- Location
- California
Only because Bill seems to be the only Eldritch monster.
DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
- Start date
- Crossover
Also, not enough people wear fancy hats.
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- He/Him
You know, there really should be a second dimension doofquest negaverse omake.
Since our Doof is leader of a two and a half states area, the 2nd dimension Doof of Doofquest should rule most of America.
That's what I think it would be like, at least.
Since our Doof is leader of a two and a half states area, the 2nd dimension Doof of Doofquest should rule most of America.
That's what I think it would be like, at least.
- Location
- Idaho
I love this idea, but I'm going to add that I want another omake about our Heroes seeing second dimension Doof and realize that their Doof is (cosmicly speaking) the good guy.
The loops it'll throw everyone through will be hilarious. Especially Russ and monogram, not to mention Hugo's brain melting at the cognitive dissidents occurring in his own mind.
Even other king's reaction would be amazing. Xanatos' internal monologue is gold by itself.
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Let me just start by saying that that this might be both an utterly inane and stupid idea, but I ask y'all to hear me out:
I have to say that I'm not really a fan of spending time lobbying against the SRA - whether it be through our intrigue or diplomactic actions or what have you. Because while I'd like to continue being EVIL rather than evil/indifferent, acting against it feels too altruistic - when it doesn't even apply to our sovereign nation in the first place.
But as I was showering an idea popped into my head! Why am I writing like this you guys don't care what am I making a sales pitch?
Long Story Short: What if we were to make a musical number (like those Doof is so famous for), that simply makes fun of the SRA and lauds the fact that the SRA doesn't even apply in Doofania.
Oh, and that makes copious mention of how Doofania is awesome.
By doing so we fulfill my desire for:
A) A musical showpiece (that I have personally felt to be sorely lacking in this quest), and
B) An utterly inane action that has everyone else looking at Doof, wondering what in the world is wrong with him and just what's going on in his head.
C) An action that both helps others while arguably being to our benefit, so that we can maintain that veneer of EVIL
And there are so many possibilities!
Just some that I had off the top of my head:
1) We could use our newly obtained Avatar of Feldrake to play the part of the big bad monster that's smashing up the city in the background. Even evil maniacal sorcerers bent on universal domination thinks it's dumb to persecute your own defenders!
2) For the musical number, to make it easier on the QMs, we could maybe do a rendition of "I need a Hero" instead (possibly sung by Doof). Or maybe do a mix of that and an original musical number. To that end, maybe the thread can collaborate on the vocals/lyrics? Depending on how well we do the QMs could have that influence the DC/our roll bonuses
3) Feature heroes! Actually, I guess this would just be Hego - but by featuring him in the video we could possibly win points with Shego! We could maybe even diplo Shego herself into making an appearance, and maybe put out an ad looking for other heroes to participate? That this could double as a recruitment pitch/action is another plus.
4) I'm actually torn on whether to include Russ/have him make a cameo as the sort of secret agent type hero - he'd be ecstatic if something he did directly influenced the return of the golden age, but it would likely compromise him somewhat as a spy.
5) We can poke fun at Doom! Via caricature! Well not really cause he's actually like that, but we could take a jab at his PR for being genocidal against toons! As an added bonus we might be able to kill any support he might garner for having spoken out against the SRA in his own attacks against us.
And... yeah. That's all for now, I think? Kind of was bombarded by ideas and couldn't put them to metaphorical paper fast enough, but that's at least the broad strokes.
On an entirely unrelated note, I think we should also send out a singles ad across the multiverse!
Something like "kooky-but-in-a-cute-way mad scientist looking for single eldritch women".
Not only would this get Doof into the dating game - it will likely help counter Bill Cipher as well!
Plus, while Shego is thus far proving a strong contender I know some people were dissatisfied with the possible age difference, and this would give us some dating options.
Not to mention Doof is a real catch - we gotta at least make give Shego a contender and make her work for it.
(Okay the dating thing is probably a terrible idea, but I stand by the musical!)
I have to say that I'm not really a fan of spending time lobbying against the SRA - whether it be through our intrigue or diplomactic actions or what have you. Because while I'd like to continue being EVIL rather than evil/indifferent, acting against it feels too altruistic - when it doesn't even apply to our sovereign nation in the first place.
But as I was showering an idea popped into my head! Why am I writing like this you guys don't care what am I making a sales pitch?
Long Story Short: What if we were to make a musical number (like those Doof is so famous for), that simply makes fun of the SRA and lauds the fact that the SRA doesn't even apply in Doofania.
Oh, and that makes copious mention of how Doofania is awesome.
By doing so we fulfill my desire for:
A) A musical showpiece (that I have personally felt to be sorely lacking in this quest), and
B) An utterly inane action that has everyone else looking at Doof, wondering what in the world is wrong with him and just what's going on in his head.
C) An action that both helps others while arguably being to our benefit, so that we can maintain that veneer of EVIL
And there are so many possibilities!
