That depends on if the federal government has actions. If they do not then it is just a waiting game of when the facade crumbles. But, if the Feds have their own actions and plans then they could make a comeback. As an example depending on how disastrous the gala is for Syndrome I could see the feds biting back a few bits of power in his territory. Like using the failure of the Omnibots to bring back regular police under government control. There are also several bits of territory that the Fed could reclaim if given the opportunity. Hawaii sticks out as one. Depending on how and when the Galactic Federation leaves Hawaii I could see the Fed taking back control over it. Same with the BnL wasteland. They also could act as a relatively neutral power between the Kings, being able to make deals with them all and play them off each other.

It would be hard no doubt but if the Fed are allowed to take actions they have cards to play in this game of kings.
I would be surprised if the feds can make rolls, given we've seen mystery characters making rolls, the "???" dude/s, but no rolls marked for the federal government. But yeah, otherwise, I agree. The Feds are going to try and grab back every bit of power they can.

I don't want America to die yet...I Already play VIctoria Falls...I WANT IT TO LIVE!!
Remember, while we might be buddy buddy with them right now, we're still a sovereign nation parked on territory that belonged to the government. The feds haven't forgot, and neither should we. The first chace they get, they'll be trying to take our territory.

Strictly speaking, we don't need to win: We just need to not lose. We can be in a whole world of warlords and, so long as none of the ones with existential threats as their endgame agendas survive, we can sorta work with that. Half the players don't even have complete world dominion as their win condition.

The final system doesn't have to be a living hell for the populace.
No need to tell me dude. I've been advocating for an alliance with the less reprehensible kings (Xanatos, Shere Khan, and a few others) for a while now. Bonus is, if we can wrangle it, there's the possibility of forming a viable successor to the federal government.
 
With Doom, his lose condition is probably being outed as a toon outright. The amount of shit the man would have to wade through considering what he's done to his part of California would be monolithic. His life would be a special type of hell for a long, long time.

He gets publicly outed, while he still is a player he would be stuck dealing with his own problems for so much of the time that he would barely be a threat.
 
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I think Doom should be our first priority. After that - either Toffee based on his relatively loose hold on his territory, or Syndrome.
Actually i think our first priority is going all in on the person who's taking over our local underground, all the ??? actions in the underworld of Doofania are making me worried that a new and/or intrigue focused King is plotting a coup.

Also we should probably do the Hawaii quest after this, we're reaching the point where people without an Inator can find it now.
 
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Actually i think our first priority is going all in on the person who's taking over our local underground, all the ??? actions in the underworld of Doofania are making me worried that a new and/or intrigue focused King is plotting a coup.

Also we should probably do the Hawaii quest after this, we're reaching the point where people without an Inator can find it now.
I doubt it's a new king, but yes, that is pressing. We've got our best man on the case.

Can I get a source on us reaching the point where people without an Inator can find it now?
 
That depends on if the federal government has actions. If they do not then it is just a waiting game of when the facade crumbles. But, if the Feds have their own actions and plans then they could make a comeback. As an example depending on how disastrous the gala is for Syndrome I could see the feds biting back a few bits of power in his territory. Like using the failure of the Omnibots to bring back regular police under government control. There are also several bits of territory that the Fed could reclaim if given the opportunity. Hawaii sticks out as one. Depending on how and when the Galactic Federation leaves Hawaii I could see the Fed taking back control over it. Same with the BnL wasteland. They also could act as a relatively neutral power between the Kings, being able to make deals with them all and play them off each other.

It would be hard no doubt but if the Fed are allowed to take actions they have cards to play in this game of kings.
Ehh, there are several problems with that

1) The governments authority is extremely low right now, as shown by the fact that Doof declared himself the independent ruler of two and a half states and they just let it happen
2) Any authority the government still actually has is seemingly completely invested in maintaining the various Masquerades
3) Basically all the megacorporations will have spies and agents in the government, especially the likes of Xanatos and Syndrome
4) The idea that if anyone was going to nab some of Syndromes land it would be the government as opposed to another King is laughable
5) The government has been telling everyone that Hawaii was destroyed in an enormous explosion, the public finding out that they'd been lied to would cause people to have even less trust in them and the BnL Wasteland is just that, an inhospitable wasteland that I highly doubt that they have the means to fix without the help of a King, in which case that King would basically run it
One way we can help the United States government it's to help them clean up the BNL wasteland. Come to an agreement to split the resources that we gain 50 50, new technology as well.

