And the crazy ancestor too. I'm sure he'd like to know how to make sentient golems.

Either way next turn should probably be talking with Princess Java and Sir Norm.

Between Zootopia, the many anthropomorphic toons and the fact that trans-species transformations are well within P&F's abilities, calling Cadence a 'giraffe girl' raises… questions.

"Individuals aren't naturally paid-up members of the human race, except biologically. They need to be bounced around by the Brownian motion of society, which is a mechanism by which human beings constantly remind one another that they are...well...human beings."
― Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms, 1993.

As soon as he is unfrozen Doof is taking both of these.

Not keen on selling people, whether they come from a womb, egg, gestation tube or assembly line.
Lets see.... we have the robots, the dinos, the meatlings and this turn we collected both golem theory and sentient AI.
We also have some of the best researchers.... so, when will the siege of Doofania by those who want body modifications start?

And yeah, we def need to talk with both Norm and Princes CJ. as for selling people, its easy. We will go with a "minion for hire" scheme. They are people, they get paid and if anyone messes with them, the feds are not the biggest problem they will have

You know now that I think about it, this discovery has been starring us in the face this whole time. We all love this quest because of how Disney it is but it seems we have forgotten something important about what that means. The Disney theme song is "When You Wish Upon a Star" for crying out loud! And the movie that song comes from is Pinocchio. The Second Disney Animated film ever made! I think more than being an advancement in AI this is a lesson for all us. That no matter how much of a Shadowrun vibe this world has going for it with eldritch gods,advanced tech, and urban fantasy at its core this world was birthed from Disney tropes and stories. And that means there are powerful forces out there beyond the abilities of the genocidal monsters to understand as long as we remain true to we are underneath everything else, a Good Man!
There was talk about getting star already and getting the Big Hero 6 team together again.... both sounds like they are on our way in that direction.

You know, I think we can make a mad scientist out of her yet. A better mad scientist. Not like those LOVEMUFFIN ingrates.
....Now, my mind is trying to rewrite Mulan's "Make a man out of you!" with mad scientist. With montage too!
its... kinda amusing, how it just throws stuff on the wall and see what sticks. if anyone want to write the song, please do so, im terrible at writting.
 
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ou consider the way in which Norm slowly developed over time as you kept using him, then seemed to plateau and stop growing shortly after he started to call you Father. You think back to the countless, innumerable, unending times you have refused to acknowledge Norm as a child, offspring, or person that you made.
Was there any pickup that time Venessa acknowledged him as a brother?
 
Side note that I'm posting due to some idle QM chat: sometimes we just have movies happen offscreen. Characters will just do things that lead to climactic plots in their own lives but don't really affect Doof in any way. We'll probably never show these to you, but it helps make the world feel more live when DEI stumbles onto the outcomes of them. Or into them, in the case of Twelfth Night. To be fair, we were hoping you'd get involved that time.
...We completely missed out on National Treasure, didn't we?

Anyway, our next actions, after we dethaw, should be centered around this new breakthrough. Right now, with the ice and Stewardship penalty, we don't have the stats needed to do anything serious with this. So, we'll just have to wait until Doof gets back, and knock out some of the low-hanging fruit that we still have left.

As for Star Bot-terfly, why do we have to say she's the real one? We can just treat her like Star's little sister (technically true). Not only will that smooth over any problems we may gain by her identity, it will give her increased motivation to find her "Big Sis". Also, tell me to my face Star won't appreciate more family after everything that's happened, especially a member that really gets her
 
...apparently the quest updated without me getting notified *again*...figures...

But yeah, will respond to things once I got more time, guys
 
Wendy Wower has figured out the secret behind fully sapient AI! Rather than being a programming problem, it seems like all you have to do is treat them like they're people and… 'believe in them', for lack of a better term. Weird, isn't it? You've received widespread acclaim for discovering the secret, and you're pretty sure that history will record this as the moment that strong AI was cracked. Unfortunately Wendy is an extremely honest person, so when those books are written that horrific rap number will probably end up immortalized for all time. Begrudging congratulations have come in from Bakaemono, Funtelligence, and even ENCOM. You haven't released the actual process for doing so yet, but you could choose to do so any time if you wanted even more fame.

