So. Assuming that we have to use existing heroes for the Council, who would you guys like to see in each one? Was thinking Goofy or Technor for Diplo, Khan for Martial, Mirage for Stewardship, Ludivine for Learning, and...*sigh* the Ninjas for Intrigue. Lastly, Janna for Occult.
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I believe that we have WoG that the Probabilitor-Inator was the most harmful thing Doof has ever done, overall.
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I'm thinking
Khan
Goofy
Moseby
Mirage
Ludivine
Malifishmertz
But we have to see what the actual mechanics are first.
I suspect we have to fill the slots this turn. And honestly, I don't want to put our newest employee on the Council. Janus Lee or Wasabi would be better - Janus because he's been a CEO, Wasabi both because he's meticulous and because he just finished restructuring our organization and knows how it works well. Also, swap out Tobe for Mirage for Intrigue on my wish list.
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I wouldn't put Mirage on the council. I'd just declare her the official second in command.
So if anything happens to doof she's in charge.
Just a council position feels like we aren't giving her enough credit.
I have no idea how we would do that. Some kind of write in? And I have no idea if it would be allowed.
But she should be the number 2.
So if anything happens to doof she's in charge.
Just a council position feels like we aren't giving her enough credit.
I have no idea how we would do that. Some kind of write in? And I have no idea if it would be allowed.
But she should be the number 2.
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And that is nowhere close to "mass deaths", and besides Doof's normal schemes are actually fairly self-contained (in that the only person harmed is usually himself), so the most harmful thing he's ever done is not a particularly high bar to clear.
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On the one hand, possibly wasted action.
On the other... mecha dinosaurs.
...I think it's worth it.
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And she got like a 90+ on the "improve intrigue" special personal that she got this turn, so that's neat
I'm like, 80% that we should go with kitsune as the councilor for occult and 20% on malf. Janna is a sweet girl, but she is A not ready to run roughly 1/6th of a megacorps directed attention, and B, more useful to us as a pseudo Magical sledgehammer/troubleshooter than sitting back and researching/chessmastering.
I mean, She canonically is
She may not literally be penciled in as "COO" or whatever, but she is explictly A the person running things behind the scene, and B, the person Doof turns to for running stuff if he needs time off (even if said time off turned out to be longer than expected). That's no reason she can't be running some of the stuff in a councilwoman position while doof is around in the big chair.
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I for one am incredibly happy we went with the Mirage turn instead.
It was a neat change of pace and was fun.
It was a neat change of pace and was fun.
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Yes I am very glad we went with it. 36 to 33, a very close vote when imo it shouldn't have been.
Torgamous
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My expectation for the Council is that they'll work like Doof but just for their fields, so putting Janna on the Council would free her up for sledgehammering and troubleshooting while passively contributing to our Occult nationals. If the Council is a net time commitment then yeah no Janna.
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I'm leaning towards Gomez myself, if his trait would still proc for a Council position. His stats aren't actually the best, but they're our highest effective (and reliable) Occult bonus, and he did just put in the work to form our Coven.
Plus, as an advisor, I feel his magitech serves as a good bridge between Doof's own science-heavy approach and the weirder aspects of Occult.
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I would guess the council position contributes to the associated area, either with their full stat or like 50% of it, they are locked out of quests and nationals while on the council, they can do personals, and we vote who is on the council each turn if we want someone on the council to do a quest or national and need to swap them out.
This may be completely wrong.
This may be completely wrong.
I had significantly exaggerated the direct affect of the inator. If one to make that argument, it would come from the results of the actions taken under the Crit-inator.
The deaths Doof is responsible for are mostly indirect. For instance, Negaduck acquiring the Dimensional Scissors with no chance for Toffee to (mundanely) find who is responsible and reclaim the scissors. Along with acquiring the stuff he needs to do what we suspect to be a mass-dipping.
Kat managed to strengthen his position. Zootopia was pushed further to complete collapse.
We still don't know what BILL CIPHER did.
A fair amount of the actions that succeeded are ones that improved the state of the world. But I wouldn't exactly say that Doof's hands are clean after that.
Doris might have lost her Occult unit. Shere Khan and Mr. Big reached out to each other. Cleaver lost track of Bonkers, otherwise he would have gotten a bare failure. Xanatos took the opportunity to smooth things over. The Federal government essentially restored itself to pre-famine power level.
And the GalFed's critical success both helped us with Kataclysm and probably will hinder us in the future.
