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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

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So, anyone in favor for putting Technor on psycho-analysing Janna next turn?
 
Anyone with negative loyalty traits would be better.

Lovemuffin, Francis, Max, Hego, Probably Alan when he trusts us a bit more, and Norm when we eventually upgrade his AI.
 
... So um... It occurs to me...

Don't the Huntsclan really want the veil to fall so that people will join them in murdering "monsters"?

Maybe Demona's not the one that destroys the veil.... maybe it's our 'allies.'
 
bigking321 said:
Anyone with negative loyalty traits would be better.
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Therapy isn't a button to make people do what we want. Maybe the best thing for LOVEMUFFIN would be to find smaller workplaces where their contributions will be proportionally greater and they'll be appreciated more, because while they may be annoying to us, therapy isn't about us and feeling underappreciated is a valid human emotion. Francis and Max have legitimate grievances, and moving past them will require Doofenshmirtz talking to them like people, not sending them to therapy. Alan's loyalty malus is just about us not having the kind of work environment he prefers, which isn't a thing therapy will fix and might not even be solvable by talking to him.
 
I would argue LOVEMUFFIN definitely has issues that need therapy. Their collective inferiority-superiority complex is what caused the issues both with them accepting Heinz as their boss and with them not feeling appreciated if they aren't stuck in to their tiny niche. How well therapy would help that issue is unknown, but saying that their grievance is legitimate in this context completely ignores that them feeling unappreciated isn't the issue here.
 
mastigos said:
Speaking of whom, I've come to realize that we have a diplomatic benefit when dealing with the other Kings: the extent of our territorial ambition is well known. Doof wants the TriState Area and that's all.
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It's a detriment. All the other Kings want to be Shadowrun Dragons, owning megacorps and exercising Economic power without actually "ruling" the country, just controlling how it's ruled.

Doof treats his business like a sovereign nation. It's not that we're not on the same page, so much as we're not even reading the same book.

Since we're playing a game with totally different rules from everyone else, they're not likely to see our territorial ambitions as anything helpful to diplomacy (especially Shego, who has that other part of the Tri-State Area).
 
Oh bugger this battle is getting complicated.

I am not sure if the masquerade can survive this. Well, at least that will give us an excuse to shut down that "Volkssturm".
 
Stratagemini said:
Don't the Huntsclan really want the veil to fall so that people will join them in murdering "monsters"?
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The huntsclan being able to openly recruit will also mean it can be publicly fought and breaking the masquerade would draw a lot of attention. Government investigations into the huntsclan's criminal activities are unlikely to end well for the huntsclan. The general population are also not genocidal fanatics and will likely try to derive sustainable economic and military benefits from magical creatures instead of driving them to extinction.
 
PyrrosWarrior said:
Eh, it really would. As I said, those issues are the root cause of what is preventing us from doing anything that COULD make them respect or be more loyal to Heinz.
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Truthfully speaking I don't want to deal with Lovemuffin's issues if it means therapizing them so they let go of their pettiness and overblown sense of self-importance, because that's pretty much all the characterization they have. Letting go of that would just kind of make them... There.

From a mechanical point of view, I understand that their free action is way too valuable. From a narrative point of view, I'd rather attach them to Von Drake so she becomes their nominal leader (though they're more like lab assistants than anything), and they can actually be happy doing important mad science with Von Drake while making themselves useful.
 
Lab_Accident said:
Truthfully speaking I don't want to deal with Lovemuffin's issues if it means therapizing them so they let go of their pettiness and overblown sense of self-importance, because that's pretty much all the characterization they have. Letting go of that would just kind of make them... There.

From a mechanical point of view, I understand that their free action is way too valuable. From a narrative point of view, I'd rather attach them to Von Drake so she becomes their nominal leader (though they're more like lab assistants than anything), and they can actually be happy doing important mad science with Von Drake while making themselves useful.
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It's called character development. It would mean a lot more for them to actually grow as people. You can't keep on doing the same joke over and over before the status quo becomes annoying. It's completely shortsighted to discard potential character growth simply because they won't seem like the character from the show.

Honestly, do you really think that Made in Heaven is just going to remove their entire character if we have them visit Techor? Because that is what it looks like you are saying.
 
KA$H said:
Little does she know that gargoyles have depended on the nutrients derived from crap-to-stone contact since time immemorial, thus dooming many-a young garg to the famine
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"How could I-
How could the pigeons have done this! I declare a second war of extermination on all avians for the sins of Pigeonkind!!!!"
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ahh, the Team Rocket effect. Previously very competent villains who are excellent at everything they attempt except fighting the heroes. Good thing they were yeeted from the interdimensional Hoover Dam and fed to the ghost of Herbert Hoover.

I am worried for their prospects of surviving the huntsclan of new york now that they have participated in a major battle near them. We should take them into Doofania.

Related: Huntsclan specialize in bypassing magical security systems, but can they bypass those and THE PRIVATE MONGOL CORPS
checkmate huntsclan, should have had better cavalry
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It's incredibly cute that Star has a chain axe and Marco has a chainsaw. The amount of casual murder is pretty startling lmao. Do you think Marco realizes these are sapient beings? Or "just monsters".

this is the easiest way to shunt gargoyles (Demona's sympathizers) straight to Toffee. Like. Yikes, so many dead. Oh well.
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Huntsclan are, in canon, only able to recruit from those with the same recessive gene trait. Their training facility is in upstate New York, and they are supposedly active on a global scale. If they are globally active, that might explain how Artemis Fowl catches wind of them. They would see his bootleg fae-tech. They utilize tech, and are willing to use magic. He could trace them back to New York. Raiding their data stores would give him a wide swath of knowledge beyond the fae.

It seems to me that they are either recruiting outside of the gene trait, or are retroactively force-expressing that gene trait with science. Both options would be fairly radical, given that their organization is so ancient.

Honestly speaking, the two greatest threats to earth right now are magical beings. The huntsclan are like Judge Doom, you hate them but they're way better than Toffee or Dorito.
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speaking of . . . you know Earth might be a good recruiting world for Toffee. Duno how many other planes of monsters he has in his military, but there are plenty on Earth to draft if the Huntsclan starts displacing them into his hands. Same for Dorito, technically. Although he doesn't recruit so much as . . . do things. With or without followers.
 
Stratagemini said:
Wait what? Are they descended from ancients like in from Stargate Andromeda? Why do they need a gene to be murderous racists?
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Additionally, that would threaten them with either dying out thanks to recessive genes and getting wracked by genetic defetcs thanks to incest following attempts to keep the recessive traits alive

Not good prospects at all.
 
TheDisneyWiki said:
Each member of the Huntsclan has a dragon birthmark somewhere on their body, otherwise known as the "Mark of the Huntsclan", commonly on their right palm and arm. The Huntsman's dragon birthmark is round his chest and face on the left hand side. The mark apparently is a recessive genetic trait.
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It goes on to discuss how they steal babies who bear the mark. So...presumably it isn't linked to anything too hazardous and they're not too picky about where they pull their people from.
 
All the more reason people are thinking "let them and Demona's gargoyle maniacs kill each other a bit and then see what's left while we watch one not-nice force battle another not-nice force and eat popcorn while firing potshots and not being terribly concerned about 'friendly' fire."

In short, a convenient setup for a "Let's You and Him Fight" that has Xanatos' fingerprints all over it, so long as we can keep them at each others' throats instead of joining up.
 
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