Public Opinion has increased!

DEI is now taken seriously by most academics and industry leaders!

Wendy Wower managed to make the single greatest breakthrough in robotics possibly ever. Again. And this time you didn't even steal the credit from her! Wendy gains +15 loyalty!

Phineas and Ferb have repaired your Normbot hubs to full functionality! Your Normbots have given your Paramilitary Mongol Corps an additional +3 to all rolls against crime in Doofania!

'Do Some Introspection About Norm' action has changed!

'Spend time with Princess Java' personal action unlocked!

'Psychologically profile a target' DCs have dropped!

Your musical, barring the awkward rap number, was a huge success! You gain 2 income!

The boost to Public Opinion and Professional Clout is very nice to have (although it does annoy me a lot that we *Weren´t* taken seriously until now) - I expect the latter to net us a lot of Collab offer from other polities, especially in the digital sector.

...Yeah, we definitely can use the 2 Income right now - pretty sure that we are still a bit short on cash despite the windfall that was David buying our Room Climate tech (especially if we still plan to buy out Hoppers)

The military oomph of our turf getting buffed is definitely nothing I´ll be snubbing any time soon.

...Yup, I agree that we should have Doof take the Haste Potion and do both PAs relating to our AI kids to finally capitalize on the issue.

I´ll take the big loyalty buff to Wendy with a bow, thank you very much.

We can definitely use the lowered DC for the Psycho-profiling for our Doppleganger

As for THOSE:

You're not exactly able to mass market the things yet. It's kind of contradictory to the entire concept to produce fully sapient AIs by the thousands if you need to anthropomorphize each of them individually.

"Develop Military AI" action unlocked! "Develop Civilian AI" action unlocked! "Develop Consumer AI" action unlocked! There may be some ethical concerns inherent in the act of selling intelligent artificial life!

'Publish Your Findings' personal action unlocked!

I´ll get to them in a separate block further down for easier access

If sapient AI's are now a thing that will only become more common, it would be wise to get a head start on how they are handled by the law.
If the American government ends up making laws on the matter, DEI and Wendy may end up being consulted as the expertes who brought about this new development. This would give us a degree of influence on how the laws end up.

On a local level, we could establish a system for giving legal identities to developed AI's. Doof doesn't have the legal authority to give them citizenship (I assume), but over the path of city hall/state governments, there should be a way to give them a legal identity that lets them use many of the same services and institutions as 'normal' people. This path of action could also end up paying dividends by making our territory more attractive for independent AI's, a bit like how it worked with toons. That's on the farther edge of speculation though.

I think this means we can use our influence over state officials to grant AI the right to vote, and other rights as we see fit, at least within the states we have such influence over.

Perhaps we can take an action "Declare your territory Sapient-AI-Friendly" to do so.

Perhaps some kind of official sapience test kind of like the IRL Turing test? We could call it the "Wower Test".

Yeah, we *definitely* need to prepare a huge lobbying offensive for AI rights after cracking the secret to AI Sapience.

For this I propose "Project D. E. R. P." - *Doofenshmirtz Evil Robot Pedagogy*

My idea is that since we know how to "Uplift" AI to Sapience, we push for these True AIs to be recognized as living beings with rights akin to Toons and Anthros, because let´s be honest: I expect Doom to jump onto our discovery and (sorta rightly) claim, that we are essentially enslaving these "poor, unrepresented beings" despite knowing better similar to how he did regarding the SRAs axing. So we preempt that fucker and turn the narrative right back at him. For example, we could muse about him deliberately "dumbing down" the Cogs to make them more receptive to his control.

Next step will be us installing means to properly rear those newly-sapient beings - daycare, proper education, legal counsel...you can name it, we provide it.