The US gains power, reclaims the American bread basket, and gains of crap ton of resources, and have access to new technology.
We improve our Grevile image, improve relations with the government and the people, gain a crap ton of resources, and gain access to brand new technology.
It's a win-win. Not to mention he'll make Ross like a lot more.
I don't really see how just giving them the land helps us

It's almost inevitable that another King would swoop on and take it, specifically Xanatos who is for all purposes an upstanding businessman that could easily help set up new communities in the reclaimed land, shares a border with it and undoubtedly has a lot of friends in the government
Can I get a source on us reaching the point where people without an Inator can find it now?
I don't know if we're coming up on that immediately but it's bound to be coming up soon and it's something we're inevitably going to have to do eventually so we might as well do it while we have no immediately pressing Intrigue actions to assign Russ to

Plus arguably the best way we can follow up on messing with Syndrome is by using this time to investigate the cape scene, which is an Intrigue action we can do pretty well on with just Monogram
 
So i think ENCOM might take a hit for this and Syndrome might even go to war with them as he will blame someone for this
 
Xanatos, Toffee, and Khan hanging out together, either a new shadow war will be starting soon, or a shadowy world conquest plan
Either way, no matter what happens, there will be requests for people to get some damm LAMPS! HOW IS AN EVIL GENIUS SUPPOSED TO DO ANY EVIL-ING IF THEY KEEP STUBBING THEIR TOES BECAUSE IT IS SO DARN DARK!


So i think ENCOM might take a hit for this and Syndrome might even go to war with them as he will blame someone for this
I think that Syndrome is likely to conclude that there is no strong reason to suspect ENCOM over the possibility of anyone else just because their OS was used as the weapon. It's... a really bad OS.
 
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y'know Void might be fine working for Shego. Like, she's a villain but she's not like most of the others and understands the value of happy and motivated employees.

I doubt she has any trouble finding work that's genuinely above board, not like she didn't do that for Hego too.

Also I hope we can ally, while the rivalry is fun...the more this goes on the more I absolutely loathe the rest of these bastards and want to take them down.
 
No need to tell me dude. I've been advocating for an alliance with the less reprehensible kings (Xanatos, Shere Khan, and a few others) for a while now. Bonus is, if we can wrangle it, there's the possibility of forming a viable successor to the federal government.
I have to ask:
  1. Of all of our current assets, what would you be willing to 'put on the market' buy influence among the other kings? At the cost of losing special advantage by keeping it close to the vest.
  2. What would you be willing to buy that any of the other kings would actually be willing to part with?

Pretty much any relationship is based around mutual advantage and we need to be able to market our advantage if we are going to keep one. We did a one off thing with Shego and are a convenient outlet for her brother, and we are a comparatively harmless neighbor that is securing one of her borders, but we'll need more on that front. With other, more distant, kings we'll need a lot more.
 
At a certain point, the US government will fall and we will outgrow Russ.

I see 4 outcomes.

We either made him very loyal somehow, and he stays.
He sees us as the best option in a basket of bad options...
Neutral, he leaves.
We pissed him off majorly somehow, he plots revenge.
 
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y'know Void might be fine working for Shego. Like, she's a villain but she's not like most of the others and understands the value of happy and motivated employees.
Villainy is kind of a spectrum. A lot of a villain's work, if they want to be successful, has to be the same as any other ruler's. That means doing things that help at least some people.
So we should start making new technologies that only we can make and hope the other Kings would be interested in buying from us.
Technologies, or services. It doesn't have to be mad science, though we have a lot of that.

It also doesn't have to be something only we can make, just something that its not worth it for other people to pursue as long as we are putting it on the informal king's market.
At a certain point, the US government will fall and we will outgrow Russ.

I see 3 outcomes.

We either made him very loyal somehow, and he stays.
He leaves.
We pissed him off majorly somehow, he plots revenge.
Or he becomes another player, and one that we are on good terms with. He doesn't need to be owned by us for us to profit off of his existence.

The man really likes toons (we are one of the friendliest political blocs to toons) and could do a lot of good in a post-US America. And, hell, maybe he will keep a few of its old, better ideals running wherever he ends up. I don't fear this outcome.
 
