lee (LOVEMUFFIN)
- Investigate Toffee (Russ)
- Spy on Employees (Tobe)
- Search for Star/Marco (Dickens)
-[L] Human Genetics (Jumba)
-[L] Doppelganger AI (Ludivine)
-[O] Alchemy
-[Doof] Tinker with inators
-[Doof] Hire Dickens
-[Doof] Read Spellbook
-[Doof] Make up with Roger
-[Dennis] Search for a master
-[Max] Play Videogames
-[TECHNOR] Psychoanalyze Stanley
-[Coyote] ACME files
-[Francis] Reorganize OWCA
-[Hego] Good Deeds
-[Lizzy] Excavation


I'm not going to explain this because it's going to cause arguments to happen. And I'm not going to answer any questions because it's nighttime in my timezone.
 
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If we aren't having Coyote Stewardship, then he is better spent searching ACME's records for dirt against Doom. Lizzy also has a malus for all Diplomacy rolls on quests. Collaborating with Shego won't be possible until after we finish Reach out to Shego. LA Crime doesn't have a high DC, it has an ??? DC. It is completely possible that they are A-OKAY with DEI. They haven't taken actions against it, even though they know what we are doing. Toffee should be investigated so we have that knowledge when we meet Xanatos. I'd rather have Jumba on Galfed. AI research can be put back until we have Wendy. Ludivine is the best choice for dimensional research despite her low attention span. Dennis is better spent finding a master. If he does benefit from it, we won't ever use it. While Dennis being trained from 17 Martial to some number greater than that is funnier.
Xanadu has rather weak Diplomacy, especially with Lizzy's debuff.
Thanks for the input, here my thoughts on these issues.
Depending on Insurecare DC I will look if I can swap Lizzie with Mirage. Mechanically optimal choice will be to put Mirage on quest, Lizzie on Dinosaur Cavalry and Coyote on Insurecare so maybe I will go with this. On the other hand i really want to put Mirage on Insurecare and she does not look like someone who will appreciate moutain hiking, so maybe with 100+ martial we don't need good diplomaty ? I still undecided on the issue.

Since it happens on the same turn collaborating with Shego should be possible in case we normally roll on her visit ( Shego visit is one day thing, collaboration with Xanatos is more extended venture so it's reasonable to assume that we negotiate with Shego first and work together later) And honestly Shego here added as possible bonus, I will be satisfied with good Xanatos collaboration.

Regarding LA crime I prefer we don't depend on their mood.

Toffee investigation seems rushed, like I understand that we learn something, but knowing that it's Toffee it's unlikely that we find his genocidal plans, and without it I would be reluctant to speak with Xanatos about him at length. Like we can say to Xanatos that our primary magic expert strongly recommended to refuse lizard corn deal, and we are in the process of investigation into it and it should be enough for now.

Regarding Dennis we don't really needed more martial heroes now, so i don't think there is point in increasing his martial.
 
drastic? You might as well have been shouting that the sky is falling. The action is to investigate the drug ring. It isn't bust them up. Based on what we know, Shego isn't directly involved in the cartel. She probably doesn't care about it in the least. Remember, the territory on the map is more of a sphere of influence. The only "Kingdoms" that could be considered territorial claims in the sense that you are claiming are Doofania, the Tempest Domain, the Toxic Jungle, and the Wastelands.

Now, this doesn't change the fact that I would prefer Russ to poke LA and see what happens, but this is just an awful argument.

Even investigations can go fucky if operatives of different agencies don´t recognize each other - that´s Intrigue 101, pal.

Plus,those drugs most likely directly interfere in Shegos ability to make business in afflicted area, meaning that she does or at least should care.
 
If there's going to be a tag for every person we pick a fight with, it's going to be a long list.

Which is why we should keep a list.

Doom is our most hated enemy.
Shego our most hated rival.
Toffee is our most secretly hated secret enemy.
Xanatos is our most favored frenimy.
Auto is our most unknown enemy.
The drug ring is our most ignored enemy.
Bill is our FDJYT UHONQ MVCOD.
Bellweather is our most hated non-enemy.
Khan is our most favored non-frenimy.
Drossel is our most anticipated non-enemy.

See, lists help!
 
