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For me when it comes to the time to actually start making moves against Doom the first thing we should do, once we have a free Martial action, is have Khan go after him

Between the +83 we currently get and the -10 to the actions DC we have a good chance of doing some serious damage to him
TimEd said:
Also, Doom isnt really worthy of Doof doing anything more than weakening him.

I say we asist the Government in taking him down (when they can take him down) by providing the muscle through Intrigue (evidence) and Martial (for taking down his bots).
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Eh I'm much more interested in taking his territory for ourselves than letting the government have it and he's probably very low down on their list of priorities
 
Looking back at the last update I just realized that we have the world's greatest ninja obstacle course. All we have to do to get these chucklenuts up to snuff is tell them to keep trying to infiltrate our office without setting off a single trap and without being seen or heard. And Bam! Master ninjas.
 
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bigking321 said:
At the moment we are just reacting to a bunch of stuff and getting ready for the auction with Xanatos.

Doom is still messing with us and getting rid of his intrigue hero helps mitigate him.

And hawks just self centered and greedy. We might get him to join us but he wouldn't be the slightest bit loyal and would probably betray us unless we put a lot of effort into him.

Getting him legitimately arrested makes Doom look bad as well.
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The trick is, getting Hawk arrested just inconveniences Doom for a while. Beating Doom means we need a plan. Like, say, learning all his secret weaknesses by suborning his spymaster! I'm not proposing to recruit him for us, I'm proposing to make him a double agent, in other words.
 
I'm just saying, Robot Hawk could get us evidence pretty trivially and tell us who a lot of the other advisors are.

Get literally everyone thrown in jail.

Black.Horus said:
How about we send Technor to make a massive power fallout in L.A by Assault a Rival Action? Right now our problem are Doom and ENCOM. Both of them were situated in L.A and causing a power fallout will hinder them both for quite a while in everything they do if we managed to make enough damage to the powerline.
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Not gonna lie, that sounds fun. If we didn't have a million learning actions to do I'd be tempted, if only because I think Technor would have a fun time.

TimEd said:
Also, Doom isnt really worthy of Doof doing anything more than weakening him.
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He's attempting a genocide, and if that wasn't enough he's looking us in the eye and trying to mess with us right to our face.

Doof is absolutely petty enough to try and take someone down over that, letting that go unanswered makes people think they can get away with messing with, and, most importantly, people want to dedicate actions solely to safeguard our rep and hurt his image.

If he's going to step to us and make us waste actions on him, we might as well win instead of just waiting for the universe to finish him off for us, because, you know, it might not. It might just not happen. If we wait for someone to finish him off, there's a chance that no one who can will try.
 
Black.Horus said:
How about we send Technor to make a massive power fallout in L.A by Assault a Rival Action? Right now our problem are Doom and ENCOM. Both of them were situated in L.A and causing a power fallout will hinder them both for quite a while in everything they do if we managed to make enough damage to the powerline.
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Assault a rival actions are very risky.

We could completely succeed but if they discover it was us it opens us up for reputation loss and reprisals

Undercutting them and investigating them are more or less fine but direct attacks kick us up to a whole different level of trouble.

I'd consider them a last resort.

As to doom specifically, once we get some breathing room using our actions to investigate that area will probably turn up judge dooms guilt and reveal him as a genocidal toon.

We play our cards right he gets arrested and executed using the same policies he put in himself. Followed by us supporting a new mayor that's a ally with us...

...maybe even a toon for maximum irony.
 
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bigking321 said:
Assault a rival actions are very risky.

We could completely succeed but if they discover it was us it opens us up for reputation loss and reprisals

Undercutting them and investigating them are more or less fine but direct attacks kick us up to a whole different level of trouble.

I'd consider them a last resort.

As to doom specifically, once we get some breathing room using our actions to investigate that area will probably turn up judge dooms guilt and reveal him as a genocidal toon.

We play our cards right he gets arrested and executed using the same policies he put in himself. Followed buy us supporting a new mayor that allies with us...

...maybe even a toon for maximum irony.
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The big thing is, to do that we should probably be turning his spymaster to reveal information to us, not outing the spymaster.

Because if we're planning to beat him by revealing his secrets, it'll help if we've suborned people with access to (some of) his secrets.
 
Oh goodness. Tobe that delightful ball of vengeance. Crap. Gonna needa watch Pucca for the first time in 10-15 years now.

... wonder if they operate by toon logic or not.
 