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You're right, a 4th potential option is that he sees us as the best option in a basket of bad options, but he probably sees Xanatos or Toffee as preferable, considering they haven't outright claimed authority, and he might not have dirt on them.
 
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I have to ask:
  1. Of all of our current assets, what would you be willing to 'put on the market' buy influence among the other kings? At the cost of losing special advantage by keeping it close to the vest.
  2. What would you be willing to buy that any of the other kings would actually be willing to part with?

Pretty much any relationship is based around mutual advantage and we need to be able to market our advantage if we are going to keep one. We did a one off thing with Shego and are a convenient outlet for her brother, and we are a comparatively harmless neighbor that is securing one of her borders, but we'll need more on that front. With other, more distant, kings we'll need a lot more.
  1. Hmm. I don't mind handing out tech much, as long as it's a tier below whatever we're using at the moment. Loaning out Temujin as a beatstick seems good, especially against the more reprehensible Kings. I'm iffy on doing the same with Technor, mostly because he's our best hero unit at the moment.
  2. ...I don't think any of the other Kings have something we need at the moment? All I can think of is paying Xanatos or Toffee to teach us some magic.
 
Shego: I can't believe that Danville's lunatic can do subtle.

Also Shego: We are going to break through the wall and grab anything not nailed down.
Doof: As a distraction?
Shego: No, after the heist.

I hope they take a lot of stuff, otherwise it would be a bit underwhelming.
 
You're right, a 4th potential option is that he sees us as the best option in a basket of bad options, but he probably sees Xanatos or Toffee as preferable, considering they haven't outright claimed authority, and he might not have dirt on them.
I doubt that Russ would find them to be better options than Doof, if only because he knows Doof, can probably outsmart him if he absolutely needs to and is aware that Doof is a much nicer person than you'd expect

Most of which isn't true for the other two
 
Other potential reason for Xanatos gently ushering the other two away:

Having seen through Shego's disguise, he knows Shego is with us, but having made a basic psych profile of all the other major players that may or may not be coming tonight (he recognized us on sight, you might recall), he knows Shego hates us(ish), and the feeling is mutual(ish). He therefore has cottoned on that we are probably going in together on something.

Now a bunch of superpowered villains - say, like those in Shego's territory have shown up unannounced to wreck face. Even if you weren't Xanatos, putting 2 and 2 together ain't hard.

"Hmmm ... do I want to expose Doofenschmirtz and Shego for their crimes, doing nothing to actually stop this attack but allowing the genocidal bigot on stage to save a minimal amount of face, and leaving the two perpetrators' territories wide open for someone like Syndrome to conquer, in revenge...

"...or do I want to knock Syndrome and his power play down a few pegs, potentially buy out his company in the aftermath, and have a favor I can call in with an admittedly likeable man who is much more competent than he seems, is sending someone to open up diplomatic talks with me after the gala, and who apparently knows much more about the secretive and/or the supernatural than he lets on to the world at large?"

"Why, yes, Toffee, some corn malt whiskey sounds delicious! Let's go view the carnage while I subtly steer you and Shere Khan away from making the proper connections!"
 
The main issue with that is that the Centennial ENCOM program doesn't work, no matter how good MCP is he can't control something using a network full of errors that render it completely unusable
MCP was the one who bricked it in the first place:
Somehow, a couple of the more egregious security holes in the main ENCOM system managed to sneak their way into some of your current hardware. Security holes should NOT be able to transfer between OSs like that.
He could very well get an action next turn to un-brick the omnidroids

Edit: then again, we got ENCOM-CENT on a pretty good roll; I'd be dickish to punish us for it(immediately, at least)
 
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Hmmm ... do I want to expose Doofenschmirtz and Shego for their crimes, doing nothing to actually stop this attack but allowing the genocidal bigot on stage to save a minimal amount of face, and leaving the two perpetrators' territories wide open for someone like Syndrome to conquer, in revenge...

In what way would we be "wide open" if anything syndromes territory is wide open and he probably (almost definitely) didnt have the power to take our territory's before we bricked his omnidroids revealing us now would do nothing except piss both us and shego off
 
This is awesome xD

After the heist Syndrome tries to fix his robots
Syndrome: come on come on
OmniDroids: wait a moment for procession of the new protocols until then you can listen to this song*plays Rick n roll while processing*
Syndrome: NOOOO
meanwhile at the Doof's lab the gang studies the chip
Doof: do you guys hear something
gang:Nah
 
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