So i guess considering world situation nowaday we are scrapping this idea. I guess everyone thank Shadowhisker
DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
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So i guess considering world situation nowaday we are scrapping this idea. I guess everyone thank Shadowhisker
So i guess considering world situation nowaday we are scrapping this idea. I guess everyone thank Shadowhisker
He raised a valid point.
Sure Sure, I didnt mean to say anything, Im sorry sorry, just okay i didnt mean anything just please please.
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I do think that when evaluating historical figures we need to differentiate between what they, personally did, and what someone vaguely associated with them did. The Law of contagion doesn't really work when you try to apply it using the reasoning "you are as bad as the worst person you ever willingly associated with."
Thus, for instance, Wernher von Braun can be condemned for his Nazi activities not so much because he voluntarily interacted with men like Hitler, but because:
1) He, himself willingly designed ballistic missiles to indiscriminately bombard London, and
2) He, himself directly got himself involved in factories that ran on concentration.
The things he did are many times more important than the things people he interacted with did.
Or as another example where we'd probably agree that the 'contagion' approach breaks down, Ford Motor Company did a surprising amount of business with the USSR during Stalin's rule. And yet I don't think any of us could claim with a straight face that Henry Ford of all people was a socialist, a socialist sympathizer or pro-Stalin as such.
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This is not to say Walt Disney doesn't have overtly antisemitic acts in his past. I honestly couldn't tell you one way or the other. But I do want to raise a cautionary point that not everyone who did business with the totalitarian regimens of the 1930s did so out of ideological sympathy for the specific beliefs promoted by those regimes, as demonstrated by the people who went on dealing with the Nazis and the Soviets simultaneously right up until the two nations went to war.
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Now with all of that said, I can think of some reasons to be damn sure one should be careful about Robot Walt Disney in a setting like this, given his known managerial style. He might be less likely to go-go-Gadget Machine Gun, but I'd bet on him trying to take over DEI with boardroom maneuvers.
He won't even need to change the acronym, it would just be Disney Evil Incorporated. Would his personality be similar to this though?
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- Philippines
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- He/Him
Sounds like a very risky move there. With a very high DC.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
Obviously we should do the Dr Doom thing and have Android duplicates of ourselves.
Eeeehhhh... Only if they are actually subservient to us and don't get any Ideas like Sinatron did, please.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
Well considering how things went when we made copies of ourselves before, with all the copies being perfectly cooperative, I think we could do it. Wouldn't work for someone like Syndrome mainly because the guy has way too much ego for any duplicate of him to be filling to play second fiddle for long.
If only we didn't have government agents among our employee… and if you go for government its more proper to use reptiloids. We just need to give shape shifting to our dinosaurs.
I woulds like to update Stewardship stat of the 70+ Level to "Could Sell Sand To Saudi Arabia".
Imho this is only going to be possible in Partnership with Xanatos for him to get us personality and memory data.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
We have no real reason to do this, since all it will do is turn Xanatos against us, considering how much he seems to be interested in stabilizing the government. (and no, we will never be able to do this without Xanatos discovering our action)
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Note the complication there.
Copying yourself, as in zapping yourself with a magic duplicator ray that just spontaneously creates multiple people identical to one another, is very different from building a duplicate of yourself, as in physically assembling the machinery and programming the software to create a robot that thinks and moves and acts roughly as you would act.
I'm not sure a bunch of Doofbots would coordinate as well as a bunch of Doofs generated with a duplicator ray.
Would this version of Doof be able to defeat kim possible and Perry teaming up if not in martial then, with everything he has in this quest?
If Doof does make use of robots with sentience than he should treat them like real people or even his children since, technically if he builds them then he is the father, unlike what presumably Syndrome did to his creations.
What are the chances that Doof can ally with Callahan of Zaibatsu?
If Doof does make use of robots with sentience than he should treat them like real people or even his children since, technically if he builds them then he is the father, unlike what presumably Syndrome did to his creations.
What are the chances that Doof can ally with Callahan of Zaibatsu?
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Consider the gap between "be able to defeat" and "would have a good chance of defeating" and "would certainly defeat." Also consider that the return of those two hero figures in an antagonistic relationship with Doof would probably shake up the command structure of his territory- some of our hero units would quit.
How could we possibly know that? We don't have a good picture of what his interests, abilities, and resources are like in this version of the setting.
Luck be a Lady- Doofquest Comic
J.I.M.S
BookWyrm
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- Latveria
Shego, Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, and Mirage in the process of a heist at the Sands Gala. Published by Dalt Wisney Comics™ and four bucks because someone had the sense to actually make it four bucks instead of secretly five big ones with a .99¢. I have a first Luck Be A Lady issue in 9.9 M Mint condition! Been enjoying DoofQuest.
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So that's a yes then, since Doof did technically beat Syndrome, a huge threat that not even Kim and Perry would be able to win against directly, albeit with hero units doing the heavy lifting, and Doof is more competent in this universe, plus Perry's death is somewhat motivating him or something.
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"Ability to beat someone" is not some kind of ranked hierarchy where people with a score of 100 consistently beat people with a score of 99 who in turn beat people with a score of 98. You can't just add up the numbers and get a prediction.
For example, Doof had allies against Syndrome that he would not have against Perry, Kim, or both of them working together.
You can't just treat this like an arithmetic problem where you add ten points for this and deduct five points for that and multiply by two and so on.
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- England
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- He/Him
He never wanted to kill Perry and his death only happened because he didn't see the Self-Destruct button before he bumped into it.
I think this has caused Doof to think his designs and plans through more carefully to avoid it happening again.
Naturally this covered most (possibly all) of the mistakes that caused him to be thwarted in the old days.
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To add to this, Shego's minions defeated him. Yes, the removal of the Omnidroids set the goal open, but it's the supers Shego was tablet to bring to the table that defeated Syndrome. Without her we likely would have stolen the chip and plans, and ended by humiliating him into bricking his droids.
Also, bear with me here, but if Kronoss buyout isn't viable what if we replace the Syndrome robot.... with our own Syndrome robot?*
*Given they can think on their own, and act similar in personality to the original, probably not the best idea unless we can figure out how to modify the personality, but hilarious to think about.
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- Ivory Tower of Education
Shego, Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, and Mirage in the process of a heist at the Sands Gala. Published by Dalt Wisney Comics™ and four bucks because someone had the sense to actually make it four bucks instead of secretly five big ones with a .99¢. I have a first Luck Be A Lady issue in 9.9 M Mint condition! Been enjoying DoofQuest.
It's beautiful. 100/10 can't decide which part is the best part so I'll just say all of it is
weredrago2
"Cowabunga, Shadow the Hedgehog..."
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Fantastic job! I'm not used to seeing the characters in a more realistic style, but it really levels the playing field between all of the disparate character designs. I dig it!
Shego, Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, and Mirage in the process of a heist at the Sands Gala. Published by Dalt Wisney Comics™ and four bucks because someone had the sense to actually make it four bucks instead of secretly five big ones with a .99¢. I have a first Luck Be A Lady issue in 9.9 M Mint condition! Been enjoying DoofQuest.