It really isn't something to be concerned about, but it is something to keep in mind while casting moral judgements on other Kings. Something about stones from glass houses.
I don't think Kitsune is a good choice for the Occult councilor. For one, she has quests to go on and I doubt we'll get the Council's benefits for free. For another, her trait means we have to have her causing harm every other turn. For that, the best option is to have her on quests and personals.
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This sounds great for a stewardship action. DC 110 to profit with the potential of even more profit, and with the lower tier DCs we shouldn't have the consequences of a crit fail to worry about... Mostly I think it would be fun to see who they cast as Doof, Monogram, etc.
Edit: Turns out these are the DC to make the movie in-house, so we wouldn't be selling the rights but instead making the film ourselves. To be honest, I prefer this because that means we could try to repeat this, potentially, and it could be fun to reduce Doom's influence by expanding into the film industry ourselves with Balsawood Studios occasionally.
Also we could control the story more, the casting and writing, make Doof look better.
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Well, the PAs he rolled really well for (Going to a Powerline Concert and Help Roddy) were distinctly Diplo/Stew-flavored, so it does make sense to spin that into Max having previously-untapped people/admin potential.
Again, just my idea of what to do with one of our more lackluster Operatives arc-wise
Yeah, I agree that Mirage should not be a mere council Member but instead our official Majordomo/Steward (as in the guy ruling in someone else´s stead) - publically, her OFFICIAL role would be "Media Spokeswoman with extended priviliges"- because let´s face it:
She is the person transforming the utter administrative mess that is DEIs upper management into something worthy of a Kingship/globally acting Megacorp, so just admitting that and making her our Second-In-Command would be a reasonable course of action.
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My major detraction from putting Janna in the Chair is layed out in the FT for her failure on the form a coven action.
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That´s the problem, though:
Do we know if someone can fill more than one "governmental" slot for DEI?
I don´t think so, so it´s best to err on the side of caution and got with "one position per slot only"
Do you expect any kind of bonus to rolls from Mirage additional "governmental" slot? If not, then it is narrative based position and thus it should not impose any additional restrictions like not being able to become council member.
Torgamous
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What caution are you erring on the side of? We're going to find out how this works when the vote happens. In the meantime we're just speculating and making wish lists.
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So, speculation time
Incoming Interludes:
The balance of things (establish ties with magical new york): clear Wizards of Waverly place reference, kitsune's gonna cause some trouble and have some fun, not sure beyond that (it's been a while since i've seen any WoWp)
Deep into your mind(Study Doof's Mind): not sure, hopefully Russ, probably some astral plane juju maybe.
The Right Hands for the Job (Presumably council): Council Council Council Council
The Best Is Yet to Come (Quest): Evil's Endeavour, Screenslaver, maybe some hego redemption arc.
Seeds(PAs): Genetic experiments? Mirage? I dunno but the rolls are great so i'm hoping it all works out.
I'm Sorry; Please Help. (Wendy): F*ck. that's all I got, maybe Trevor breaks down to wendy about the Yokai situation to Wendy, leading to him taking a personal involvement? I can't say for certain but i'm sure its bad.
Incoming Interludes:
The balance of things (establish ties with magical new york): clear Wizards of Waverly place reference, kitsune's gonna cause some trouble and have some fun, not sure beyond that (it's been a while since i've seen any WoWp)
Deep into your mind(Study Doof's Mind): not sure, hopefully Russ, probably some astral plane juju maybe.
The Right Hands for the Job (Presumably council): Council Council Council Council
The Best Is Yet to Come (Quest): Evil's Endeavour, Screenslaver, maybe some hego redemption arc.
Seeds(PAs): Genetic experiments? Mirage? I dunno but the rolls are great so i'm hoping it all works out.
I'm Sorry; Please Help. (Wendy): F*ck. that's all I got, maybe Trevor breaks down to wendy about the Yokai situation to Wendy, leading to him taking a personal involvement? I can't say for certain but i'm sure its bad.
Oversized expectations leading to inevitable disappointment as people read the Council interlude and it not matching what they want.
In all likelihood the Council is simply a way for us to either add half of the Councilman's base stat to their relevant area's rolls or replace Doof's base stat with theirs. In which case this nonsense about Mirage would be outright sabotaging our capabilities.
Edit: Fixed wording. To clarify, the former would mean that Intrigue rolls would get a +15 (31/2) in rolls. While the latter would mean we would swap Doof's 18 Intrigue out for Mirage's 31 Intrigue.
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