Simon_Jester said:
The big thing is, to do that we should probably be turning his spymaster to reveal information to us, not outing the spymaster.

Because if we're planning to beat him by revealing his secrets, it'll help if we've suborned people with access to (some of) his secrets.
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True enough. It's certainly worth discussing.

I personally just don't like hawk and would enjoy getting him arrested.

I wouldn't vote against a plan because of it though.
 
Honestly I'd say Wing the Hawk so he's distracted with False info, until we get around to Doppelganger Bodies and AI, and then replace him so we can spy on Doom. The guy is Doom's spymaster and fucking with our turf. I'd rather he be fed false info now then left unchecked until we have the Doppelganger Research done.
 
TimEd said:
Ehhh. Maybe I'd go for taking over his assets, but Doof already has more territory than he knows what to do with.

Maybe we could trade the territory to Shego so we can finally rule the tristate area.
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It's important to consider what Doom's territory actually consists of

That being a major port city, the main producer of entertainment for the country and basically being the Toon Mecca

That's definitely worth owning
 
King Arthur said:
He's attempting a genocide, and if that wasn't enough he's looking us in the eye and trying to mess with us right to our face.

Doof is absolutely petty enough to try and take someone down over that, letting that go unanswered makes people think they can get away with messing with, and, most importantly, people want to dedicate actions solely to safeguard our rep and hurt his image.

If he's going to step to us and make us waste actions on him, we might as well win instead of just waiting for the universe to finish him off for us, because, you know, it might not. It might just not happen. If we wait for someone to finish him off, there's a chance that no one who can will try.
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Its genocide, but the reasons for that being our hot button issue are fairly tenuous. We'd certainly like to feed the man to his own anus but making it your reason for existence, what we are willing to go to war for, is one hell of a step. He's a walking, very local, atrocity half a country away. We're trying to capitalize on it to varying degrees (limited because of a lack of common border, though perhaps we could regime change and put a key toon on the throne who may remain indebted) but ultimately Heinz is doing this because he has to be opposing someone.

The world is going to hell in a thousand ways, I can barely imagine the number dying in the Tempest Domain or the Toxic Jungle periphery, and many other areas are bottles of nitroglycerin waiting to go off.

Realistically, unless we are planning on putting Goofy or someone on the throne instead, Doom is a priority but not the priority. Just one more asshat making the world worse.
 
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jonasquinn said:
It's important to consider what Doom's territory actually consists of

That being a major port city, the main producer of entertainment for the country and basically being the Toon Mecca

That's definitely worth owning
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The hard part would be keeping that territory though due to far from our main area and surrounded by Yokai.
 
Made in Heaven said:
"Uh, Boss?" Binggure said hesitantly. "I don't think ninja magic is real. It's just in those cartoons you watch."

"They are not cartoons! They are art! And what are you talking about? Jumong is a shaman!"

"Well yeah." Jumong admitted, waving his skull staff around. "But that's not ninja magic. Just regular magic."
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Oh we are DEFINITELY sending these guys to investigate Norrisville if you guys ever finally buy out McFist so we have an in-game reason to check out that area.

I do wonder what happened to the NinjaNomicon in this timeline though.
jonasquinn said:
They're from Pucca, as for what Pucca is...

I have no way of explaining it
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That reminds me! I need to watch that season 3 that premiered on Netflix last December. Yeah, the show was apparently revived.
 
RookDeSuit said:
It would be if the Nomicon didn't have requirements for it's users, and can enforce bans.
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Yeah, we can still study the thing as a magic artifact though, assuming it hasn't been destroyed or taken by someone too dangerous). We could study that, the Tengu, artifacts from the Sorcerer and Sorceress, and much more.

If the divergence happened before Randy absorbed the Tengu, we could also still possibly find a way to absorb or capture its fire powers for ourselves.
 
LazyDoritOverlrd said:
I have two ways to deal with the guy
Number one, DIP him. He's a toon he's the genocide type of evil. Just kill him.
Number two, expose him for the Rodger rabbit murders. In all likelihood he probably kept the Will from the movie. As well as trophies from his kills, it's a thing Killers do and I'm positive he has some lying around somewhere.

But beyond that I really do think we should get goofy's loyalty up so we can help him with that "dream goddess" or whatever are good friend's hallucination in the desert told us about. Because that cookies gotten me nervous.
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Wait, the Dream Goddess thing is about Goofy? I thought it was about Russ, since he's practically marinated in secrecy and we did discover one of them recently.
 
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