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mangawriter77 said:
-[ ] [Intrigue] Seed corporate sleeper agents (Tobe)
--[ ] Infiltrate themselves into Sycorax
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I almost completely agree with your plan, but... you want Tobe and his ninjas to infiltrate themselves.

I have concerns about them blending in.

mangawriter77 said:
-Only thing we can really do with Max that's useful
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Well that's a bit unfair. I don't disagree with the action choice but the others have some value as well.
 
If we hire Fred and Go Go Tomago would we be able to heroball them with Wasabi? Or would we need to get Honeylemon and find Hiro if he's still alive?
 
Magpy said:
If we hire Fred and Go Go Tomago would we be able to heroball them with Wasabi? Or would we need to get Honeylemon and find Hiro if he's still alive?
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My guess would be you just need a minimum of 3 people with some compatibility to make a heroball so they would probably be fine.

Especially since they were the QMs go to example of a ready made group to heroball...

And Hiro is definitely alive. He was doing robot fights in sanfran.
 
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@Arathnorn

2 questions about the retreat
  1. If its a regular fail can we try again or have to wait for the cooldown?
  2. If we succeed, will we know and can pick the personals before the full turn results, so potentially personals from the turn could synergize with personals from the retreat?
 
Angelform said:
Infiltrate isn't 'blending in'. Infiltrate is being hired as a hero unit by the target and working for them until extracted.
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I mean, I kinda assume it depends on the specifics. We got an example of what an infiltrate looks like just last turn: We didn't hire Ralph, he disguised himself as one of our existing employees and pulled an impersonation. Mez is probably gonna be sulking around and hypnotizing people, Tobe is probably gonna use his array of ninjas to gather info, ETC.
 
Angelform said:
Infiltrate isn't 'blending in'. Infiltrate is being hired as a hero unit by the target and working for them until extracted.
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Tier 2 Infiltration simply is we have access to information on the hero list, normally by giving them a hero. It is possible to have if your hero is not physically present; with them either subverting existing heroes, setting up a doppleganger, tricking them or just having an incredibly good spy network.

For Mez infiltrating Sycorax she could simply be hypnotising a hero to give her information on the regular, while Russ could be subverting Toons in LA to get the information using his mastery of comedic timing. Xanatos had tier 2 Infiltration just by getting Doof to gab to him on the regular, while Blot got to Tier 3 just by having a Toon that looks like a Councilor sneak into the meetings.
 
Penguinbowler said:
Tier 2 Infiltration simply is we have access to information on the hero list, normally by giving them a hero. It is possible to have if your hero is not physically present; with them either subverting existing heroes, setting up a doppleganger, tricking them or just having an incredibly good spy network.

For Mez infiltrating Sycorax she could simply be hypnotising a hero to give her information on the regular, while Russ could be subverting Toons in LA to get the information using his mastery of comedic timing. Xanatos had tier 2 Infiltration just by getting Doof to gab to him on the regular, while Blot got to Tier 3 just by having a Toon that looks like a Councilor sneak into the meetings.
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Also, at this point, this is Tier 1, not Tier 2, which isn't even info known to hero units, just work-a-day employee stuff that isn't known to the general public.
 
Nystical said:
--[] [Diplomacy] Establish the Titans Wrestling Federation (Kermit)

--[] [Stewardship] Restore Zootopia Climate Systems (Roddy)
--[] [Stewardship] Develop Civilian AI (Alan)
--[] [Stewardship -> Monogram] Sponsor SPLIT/SECOND
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Overall, this looks like a good plan!

We didn't plan this out ahead of time because we weren't thinking that both options would be taken in the same turn, but I felt it necessary to warn you of not only a lack of synergy, but a bit of a negative one if you were to release SPLIT/SECOND and titan wrestling on the same turn. Trying to promote two major televised sporting events in the same turn will probably have them end up eating into each other's demand and result in a bit of a net loss.
 
Made in Heaven said:
Overall, this looks like a good plan!

We didn't plan this out ahead of time because we weren't thinking that both options would be taken in the same turn, but I felt it necessary to warn you of not only a lack of synergy, but a bit of a negative one if you were to release SPLIT/SECOND and titan wrestling on the same turn. Trying to promote two major televised sporting events in the same turn will probably have them end up eating into each other's demand and result in a bit of a net loss.
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I think with this in mind, we should maybe do the Other-Dimension-Inator. Yes, we'd lose the loyalty bonus, but we keep on getting told we should get it done, so… why not?
 
Made in Heaven said:
We didn't plan this out ahead of time because we weren't thinking that both options would be taken in the same turn, but I felt it necessary to warn you of not only a lack of synergy, but a bit of a negative one if you were to release SPLIT/SECOND and titan wrestling on the same turn. Trying to promote two major televised sporting events in the same turn will probably have them end up eating into each other's demand and result in a bit of a net loss.
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I say Titans Wrestling is the better immediate option. 4 Money right now and +1 Income vs +2 Income and a chance to not go off. Monogram has a 14% chance to fail I think.
 
Things we could put NOWCA on:

[ ] Research extradimensional tech, DC 60, entire worlds (plural) of opportunity.

[ ] Hold a Powerline concert, DC90, for 3 funds.
[ ] Research the market, DC 90, for info on the economic situation.
[ ] Establish a Bakaemono Supply Chain, DC 90, for 2 income and robotics progress.
[ ] Research Silphium, DC 90, for Food and Agriculture progress.
 
We also could toss mono to the govement for a turn. might help doofs " no we are not the usa" mindset a bit doing that willingly?
 
I forgot to remind you guys earlier, but since the hero cards are tied to AI research, doing another AI action would max out your random drops from 5 to 6. No more than that, though I might do a special card to celebrate the achivement.
 