Which is why we should keep a list.

Doom is our most hated enemy.
Shego our most hated rival.
Toffee is our most secretly hated secret enemy.
Xanatos is our most favored frenimy.
Auto is our most unknown enemy.
The drug ring is our most ignored enemy.
Bill is our FDJYT UHONQ MVCOD.
Bellweather is our most hated non-enemy.
Khan is our most favored non-frenimy.
Drossel is our most anticipated non-enemy.

See, lists help!
Correction: Shego is our GREATEST Rival. No most hated there.
 
Alright then, I guess I'm bored enough to throw a serious plan for not going to Xanadu.

[] Plan July/August 2016 Theorizing (No Xanadu)
-[] National Actions
--[] Outfit PMC with energy weapons (Queen Lizzy)
--[] Reach out to Shego (Vanessa)
--[] Try to Collaborate With Xanatos on an Issue (Repeal SRA) (Goofy)
--[] Develop a new social media platform (Phineas and Ferb)
--[] Rebrand Insuricare (Hego)
--[] Buyout Lee Industries (LOVEMUFFIN)
--[] Investigate crime in LA (Agent Russ)
--[] Second Intrigue Action
--[] Investigate Toffee (Dickens Detective Agency)
--[] Dimensional Research (depends on the DC) (Ludivine Von Drake)
--[] Survey GalFed ship (Dr. Jumba Jookiba)
--[] Study Dance Magic
-[] Personal Actions
--[] Tinker with your Inators (Doofenshmirtz)
--[] Read your Spellbook (Doofenshmirtz)
--[] Summon Malifishmertz (Doofenshmirtz)
--[] Hire the Dickens (Doofenshmirtz)
--[] Get an apartment (Genghis Khan)
--[] Set up a trap (Wile E. Coyote)
--[] Reorganize OWCA (Francis Monogram)
--[] Search for an Instructor (Dennis the Duck)
--[] Psychoanalyze (TECHNOR)
---[] Stanley
--[] Play some video games (Max)
--[] Reinforce Kronos Corp contacts (Mirage)
--[] Study magic with Feldrake (Janna)

Uhh, now I'll defend my choices, I guess?

Martial: I think we've been sitting on Energy Weapons for far too long and it has the lowest DC I feel comfortable with. If Dino cavalry has a lower DC I'd be happy to take Khan out of finding an apartment and just stick him in their.
Diplomacy: Maybe reaching out to Shego will give Vanessa good experience? I think working with Xanatos to repeal the SRA will boost his opinion of us, and lower our chance of failure.
Stewardship: Phineas and Ferb for Social Media has been talked about already. I think Hego can deal with rebranding Insuricare, he managed with buying it out. I'm not sure about LOVEMUFFIN on Lee Industries. With XP they would only need to roll a 13 or above. Surely they can't fuck this up, can they?
Intrigue: I want to poke LA already and Russ has the greatest chance. We need to get Doom on the backfoot. I don't know what to do with our second Intrigue action, none of the DCs are comfortable enough for me to go for them. There probably is a search for Marco/Star that I guess we could stick Tobe on. We need to investigate Toffee for the auction and the Dickens are probably the best choice.
Learning: I want to open the Galfed mystery box. Jumba has a bonus of 101 before his loyalty bonus from the Vacation expires when July/August is done. It might have useful computing or stuff. I put Ludivine on Dimensional tech because it sounds difficult. I'd rather research AI with Wendy.
Occult: We don't really need a hero on that and hopefully it will boost future Doof's Occult stat.
Personal: Tinker so we don't mess with Candace, Spellbook and Grunkle so we can Occult, Dickens because new Intrigue hero. I put Genghis Khan on apartment because I don't know what else to do with him, we might need to Dino cavalry before he can get a dino steed. Setting up a trap could improve Doof's COMPLETELY EXPECTED trait, which given Toffee, might be a good idea. OWCA needs to be reorganized already. Dennis can raise his Martial even MORE! We should probably get Stanley out of prison already. Video games for a busy action. Reinforcing Kronos Olympia contacts with Mirage to set the ground work for reaching out to Evelyn Deavor. Janna on studying magic so she can boost her Occult score.