Just some that I had off the top of my head:
1) We could use our newly obtained Avatar of Feldrake to play the part of the big bad monster that's smashing up the city in the background. Even evil maniacal sorcerers bent on universal domination thinks it's dumb to persecute your own defenders!
2) For the musical number, to make it easier on the QMs, we could maybe do a rendition of "I need a Hero" instead (possibly sung by Doof). Or maybe do a mix of that and an original musical number. To that end, maybe the thread can collaborate on the vocals/lyrics? Depending on how well we do the QMs could have that influence the DC/our roll bonuses
3) Feature heroes! Actually, I guess this would just be Hego - but by featuring him in the video we could possibly win points with Shego! We could maybe even diplo Shego herself into making an appearance, and maybe put out an ad looking for other heroes to participate? That this could double as a recruitment pitch/action is another plus.
4) I'm actually torn on whether to include Russ/have him make a cameo as the sort of secret agent type hero - he'd be ecstatic if something he did directly influenced the return of the golden age, but it would likely compromise him somewhat as a spy.
5) We can poke fun at Doom! Via caricature! Well not really cause he's actually like that, but we could take a jab at his PR for being genocidal against toons! As an added bonus we might be able to kill any support he might garner for having spoken out against the SRA in his own attacks against us.
And... yeah. That's all for now, I think? Kind of was bombarded by ideas and couldn't put them to metaphorical paper fast enough, but that's at least the broad strokes.
On an entirely unrelated note, I think we should also send out a singles ad across the multiverse!
Something like "kooky-but-in-a-cute-way mad scientist looking for single eldritch women".
Not only would this get Doof into the dating game - it will likely help counter Bill Cipher as well!
Plus, while Shego is thus far proving a strong contender I know some people were dissatisfied with the possible age difference, and this would give us some dating options.
Not to mention Doof is a real catch - we gotta at least make give Shego a contender and make her work for it.
(Okay the dating thing is probably a terrible idea, but I stand by the musical!)
My thoughts regarding SRA issue:
1)We are independent country, why we even care?
2)With Shego long time cape support position, Kronos corp recent turn, and Doom last turn action, hopping on this bandwagon kinda late for us to receive any substantial benefits.
3)We already helped Shego with her main rival. Repealing SRA is boon for her, but don't gives us a thing. Like I understand, you guys want to help her, but I hope not to the point where she rules world with us ending like Drakken.
4)If after Evelin inevitable betrayal SRA repeal crush and burns, it's preferable for us stay from this issue as far as possible. Actually Doom is the one whom it will hurt the most, since he is pro-super for PR sake. Shego pro super as life position, and she operated under SRA for years. For her it will be disappointment in sense that she did not manage to increase her influence, not some actual threat. May be she will even take our example and proclaim independence of her territory.
Overall I prefer if we focus on magical issues, and let Shego, Doom and Evelin duke out this PR battle between themselves.
1)We are independent country, why we even care?
2)With Shego long time cape support position, Kronos corp recent turn, and Doom last turn action, hopping on this bandwagon kinda late for us to receive any substantial benefits.
3)We already helped Shego with her main rival. Repealing SRA is boon for her, but don't gives us a thing. Like I understand, you guys want to help her, but I hope not to the point where she rules world with us ending like Drakken.
4)If after Evelin inevitable betrayal SRA repeal crush and burns, it's preferable for us stay from this issue as far as possible. Actually Doom is the one whom it will hurt the most, since he is pro-super for PR sake. Shego pro super as life position, and she operated under SRA for years. For her it will be disappointment in sense that she did not manage to increase her influence, not some actual threat. May be she will even take our example and proclaim independence of her territory.
Overall I prefer if we focus on magical issues, and let Shego, Doom and Evelin duke out this PR battle between themselves.
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Who's to say that the second dimension Doof has the same heroes as us, complete with the same loyalty values.
WorthyAlchemist?
100% certifiably without-a-doubt mediocre
- Location
- That place...yeah that one
Why should we care about anti-toon laws in LA? We're not part of LA therefore it means nothing to us and we shouldn't do anything about it.
Edit: Doom also recently (successfully) implied we were apathetic towards Super/Cape discrimination and that doesn't exactly look good. The argument that we just look reactionary doesn't hold up if we actually do something about it (that whole insurance thing).
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- Location
- Landland USA
You're making a lot of assumptions there. Still, I agree that it would provide minimal rewards if we supported the repeal of the act. The thing is, though, that if we reached out to Shego with the intention of helping with this, she would be more amenable to creating an alliance with us.
Personally, my headcanon is that some force just yanked them all from a few years after they won, and stuck them together on one world, then pulled some history editing to make ti look like they'd always been unified.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we can always just publicly declare that the SRA will no longer be enforced in Doofania.
It clearly get's across that we are pro-super, but it's also not us poking our nose into another nations business. It gives us a pass on the PR thing, but we aren't obligated to continue helping out the cause.