KRISF said:
We also could toss mono to the govement for a turn. might help doofs " no we are not the usa" mindset a bit doing that willingly?
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If we do government collab and wrestling, it might warrant swapping Kermit and Monogram. Winston/Sinatron dramatically Boost Monograms Diplo to the 80s after XP, while Kermit will be in the 80s by himself.
 
Made in Heaven said:
Overall, this looks like a good plan!

We didn't plan this out ahead of time because we weren't thinking that both options would be taken in the same turn, but I felt it necessary to warn you of not only a lack of synergy, but a bit of a negative one if you were to release SPLIT/SECOND and titan wrestling on the same turn. Trying to promote two major televised sporting events in the same turn will probably have them end up eating into each other's demand and result in a bit of a net loss.
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Thanks for the heads up!

Guess Monogram is going to do the retreat. Which means we'll probably be visiting Vegas. Who knows, maybe we could have some of our hero units visit Daffy and Bugs' casino!

Angelform said:
[ ] Research extradimensional tech, DC 60, entire worlds (plural) of opportunity.

[ ] Hold a Powerline concert, DC90, for 3 funds.
[ ] Research the market, DC 90, for info on the economic situation.
[ ] Establish a Bakaemono Supply Chain, DC 90, for 2 income and robotics progress.
[ ] Research Silphium, DC 90, for Food and Agriculture progress.
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ODI I'd rather do next turn with a learning unit.
Powerline might fall too close to being mass media so maybe not. Not as bad as S/S Titans but still.
Research the market and Bakemono supply chain maybe, but Monogram has a bonus of 55 for stewardship which is kind of meh for hitting those stewardship options right now.

Out of all of these options, I'd rather that Monogram just does the retreat or does the Silphium research.

Edit: Doing retreat for now and changed Moseby personal to interact with toons for the potential synergy of Russ doing the same to unwind.

[] Plan: Star Hunt Part Two - v4

-[] National Actions:
--[] [Martial] Form a black ops group (Technor, Juniper (+10 Duet Act), Gomez)

--[] [Diplomacy] Guard against hats: Mandate Company Dress Codes (Cruella)
--[] [Diplomacy] Establish the Titans Wrestling Federation (Kermit)

--[] [Stewardship] Restore Zootopia Climate Systems (Roddy)
--[] [Stewardship] Develop Civilian AI (Alan)
---[] Soup Kitchen Volunteering PR Stunt
--[] [Stewardship -> Monogram] Host a company retreat

--[] [Intrigue] Seed corporate sleeper agents (Active Infiltration): Sycorax (Mezmerella)
--[] [Intrigue -> Nemesis Action] Reclaim the Odd Object (Agent Russ)

--[] [Learning] Greco-Roman Terraforming (Lizzy)
--[] [Learning] Research Large Carnivore Domestication (Jumba)

--[] [Occult] Repair the Avatar of Felldrake (Janna)
--[] [Occult] Summon Celena the Shy (Tom)

--[] [Corporate Action] Establish a Corporate Court (Funds)

-[] Personal Actions:
--[] Doof:
---[] Spend Time With Norm
---[] Chat with the Bossman (Kitsune)
---[] Chat with the Bossman (Ludivine)
---[] Throw an Action in the Trash
----[] Research Flubber Weather Modification
----[] Research Flubber Antigravity
----[] Research Flubber Power
----[] Steal nuclear launch codes

--[] Council
---[] [Coyote] (Look through subsidiary records)
---[] [Goofy] (Look into Pete)
---[] [Janus] (Finish incubating Tech E. Coyote)
---[] [Mirage] (Recruit at an SFIT Career Fair)
---[] [Ludivine] (Instruct your Coworkers: Doof)
---[] [Malifishmirtz] (Watch El Matador de Amor)

--[] Activate Inator
--[] Genghis Khan (Study history)
--[] Norm (Spend Time With Father)
--[] Dennis (Train with Maui Mallard)
--[] Marco (Train with Macbeth)
--[] Kitsune (Find Someone to Talk To)
--[] Max (Hang out with Agent Russ)
--[] Wasabi (Obsessively Check San Fransokyo Cape News)
--[] Marion Moseby (Interact with the Toons)
--[] Tobe (Train ''''''your ninja'''''' some more)
--[] Assign an Item
---[] Ruby Wings: Cruella
 
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Nystical said:
@Arathnorn

2 questions about the retreat
  1. If its a regular fail can we try again or have to wait for the cooldown?
  2. If we succeed, will we know and can pick the personals before the full turn results, so potentially personals from the turn could synergize with personals from the retreat?
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Yes, as always for failures.

We'll probably roll them in if it makes sense, yeah. That said just be aware that if you want a short, quiet turn like many people have asked for, asking us for a multipart 'heres what every single hero unit is spending their vacation on' interlude as is customary probably runs counter to that goal.
 
Arathnorn said:
Yes, as always for failures.

We'll probably roll them in if it makes sense, yeah. That said just be aware that if you want a short, quiet turn like many people have asked for, asking us for a multipart 'heres what every single hero unit is spending their vacation on' interlude as is customary probably runs counter to that goal.
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Thanks for the answer.

I get that, I don't exactly mind the long turns, I mainly asked because I wanted for there to be the potential that if Moseby does his "introduction to the Toons" personal now, it could synergize with Russ's "hang out with the toons" personal.

I'm going to make that change now in the v4 plan
 
Angelform said:
Any reason beyond the thematic? Crit successes are never worth the effort of trying to arrange and we have an awful lot of research we need to do.
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It's not just thematic. Remember, who we assign to the action has serious narrative impact on how the result is actually determined.

A geneticist succeeding on a genetics action is going to give a different result from an engineer succeeding on a genetics action, even if it's the same end roll.
 
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