The reason why I did this was because although I would be willing to go to Xanadu, I think options are necessary. I do admit that we probably would be in a better position for September/October if we don't do Xanadu.

Thanks for the input, here my thoughts on these issues.
Lizzy actively hurts a region where without her we only have a bonus of 28. With her we would have 23. Remember Chicken Itza and all those low rolls that could have been averted if we hadn't sent the B-Team? The only bonus in Chicken Itza that was worse than your proposal for Xanadu is Occult. Which was at -5. Again, remember how well Chicken Itza went?

We had to wait 2 or so turns until we could collaborate with Xanatos after we reached out to him. We aren't going to get anything out of Shego.

LA Crime is more important because Doom and ENCOM are based in that area. We don't know their mood because we haven't actually investigated. Besides, Shego might say something about the drug cartel when we reach out to her. I doubt it, but it would be a nice bonus for waiting.

Investigating Tobe has, does, and always will take only one action. Taking it now is not rushing. Saying that we are in the process of gathering information makes us look weaker. Having already investigated makes us look proactive.

We do need more Martial heroes? Most of our Martial actions are tech-based, which Genghis Khan can't do very well. Hilariously enough, Dennis is pretty useful and I would like to cultivate him further.

Even investigations can go fucky if operatives of different agencies don´t recognize each other - that´s Intrigue 101, pal.

Plus,those drugs most likely directly interfere in Shegos ability to make business in afflicted area, meaning that she does or at least should care.
Yes, and that won't happen. It would take a critical failure for something nearly half as bad as you described to happen. Russ wouldn't fight that publicly he isn't stupid. Mind you, the only way to have a critical failure would be rolling a Natural One because Russ would have a bonus of 58, well above the ability to critically fail at 45 and below.

I doubt that they do much. In the DVV:Gridlocked fluff docs it is established that Shego gives just about zero fucks about non-powered individuals. It's Ancapistan but with superpowers not money. If Shego did care, then she would have already infiltrated it. She has a much better Intrigue score than us anyways, and probably more Intrigue heroes she can delegate to.
 
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Yes, and that won't happen. It would take a critical failure for something nearly half as bad as you described to happen. Russ wouldn't fight, he isn't stupid. Mind you, the only way to have a critical failure would be rolling a Natural One because Russ would have a bonus of 58, well above the ability to critically fail at 45 and below.

I doubt that they do much. In the DVV:Gridlocked fluff docs it is established that Shego gives just about zero fucks about non-powered individuals. It's Ancapistan but with superpowers not money. If Shego did care, then she would have already infiltrated it. She has a much better Intrigue score than us anyways, and probably more Intrigue heroes she can delegate to.

... I knew I shouldn´t have used such a specific and drastic example because some would fixate on the exageration instead of the basic message.

Ask anyone does investigative works for a living (cops, private eyes, whatever) in areas where a lot of different factions - some of them "local authorities" doing their own investigations - are active about what one should pay attention to to one of the first things they´ll tell you is *to make sure that the "authorities" have at least a vague idea about your presence here* in order for the two of you to not accidentially hinder each other in the process.
 
... I knew I shouldn´t have used such a specific and drastic example because some would fixate on the exageration instead of the basic message.

Ask anyone does investigative works for a living (cops, private eyes, whatever) in areas where a lot of different factions - some of them "local authorities" doing their own investigations - are active about what one should pay attention to to one of the first things they´ll tell you is *to make sure that the "authorities" have at least a vague idea about your presence here* in order for the two of you to not accidentially hinder each other in the process.
I know that it probably would be better to investigate the drug cartels after reaching out to Shego.

Now, this doesn't change the fact that I would prefer Russ to poke LA and see what happens, but this is just an awful argument.
LA Crime is more important because Doom and ENCOM are based in that area. We don't know their mood because we haven't actually investigated. Besides, Shego might say something about the drug cartel when we reach out to her. I doubt it, but it would be a nice bonus for waiting.
I started this argument saying that you picked a shitty way to advance your position. I have said three times since this started that I would prefer to poke LA (one of them talking to you, the second while defending my plan, and another while talking with Alex).