Once we got both the lobbying and social support network for Sapient AIs going, we can *think about* Publishing our findings, so that the first batch of True AIs will have fond memories of us.

Easy-enough idea that will make us a dominant name in terms of AI and Social Issues in one go.

I found an idea for a new -inator.



it would likely cause a full on anime interlude but that sounds like it would be funny as hell


...Please do not compare the Doofman with that super supremacist asshole...

Star Botterfly is now within our grasp!

One step closer to creating Roboto de la Cruz!

No way!

Our counterpart to Sinatron *Needs* to be Mr. Bot-gers.

Just imagine it:

The first personality we "bring back" via AI Doppleganger and Sapience Bestowment just so happens to be *The Kindest Man who ever lived* - the sheer PR, morale and maybe income boost that will generate for us will be *insane*

Side note that I'm posting due to some idle QM chat: sometimes we just have movies happen offscreen. Characters will just do things that lead to climactic plots in their own lives but don't really affect Doof in any way. We'll probably never show these to you, but it helps make the world feel more live when DEI stumbles onto the outcomes of them. Or into them, in the case of Twelfth Night. To be fair, we were hoping you'd get involved that time.

Considering that our involvement in Twelfth Night was *Explicitly stated* to possibly have spelled the difference between a hard-fought victory and *the total annihilation/enslavement of all Mankind*, I´d say that we were right to "stumble into it"
 
The boost to Public Opinion and Professional Clout is very nice to have (although it does annoy me a lot that we *Weren´t* taken seriously until now) - I expect the latter to net us a lot of Collab offer from other polities, especially in the digital sector.

...Yeah, we definitely can use the 2 Income right now - pretty sure that we are still a bit short on cash despite the windfall that was David buying our Room Climate tech (especially if we still plan to buy out Hoppers)

The military oomph of our turf getting buffed is definitely nothing I´ll be snubbing any time soon.

...Yup, I agree that we should have Doof take the Haste Potion and do both PAs relating to our AI kids to finally capitalize on the issue.

I´ll take the big loyalty buff to Wendy with a bow, thank you very much.

We can definitely use the lowered DC for the Psycho-profiling for our Doppleganger

As for THOSE:



I´ll get to them in a separate block further down for easier access





Yeah, we *definitely* need to prepare a huge lobbying offensive for AI rights after cracking the secret to AI Sapience.

For this I propose "Project D. E. R. P." - *Doofenshmirtz Evil Robot Pedagogy*

My idea is that since we know how to "Uplift" AI to Sapience, we push for these True AIs to be recognized as living beings with rights akin to Toons and Anthros, because let´s be honest: I expect Doom to jump onto our discovery and (sorta rightly) claim, that we are essentially enslaving these "poor, unrepresented beings" despite knowing better similar to how he did regarding the SRAs axing. So we preempt that fucker and turn the narrative right back at him. For example, we could muse about him deliberately "dumbing down" the Cogs to make them more receptive to his control.

Next step will be us installing means to properly rear those newly-sapient beings - daycare, proper education, legal counsel...you can name it, we provide it.

Once we got both the lobbying and social support network for Sapient AIs going, we can *think about* Publishing our findings, so that the first batch of True AIs will have fond memories of us.

Easy-enough idea that will make us a dominant name in terms of AI and Social Issues in one go.



...Please do not compare the Doofman with that super supremacist asshole...





No way!

Our counterpart to Sinatron *Needs* to be Mr. Bot-gers.

Just imagine it:

The first personality we "bring back" via AI Doppleganger and Sapience Bestowment just so happens to be *The Kindest Man who ever lived* - the sheer PR, morale and maybe income boost that will generate for us will be *insane*



Considering that our involvement in Twelfth Night was *Explicitly stated* to possibly have spelled the difference between a hard-fought victory and *the total annihilation/enslavement of all Mankind*, I´d say that we were right to "stumble into it"
Eh, I doubt Demona would have ended mankind: Girl has a self-defeating complex to rival THANOS, I am fairly certain she would have found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. In a timeline without our intervention, she may not have won...But the magical masquerade would have fallen, and maybe she would have even killed Xanatos, either of which would cause untold chaos. It wouldn't have been game over, but it would have dramatically increased the odds of one happening later.
 