............
Alternatively, we could use it as a weapon against Doom. Set up a charity event and say that as long as Doom matches our donations, we'll continue to donate more. It'll be a pain in our wallet if Doom commits, but if he does we'll be able to cost him an actual fortune. If he doesn't commit hard enough, then his earlier support seems shady and we seem more legit them him. If he starts matching us and then quits half way through, still cost him money, still make ourselves look better then him.
If this goes right, it weakens Doom, makes Doom look bad, makes us look good, and get's people off of our back about the SRA thing. Cost us some money, sure, but it'll cost Doom a similar amount so that's a win enough in my books.
We also aren't necessarily doing this because we care about the SRA, if you're one of those that don't like the idea of interfering in another nations politics, we are doing it because Doom committed himself to this and we can use it as a weapon against him.
It clearly get's across that we are pro-super, but it's also not us poking our nose into another nations business. It gives us a pass on the PR thing, but we aren't obligated to continue helping out the cause.
............
Alternatively, we could use it as a weapon against Doom. Set up a charity event and say that as long as Doom matches our donations, we'll continue to donate more. It'll be a pain in our wallet if Doom commits, but if he does we'll be able to cost him an actual fortune. If he doesn't commit hard enough, then his earlier support seems shady and we seem more legit them him. If he starts matching us and then quits half way through, still cost him money, still make ourselves look better then him.
If this goes right, it weakens Doom, makes Doom look bad, makes us look good, and get's people off of our back about the SRA thing. Cost us some money, sure, but it'll cost Doom a similar amount so that's a win enough in my books.
We also aren't necessarily doing this because we care about the SRA, if you're one of those that don't like the idea of interfering in another nations politics, we are doing it because Doom committed himself to this and we can use it as a weapon against him.
We are doing nothing about laws here. We are smuggling toons from there, not changing laws or their local representation.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
I mean, that's the goal though?
If all we wanted was to smuggle toons here ... we are done, we can stop, got a system set up, smuggling's as good as it's gonna get.
Yet, seems to me people still wanna mess with and take down Doom.
J.I.M.S
BookWyrm
- Location
- Latveria
I like this idea a lot. Make a musical, do some politics, make fun of Doom. Yes.
Somebody over at the Discord suggested using our influx of toon actors to make mockumentaries about our enemies to combat Doom's stranglehold over Hollywood. We may want better martial before we go with that, however, because this seems like the kinda thing that triggers a serious retaliation.
WorthyAlchemist?
100% certifiably without-a-doubt mediocre
- Location
- That place...yeah that one
That's because there's someone powerful and entrenched there who would actively get in the way of that. We're currently doing our level best to undermine said person. I see no reason why we'd oppose him if we didn't particularly care about what happens in "other countries" (keeping in mind that not a lot of other people actually recognize our sovereignty so the US' business is still kind of our business and is even why we have an FBI agent here).
Or, for that matter, why we pay taxes that oddly enough amount to something equivalent to the taxes formerly paid by all the citizens under our sovereignty. Odd how that works out.
Doom started first with his assasination attempt. Also he clearly don't intend stopping, so in this case our actions justified on something more than just we don't like their laws let's invade them.
I'm not saying 'Mina was right'.
I'm saying that Toffee is a Hypocrite and has become no better then those who once wronged him and his People.
Toffee specifically. Not all Monsters.
J.I.M.S
BookWyrm
- Location
- Latveria
A. Cartoon. Musical. AHAHAHAHAHA!
I like the idea of making use of the toons in Doofainia, very smart and it could double as finding some new units if we find anyone good but outta luck. I think Russ specifically would have a blast directing them. Punching Doom and advocating for a return to the Golden Age. It may catch Wendy Wower's attention if it somehow appeals to kids enough.
I honestly take that as we are a tributary Country/state of the united states. We pay them money and they 'protect' us. (Also known as not invade us).
WorthyAlchemist?
100% certifiably without-a-doubt mediocre
- Location
- That place...yeah that one
Doom was trying to intimidate us because we were being friendly with and actively addressing the discrimination of toons. One response to this would have been to remain silent on the subject of toons and not drawn the ire of Doom, a nearby power we could have theoretically dealt with later. Instead, we doubled down on our position and then started helping out with the railroad (something we really didn't have to do). It seems pretty obvious that we care about what happens in LA even if it doesn't affect laws in Doofania (what everyone else calls Dansville).
I feel like a few of the people here have actually fallen into the trap of thinking that we're a real foreign power.
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Yeah, this is more like comedy shadowrun at this point in time, with half the corporate powers running apocalypse plots.
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The second dimension does rule the tri-state area with a micromanage iron fist instead of our layback approach though. Also the second dimension may have a civil open war in US instead of the shadow war we have here. Doof there may even ally with Syndrom and Doom or something.
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- Location
- England
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I love it. I vote for this when the possibility arises.