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I mean, we could just wave it off and say 'WE LITERALLY HAVE EVIL IN THE NAME. WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT US TO SUPPORT SUPERHEROES?'
Not that it would be a good idea, just sayin'.
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Not that it would be a good idea, just sayin'.
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
Sure, but ENCOM just made a major stride in terms of tech dominance again. Unless we plan to concede the field to them, completing an action with a reward of "increased technological edge" does give us a notable benefit.
I'm perfectly happy to have Khan supply intelligence and Felldrake supply enough intelligence to not get his host killed. The social security number is another matter, and I'm not sure if we could rely on the magic we used to get cursed artifacts through customs to get Khan out of the country.
Though if we could get Khan into any country in the world without papers, it would be Mongolia.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
It's racism 203. Not quite 101 or even 201, it's not the first class on racism, there are more basic tools in the tool box, but it's pretty early on and well before the more advanced tricks.
If actual progress is being made to help a marginalized community that you hate and public opinion isn't at a place where you can just "minority X sucks", you play the "one issue at a time card."
"How dare you help X insttead of Y when Y is so much worse off, how can you ignore Issue Y, all the injustice and help needed there, when Issue X honestly isn't that bad, you monster."
Doom's next ploy will be to alter/make up some shady statistics showing how our efforts to help Toons are really, secretly, hurting them. If he can find the angle/evidence for it, he'll try to frame us as being the real racist against Toon's.
Really, I'm amazed he hasn't pointed at famous actor Goofy working as a Janitor and saying something along the lines of "see, in Danville even the most well regarded of Toons can aspite, at most, to being a Janitor. He claims to be pro-Toon, but not a single a Toon in Danville has any position of real power (which is, on paper, true, Goofy is a janitor, Max is an intern, Dennis is technically a grunt I think, and Von Drake is ... a generic scholar or something? None of these are their real jobs, they have way more influence then that and I presume we pay them very well, but I think that's what we officially hired them all for.)
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It depends on how you look at it. It is true we have been doing a lot of actions to publicly support toons and help them out meanwhile we have not done anything real big to help people sense turn one with fixing the food situation. So it is easy for people looking from the outside to see us helping toons at the expense of everyone else. And there have been some options to do so like the greenvil energy campaign. But in the end it is important to remember this is propaganda not the objective truth. Doom just found a way to attack our reputation and did it quite well.
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Yeah, I was mostly trying to keep people calm, so we don't go "do any action that raises popular support in a panic" and instead try to take things more slowly.
Whatever do you mean about panicking?
I haven't been thinking about ways to drop an asteroid on Earth in response to this! Nope! Nosiree!
I really don't thing we should be doing that Quest as a spur of the moment thing nor that we should have our only Occult hero not as powerful as she could be before we send them off
Plus one of the few advantages of delaying Chicken Itza is having our Occul hero available for Occult actions
I mean Goofy is a janitor and Max is an intern but Dennis is a member of the military, presumably a fairly high ranking one considering his relationship with Khan and the fact we interact with him a lot, Von Drake is a high ranking researcher and Wile E. is seemingly a high ranking ACME executive that maintained his position in the merger
To be fair that person was Ludo
AProcrastinator
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I'd disagree from a few angles with rejoining the government.
From a gameplay perspective, we have so many maluses against people trying to invade us or take action against us that, while superheroes aren't not a concern, they aren't anything worth packing up our stuff and running to the government over.
From a character perspective, conquering the Tri-State area has been Doctor Doofenschmirtz's dream forever, and it's a dream he still hasn't technically accomplished. Any attacks by superheroes are effectively just obstacles to his true next goal - and potentially, the rest of the world in time after. Plus, considering how much Doof has been lamenting the loss of Perry, and the interlude we just had about the importance of a nemesis to an evildoer, a stray superhero attack or two might actually be good for Doof.
From a narrative perspective, why ask the US government for help when we could launch the entire Tri-State area into the stratosphere, ruling from the skies themselves?!?!?!
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It's all just reactions to the info drop.
By the time we get to seeing our own options and officially making a plan practicality should be firmly in control...
... or maybe doing whatever seems more fun and entertaining.
Still. Not panic in any case.
Regarding Judge Doom. Instead of salvaging our reputation how about we wrecked his instead? We have expose Hawk in intrigue action and succeeding it should land him in political scandal that would make his Diplo Hero run around doing damage control. Leaving our Diplo action free to expand.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Travisplo
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Well, we can always point out that we have reasons for focusing on Toons in whatever action we take next. For example, they don't have Secret Identities. They can't hide themselves all that well and pretend to not be Toons. Supers can. And there was no one advocating for Toons, whereas there were some advocating for Supers. Just some possibly responses.
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
@jonasquinn, this is not a spur of the moment thing, I replied to one of your posts like an hour ago talking about how I very much wanted to keep pursuing the magical temple questline and if we're delaying Chicken Itza for a turn there is only one way to do that. As far as I'm concerned, the more magic we can learn before the auction, the better, and I'm ultimately willing to accept no-hero rolling for Alchemy a few times in lieu of any actually low-DC options.
With three turns to try, the odds would be in our favor to unlock Alchemy before the auction started. There is the question of what a critfail would do, but I doubt it would kill Doof or anything, so it's probably fiiine.
(Also, talking about how Janna's not as powerful as she could be? A quest with her and Khan on it gets a Martial bonus of 97. And Khan lowers all of the DCs by 10. They'll make do.)
AProcrastinator
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also if doof had power armor it'd be super cool
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Please, how could anyone believe we hate supers when we're obviously dating Shego? Doom is clearly just a jealous bachelor.
More actionably, if we want to give him a hard time, exposing Hawk would both seriously hurt his intel actions and his PR. Fight fire with fire, and make them spend actions patching things up; Doom, especially, is far more reliant on public opinion than we are.
More actionably, if we want to give him a hard time, exposing Hawk would both seriously hurt his intel actions and his PR. Fight fire with fire, and make them spend actions patching things up; Doom, especially, is far more reliant on public opinion than we are.
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Yahh, that totally wasn't my main reason for poiting out the superhero threat. Not at all.
Not at all.
KitRougard
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Total of effective +107 =In Direct Combat Situations=
Otherwise it's total effective +74, still BRICK SOLID
Otherwise it's total effective +74, still BRICK SOLID
Yeah, been awhile since I sat down to do any writing, and wanted to get it all done at once instead of having it hanging over my head forever. Might go back and fix it up at some point, but have other projects I need to focus on first.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
This is all true to an extent, but it still shifts the conversation. The conversation shifted from Doof helping Toons being a good thing, to Doof is abandoning Super's in their time of need, to us arguing against and defending ourselves from the accusations of someone else when most people have probably only heard the initial accusation (especially when you take into the account that ENCOM probably hates us and so would back Doom up and they basically are the internet, and Judge Doom is Hollywood, so the two of them working together are a vast majority of the media), and even if we succeed then all we've done is show that there's new markets opening up for Toons allowing them success and wealth and influence, the American Dream, and that Toons are doing well now, so clearly all of the Toon problems are now fixed forever and so people can go back to apathetically doing nothing about it.
Racism is a tough beast to fight.
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Hmmm. Shouldn't Max's loyalty actually be 10, not 30 at the moment? Although that should be 15 next turn as the 'worst trip ever' malus decays.
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I think you could get away with just adding a line break, so there's a separation between views.