More likely than not Shego hasn't done anything or she even supports it. We don't have much reason to think that she's done anything based on the Rival Reports. The DVV: Gridlocked fluff docs say this:
Shego rules with a cruel, if lazy hand. She tends to delegate serious problems that aren't happening right in front of her to other people, and will often be (or pretend to be) too busy to talk to people if they don't have anything to make it worth her while. In areas DrakkTech controls, baseline humans have less room for advancement than supers, who can use their talents to gain an unfair edge over the competition. If you don't have powers or access to tech that can even the odds, then tough luck.
She's probably fine with it because it creates more assets. I don't think that there will be much investigation into the cartel that could conflict with Russ. Besides, a 58 is a pretty nice bonus. If we lowered the XP we'd only have to roll a 22.
 
Not sure about your math. We have 15 diplo from Khan and 18 diplo from Max (he has +5 from Doof Troop) with Lizzie -5 we have 28 total, plus Khan reduce all DC by -10 i.e. 38 diplo.
I think I was looking at Vanessa's diplomacy? Still, I'm not sure 38 is a good enough bonus.

Then why are you arguing *Against* my point? I just don´t get it.
I was criticising your argument, not your point. Allowing terrible arguments like Russ somehow makes our investigation go public because conflict go uncontested will weaken arguments for waiting to investigate the cartel.
 
I think I was looking at Vanessa's diplomacy? Still, I'm not sure 38 is a good enough bonus.


I was criticising your argument, not your point. Allowing terrible arguments like Russ somehow makes our investigation go public because conflict go uncontested will weaken arguments for waiting to investigate the cartel.

I already said why I specifically picked Russ - because I KNOW that he is an Intrigue-heavy Hero Unit, not because I expect him to stay and fight. I simply tried showing why cooperating with other "authorities" over investigations would be a good idea even aside from not wanting to offend Shego (which some seem to see as a laughable concern for some reason).

Just switch out Russ in my explanation for someone more likely to stay and fight in the heat of the moment.
 
... I knew I shouldn´t have used such a specific and drastic example because some would fixate on the exageration instead of the basic message.

Ask anyone does investigative works for a living (cops, private eyes, whatever) in areas where a lot of different factions - some of them "local authorities" doing their own investigations - are active about what one should pay attention to to one of the first things they´ll tell you is *to make sure that the "authorities" have at least a vague idea about your presence here* in order for the two of you to not accidentially hinder each other in the process.
Your argument only applies if both we and shego decide to infiltrate the gang, as opposed to gathering information, blackmail, sabotage, falsifying information or any other intrigue action we/she could take in the long run.

None of which we'd commit to in our first and only action investigating them.
 
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I already said why I specifically picked Russ - because I KNOW that he is an Intrigue-heavy Hero Unit, not because I expect him to stay and fight. I simply tried showing why cooperating with other "authorities" over investigations would be a good idea even aside from not wanting to offend Shego (which some seem to see as a laughable concern for some reason).

Just switch out Russ in my explanation for someone more likely to stay and fight in the heat of the moment.
The only Intrigue hero that we have who would stay in fight would be Tobe. The thread wouldn't ever send him. And mind you, Mirage has a high enough bonus that a critical failure wouldn't happen. The Dickens, well, pffft.

Shego won't give any fucks. As I explained here, her territory is more of a sphere of influence. She only got pissed about Bueno Nacho because of Hego. She won't get mad because we decided to look in a drug cartel bordering Doofania.
Remember, the territory on the map is more of a sphere of influence. The only "Kingdoms" that could be considered territorial claims in the sense that you are claiming are Doofania, the Tempest Domain, the Toxic Jungle, and the Wastelands.
 
Which is why we should keep a list.

Doom is our most hated enemy.
Shego our most hated rival.
Toffee is our most secretly hated secret enemy.
Xanatos is our most favored frenimy.
Auto is our most unknown enemy.
The drug ring is our most ignored enemy.
Bill is our FDJYT UHONQ MVCOD.
Bellweather is our most hated non-enemy.
Khan is our most favored non-frenimy.
Drossel is our most anticipated non-enemy.

See, lists help!

I would bump Toffee up to potential Arch enemy . For now as we have personal reasons to go after him.
 
Quick question, but can someone remind me of exactly how many national actions of each type do we have at the moment?

I seem to recall two for most, except Martial, but I'd want to be sure.
 
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