Eh, I doubt Demona would have ended mankind: Girl has a self-defeating complex to rival THANOS, I am fairly certain she would have found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. In a timeline without our intervention, she may not have won...But the magical masquerade would have fallen, and maybe she would have even killed Xanatos, either of which would cause untold chaos. It wouldn't have been game over, but it would have dramatically increased the odds of one happening later.

Maybe, but neither her tearing down the Magical Masquerade like that (if it happens, it will do so *on our terms*) nor her killing off David (who is one of our most important and powerful sorta-allies, mind you) would have been in anyones interest but hers, so I prefer how things went down here.
 
Maybe, but neither her tearing down the Magical Masquerade like that (if it happens, it will do so *on our terms*) nor her killing off David (who is one of our most important and powerful sorta-allies, mind you) would have been in anyones interest but hers, so I prefer how things went down here.
Oh, I agree. I'm just saying, I don't think the outright end of humanity was really in the cards.
 
No way!

Our counterpart to Sinatron *Needs* to be Mr. Bot-gers.

Just imagine it:

The first personality we "bring back" via AI Doppleganger and Sapience Bestowment just so happens to be *The Kindest Man who ever lived* - the sheer PR, morale and maybe income boost that will generate for us will be *insane*
I think you're overestimating the PR and morale gain somewhat. I also remain convinced that the various benefits of Mr Botgers are outweighed by the sheer "wat" that Doom would experience if we sent a Term-Inator after him.
 
The first personality we "bring back" via AI Doppleganger and Sapience Bestowment just so happens to be *The Kindest Man who ever lived* - the sheer PR, morale and maybe income boost that will generate for us will be *insane*
Doesn't really fit with DEI branding and the benefits seem exaggerated even if we rolled a nat 100 for both actions in creating the Rogers doppelganger.

I would rather a Doof, Wendy, or Star doppelganger. Elvis if we want an actual answer to Sinatron that also fits the branding better by being a more petty move.
 
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Since Sinatron sang Viva Las Vegas to prove he wasn't a recording then if we make the Elvis-bot sing a Sinatra song when we reveal him.
 
I really don't see the draw in creating a doppel of Elvis or Star. It feels like we'd just be copying the success of Sinatron, and it would suck up two actions.

And for what? Some vague words about creating a robot? We aren't even guaranteed to get a hero unit, admittingly that is a mitigating factor that makes me less annoyed about the desire to create one.
 
Man. Robo Elvis might even be an answer for Frank Sinatra's Tommy gun and Mob connections with his karate skills and possible connection to mystic martial arts in this world :p
 
If people don't know just how charismatic Elvis was, he convinced Nixon to create a new federal badge and give it to him after walking into the Oval Office and gifting Nixon a gun.
 
Considering GalFed installed a new commander we may need a diplomat/ambassador to smooth over relations if/when that masquerade breaks, or even if it doesn't but we need to make contact with them privately.

Elvisbot's time to shine.
 
I'd imagine Elvisbot would serve as a bonus to Jumba's Diplomacy. I still prefer Wendybot, since I would think that would allow her to multitask more efficiently, and her services are gonna be very in demand if we keep pursuing this tech tree.
 
I really don't see the draw in creating a doppel of Elvis or Star. It feels like we'd just be copying the success of Sinatron, and it would suck up two actions.
A robot duplicate of Star Butterfly is a significantly different move from Sinatron. First, because Star Botterfly has different skills and personality. Second, because Star isn't a celebrity. Third, because a robot duplicate of Star presents us with a lot of options for messing with Toffee.
 
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